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This summer my family is planning on going to thailand for a few weeks. i will be done with college and will probably stay for longer and possibly work on a farm (WWOOF) or just bum around. anyways, i want to use this thread to get ideas on how to stay mostly raw paleo on my travels. Also, as noted in the vaccine thread, i am interested in any input on which vaccines are recommended and safe. Hopefully i will also be able to go to nearby countries such as cambodia and vietnam. Also, i'm very interested in visiting the phillipines and would love to meet up with goodsamaritin. anywho, i'll keep this updated as i figure out more about my upcoming trip
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Sweet!
I don't know anyone who gets vaccines for Thailand or even Bali. I remember people used to get the malaria tablets but they don't even work.
So when you heading? I've been thinking of heading up to SE asia.
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interesting andrew. and those people didnt get sick im assuming ;). we're thinking we will be going late next summer (july or august). no definite plans yet though
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If I were you, I wouldn't take any vaccines whatsoever.
Re malaria - Hindu people who drank water from Ganges didn't get sick; they didn't need any harmful vaccines
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If I were you, I wouldn't take any vaccines whatsoever.
Re malaria - Hindu people who drank water from Ganges didn't get sick; they didn't need any harmful vaccines
yeah but the thing is, i have no previous exposure to these tropical diseases like those hindus did.
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yeah but the thing is, i have no previous exposure to these tropical diseases like those hindus did.
Are you accustomed to thiomersal that is present in vaccines? I don't think so
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You are just going to Thailand for a few weeks.
Probably in civilized places.
I don't see why you need vaccinations.
My wife and I spent a 1 month vacation in Thailand and we weren't recommended any vaccinations, and this was during my non-health aware stage in life.
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Are you accustomed to thiomersal that is present in vaccines? I don't think so
exactly! so there's my dilemma: is it worse to get the shit that's in vaccines or potentially get sick from diseases i have no immunity to?
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You are just going to Thailand for a few weeks.
Probably in civilized places.
I don't see why you need vaccinations.
My wife and I spent a 1 month vacation in Thailand and we weren't recommended any vaccinations, and this was during my non-health aware stage in life.
well that's the thing. im going with my family to civilized places for a few weeks, but once they leave me behind, im looking at working on farms and venturing to more distant places. not sure how long im staying
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well that's the thing. im going with my family to civilized places for a few weeks, but once they leave me behind, im looking at working on farms and venturing to more distant places. not sure how long im staying
Maybe you need a Thai resident health expert and ask what diseases are in their provinces, what are in the Thai distant places.
For example, my wife works with Shell Philippines Exploration and she steers a foundation in the remote province of Palawan. The corporation and the foundation have an anti-malaria project. In the regular civilized places, there is the common malaria disease brought by mosquitos, that with detection can be treated by their existing drugs easily. But they say if you are venturing deep into the forest to reach the remote tribes, the cerebral malaria strain there is different and instantly lethal... as a Manila based reporting team headed by Reyster Langit found out much later on whether they were uninformed or they disregarded the warnings. (they all died).
I remember many years ago I was working with our french equipment supplier and one of the french technicians who ventured into ivory coast in africa got hit by elephantiasis (?), strange ivory coast disease so they needed help from ivory coast experts who knew exactly what it was and what to do. He survived.
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alright guys, my dad just got approved to take of from work for 2 months! it looks like we're going to thailand at the end of may. he's going back at the end of july, but im not sure what im gonna do. i might stay there for longer depending on how i like it. we're also probably going to go to the philippines, cambodia, and maybe malaysia or vietnam.
anyways, im excited! but, i need to figure out what im gonna do for food over there. i will most likely be eating more fruit than i am now but i need meat and fat, period. im hoping the meat and fat is of fairly high quality at the markets. also, i'll be eating more seafood and i've heard a lot of the markets sell insects (ant larvae sounds delicious!). so, if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. i know aajonus goes to thailand a lot. anyone know what/where he eats?
also, still trying to decide whether to get vaccines or not... help appreicated
thanks guys
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Don't get vaccinated.
I spent 3 months in thailand and came back 2 months ago. I hardly got any insect bites and I never even saw bugs there.
Also with the meat it's not going to be a problem. Just don't be afraid, thailand isn't dirty at all.
