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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Raw777 on June 18, 2015, 03:57:30 pm

Title: Raw meat or raw fish
Post by: Raw777 on June 18, 2015, 03:57:30 pm: Hi all,

Ive been eating raw meat for a couple of weeks now and even though I havent had problems yet theres always that little voice in the back of my head saying I should watch out for e.coli. I would like to know if its possible for me to switch to raw fish and ask u guys if I wouldnt be missing out on anything by doing this. Ive seen the Wai Diet promote raw fish and they are not eating raw meat, so maybe thats the way I should go.

Im very interested in your opinions!
Title: Re: Raw meat or raw fish
Post by: TylerDurden on June 18, 2015, 03:59:47 pm: It all depends. Some of us thrive on diets consisting mostly of raw wildcaught seafood. I find that 20-40% of my ideal diet should be raw wildcaught seafood, yet when I tried to increase the percentage to 60%-80%+ of my diet, it did not work for me at all.
Title: Re: Raw meat or raw fish
Post by: eveheart on June 18, 2015, 09:30:43 pm: From what I've learned, e. coli in meat is only minimally a problem in grassfed meat. The scary e. coli is the kind that is antibiotic resistant, and that comes from grainfed ruminant animals.

Consider: we all have e. coli in our own intestines. Sometimes our own e. coli can infect us due to bad hygiene, such as wiping feces forward towards the short female urethra can cause an e. coli bladder infection. So, I conclude that good hygiene with our food and our bodies is what's needed, not avoidance of properly prepared food.
Title: Re: Raw meat or raw fish
Post by: political atheist on June 22, 2015, 11:33:31 pm: natural e.coli helps to digest protein
Title: Re: Raw meat or raw fish
Post by: kalo on June 23, 2015, 03:46:23 am: I never knew that about e coli, thanks
Title: Re: Raw meat or raw fish
Post by: RogueFarmer on June 23, 2015, 06:02:30 pm: The other bad part about grain fed ecoli comes from the much higher stomach ph of a grain fed cow. The ecoli adapt to a higher acid tolerance and are thus able to survive our stomach.
Title: Re: Raw meat or raw fish
Post by: TylerDurden on June 23, 2015, 07:12:38 pm: Quote from: RogueFarmer on June 23, 2015, 06:02:30 pm
The other bad part about grain fed ecoli comes from the much higher stomach ph of a grain fed cow. The ecoli adapt to a higher acid tolerance and are thus able to survive our stomach.
Hmm, strictly speaking, you presumably mean " a much lower PH value", as acid has a low PH value from 0 to 7, and alkali a much higher PH value from 7 to 12.
Title: Re: Raw meat or raw fish
Post by: RogueFarmer on June 23, 2015, 09:27:45 pm: right I was thinking higher acid, lower ph.
Title: Re: Raw meat or raw fish
Post by: Iguana on June 25, 2015, 12:23:55 am: Raw meat or raw fish: both, of course! Plus raw shellfish, raw eggs, raw veggies, raw nuts, raw olives, raw fruits, raw honey, etc!