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thanks for the reassurance on the vaccinations.
also, that's great to hear that meat shouldn't be a problem! so what all did you eat while you were there? i'd be really interested to hear how you went about getting food (were you raw paleo then?). im assuming you can also get fat where the sell meat? seriously though, tell me more if you have time
also, what did you do while you were there? was it mostly sightseeing or what? what cities/areas did you like best? sorry for all the questions but im really curious
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I'm in Manila, Philippines.
I"ll see to it you get fed and I can be your tour guide.
We have nature spots, beaches, mountains and historical sites.
If you have ladies with you, they like shopping.
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My mum eats raw meat and just got back from Vietnam, she said there's heaps of markets selling raw meat and fish. The place is one big market and it's all very cheap. My folks didn't get vaccinated. Oh yeah they went to Cambodia too.
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yon, i have no advice re vaccines, but so exciting that you seem to always be up to some new adventure!
My mum eats raw meat...
i think that's amazing!, my mom is so far from that place. i'm afraid for her visits now that my fridge is a meat locker :)
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I'm in Manila, Philippines.
I"ll see to it you get fed and I can be your tour guide.
We have nature spots, beaches, mountains and historical sites.
If you have ladies with you, they like shopping.
awesome! i'll definitely be contacting you if/when we get to the philippines. can't wait! i can just see us both gorging on horse meat while my dad stares, ha. but he's pretty open, so im sure he'll try it.
wodgina: that's reassuring, thanks. also, didn't you mention you're maybe going to thailand this summer (winter for you)?
ioanna: thanks, im excited too!
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If you have ladies with you, they like shopping.
They always do l)
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Don't get vaccinated.
Vaccines are dangerous and of dubious value, do not get vaccinated under any circumstances.
I spent 3 months in thailand and came back 2 months ago. I hardly got any insect bites and I never even saw bugs there.
You don't need anti-malarials either (quite toxic by themselves), but less toxic is to rub 30% DEET over your entire skin surface except eyes of course, every 8 hours. AND that is ONLY if you're heading to the Burmese border in north Thailand, the interior of Cambodia, or Palawan in the Philippines (already posted). Compared to 50 years ago there is very little problem in the region, thanks to deforestation :'(. Which concurs with everyone else, though I know you just needed to hear it from someone who has stayed in Asia 20 years.
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awesome! i'll definitely be contacting you if/when we get to the philippines. can't wait! i can just see us both gorging on horse meat while my dad stares, ha. but he's pretty open, so im sure he'll try it.
wodgina: that's reassuring, thanks. also, didn't you mention you're maybe going to thailand this summer (winter for you)?
ioanna: thanks, im excited too!
I've been planning to go the Indo(nesia) for a while!
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thanks for sharing your experience rawzilla.
wodgina: there is a slight possibility i will also be going to indonesia
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update: we finalized our trip. we're flying to bangkok on may 30th and flying back july 31st, but i may pay the fine to cancel my flight back if i so choose ;)
also, i was wondering if anyone had any good tips on avoiding mosquitoes. i would prefer not to put DEET all over me. im sure there are some natural insect repellants that work well such as various herbs or the consumption of specific foods. any advice welcome.
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how exciting!! will you have computer/internet access?
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also, i was wondering if anyone had any good tips on avoiding mosquitoes. i would prefer not to put DEET all over me. im sure there are some natural insect repellants that work well such as various herbs or the consumption of specific foods. any advice welcome.
A quick Google search brought up Thai Lemon Grass (http://www.journeytoforever.org/edu_homer.html). :)
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well im not bringing a computer because i'll be living out of one small backpack. but, im sure i'll be able to go to an internet cafe every once in a while. also, if we stay at a hotel, they usually have a computer for internet usage. i'll try and make quick updates when i can i guess.
can't believe it's only two months away!
oh yeah, so here's the tentative route we will be taking (i must reiterate, it's completely tentative. we have no real plans):
start in bangkok, go to ko samet (southeast coast), then to angkor wat (cambodia), then maybe to vietnam briefly, then to chiang mai/chiang rai (northern thailand), then back to bangkok so we can fly to philippines for a few weeks, fly back to bangkok, meet up with my brother and mom in ko samui (southern thailand). pretty general idea of what we might do...
my cousin who is going with us is planning on staying at a muy thai training camp for a few weeks in chaing mai which i think is pretty awesome. he's really in to MMA and kickboxing right now so should be an amazing, if humbling, experience for him. but i don't think im gonna join him, ha. i'd rather go to the philippines
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We have an organic insect repellant called citronella.
It's used in our kids' school.
If you stay in a hotel or a house with screens, usually there will be no mosquitoes.
In the outdoors, you may need a mosquito net to sleep under.
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but i don't think im gonna join him, ha. i'd rather go to the philippines
Yeah you can train Escrima there haha
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@goodsamariatan
I wanna go to Taiwan next year, any tips?
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Haven't been to Taiwan yet.
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a farm I lived at outside once had citronella growing to like 4 ft all around, and this worked fairly well to keep the massive swarms of mosquitoes many feet beyond these plantings. I suppose the extract works better than when I tried to wrap a bunch of stalks around my arms and neck, but its probably hard to find one without additives, I just found one citronella spray online that said 1% citronella!
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We have organic citronella here without the additives because the entire school orders it from this 1 herbalist who makes it.
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alright guys, i really need your help. i just had a major argument with my dad about how i don't want to get vaccines before going to thailand. he said he wants me to get the hepatitis and tetanus shots and possibly the malaria pills on the recommendation of some travel agent doctor. i made my arguments but he wanted hard evidence that vaccines are not only ineffective but also possibly harmful. i need some actual studies or statistics i can show him. i know some of you know where to find them and id really appreciate the help. thanks
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I wish I had the info to the good sources, I thought the best place to check would be raw vegan boards
http://www.rawfoodsupport.com/read.php?11,140498,140532#msg-140532
http://www.rawfoodsupport.com/read.php?11,103060,109408#msg-109408
quotes alot of random things and there isn't the hardcore reference that you probably need without looking up some of the individuals that are name dropped.
heres a few other links that I noticed on that site and others but just have glanced at myself.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0963037307/proveparentsrequ
http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/ingredie.html
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness.html
hope this is a start.
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... i really need your help. i just had a major argument with my dad about how i don't want to get vaccines ... hard evidence that vaccines are not only ineffective but also possibly harmful. i need some actual studies or statistics i can show him. i know some of you know where to find them and id really appreciate the help.
http://douglassreport.com/reports/vaccines/?gclid=COHj0t754aACFRednAodazynCw (http://douglassreport.com/reports/vaccines/?gclid=COHj0t754aACFRednAodazynCw)
http://www.vaclib.org/ (http://www.vaclib.org/)
http://www.consumercide.com/js/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=404:dr-andrew-moulden-radio-interview-transcript&catid=44:vaccination-general&Itemid=57 (http://www.consumercide.com/js/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=404:dr-andrew-moulden-radio-interview-transcript&catid=44:vaccination-general&Itemid=57)
Joyce Riley Interviews Dr. Andrew Moulden - The Power Hour (8 a.m., - 11 a.m, EST – M-F)
Joyce Riley, Dave Von Kleist, Dr. Andrew Moulden & various callers
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Tuesday, October 7, 2008
[Joyce] Our guest, today, is Dr. Andrew Moulden. This gentleman is very complex in his interest and in his knowledge and I am so glad he’s joining us today because he is so passionate about what he believes in that he is running for a member of parliament in Ontario. So those of you in North Bay, Ontario are going to be very fortunate and I’d like for you if you know someone, those of you that are listening on international shortwave, your Canadian listeners, please give a call to anyone in that area so that they will vote—well, first of all, listen to Dr. Andrew Moulden and vote for him. He is in the Canadian Action Party. By the way, that was formed by Dr. Paul Hellier, I believe back in 1997 and he joins us today. He is an M.D. and a PhD. His CB, his curriculum…is so long there is no way that I could possibly tell you about this because he is extremely well educated. He comes by reference of Dr. Sheri Tenpenny who said, ‘you have got to have Dr. Moulden on your program. He started out with a B.S. in biology and ended up in a PhD in neurobiology and an M.D. degree. He is president and CEO of a medical device corporation and I want to say thank you very much, Dr. Andrew Moulden for joining us on the Power Hour, today.
[Dr. Moulden] Thank you very much for having me on your show. It’s a pleasure to be here.
[Joyce] Well, it’s a pleasure to have you doing what you’re doing out there on the subject of vaccines because—now, you come from a most educated perspective. You have been scientifically educated. You’ve been educated in the belly of the beast, if you will, in allopathic medicine and yet you’re taking a particular stand on vaccines. Now, where did this epiphany come in your life, sir?
[Dr. Moulden] Well, when you spend 21 years being indoctrinated into the Western medical model unfortunately you can over-learn yourself and sort of kick yourself outside the box and then you look back and see everything that you’re doing wrong but with doing a biological psychology bachelors, a master’s degree in child development and language development children then on to a PhD in clinical neuropsychology, seeing patients and then doing a thesis in functional brain imaging and a comprehensive exam in acquired brain injuries and then medical school, then going into residency in psychiatry and neuropsychiatry you get to the point where you can almost start seeing how the brain and behavior works beyond simply using the technological tools that we have. So in 2001 shortly after coming out of medical school and this is after all these years of book learning and being a national scholar, a provincial scholar, twenty-seven scholarships for academic and research excellence, being trained by a neurologist, neuropsychologist, the best of the best, and really it was just an academic pursuit. I don’t know how I got stuck into it but they were paying me to do it—why stop? It’s kind of like a job learning—and I love learning—and particularly for some reason the brain really caught my fancy.
But in 2001 fresh out of medical school about six months out I all of a sudden began seeing patients for the first time with all this book learning knowledge, and having assessed patients pretty much from kindergarten up to grade thirteen, and then immediately within probably about two weeks into a rotation—I started seeing patients and realizing (not only with the autistic patients and schizophrenia for that matter) that all of a sudden I could see based on my eclectic training with the various neuro-diagnostic tools that I had acquired. Now, most Western-trained physicians won’t have my background training because before I got to medical school I had ten years of straight brain studies from every perspective we could possibly look at the darned thing. So as soon as I saw immediately on the patients right before my eyes, that I could see with the tweaks I could do to the standard neurological exams that physicians do—but all of a sudden there it was right before me—brain injury—in real time and retrospectively that I could, now, see: and I just didn’t know how it was happening. So 2001 was the epiphany—and (with) the damage I was seeing (it) was very clear to me that the only way (they're kind of like rules of law we have in neuro-development and when you understand how the brain is structured and wired and its blood supply is wired relative to function there are certain rules of law kind of like gravity) that you can only create a specific behavioral pattern that you see clinically by only doing a certain means of damage to the brain.
It was very clear to me in 2001 that we were dealing with micro-vascular strokes—the only way we could create the behavioral pattern I was seeing in some of the autistic children, as well as the neurological features I was seeing on their neurological exam (and their face, for that matter) was of micro-vascular stroke damage.
[Joyce] Ok, let me stop you right there because micro-vascular stroke doesn’t mean a lot to some people and they would like to know what that means, because you were saying that a lot of the autism (and I think you were also going to then correlate this to other diseases or other problems, secondary to vaccine injections) is due to the end result which is a micro-vascular stroke. Explain that in as simplistic terms as you can, please.
[Dr. Moulden] Excellent. The bottom line is that infectious diseases or for that matter the vaccines that we give everybody, from the Gulf War vets to mandatory vaccines in children, and now, unfortunately, Gardasil: all these foreign substances that we place under the skin, when you have a rash, swelling, pain at the site of injection, then we see these are normal things to experience and everybody experiences it. Well, the reason why you’re having pain at the injection site is because the foreign substances (that) are stuck into your skin create an immune reaction which is non-specific to the bug, just a general response. The white blood cells which respond to anything foreign in your body, when they come flying into the area, they block off the small blood vessels, and there’s a lack of oxygen to the tissue in the area and that causes pain at the injection site. The sad part is that for certain individuals, for specific reasons (several of which we now know) this same process systemically happens throughout the body, and many of the small blood vessels in the body are too small to allow the white blood cells to go down: and when they’re stimulated the wrong way or hyper-stimulated, these white blood cells block off these small blood vessels, and those small blood vessels can’t get oxygen down there in any tissues past there: (the area) ends up having a stroke. And the stroke is basically lack of oxygen to tissues much like you have a heart attack, you can have a brain attack, you can have a liver attack, you can have a kidney attack when there’s not oxygen being delivered to the area, that’s a stroke.
[Joyce] So these micro-vascular strokes then, are the common denominator with Gulf War Illness. I think you said earlier or you said last night to me about polio, and any of the other vaccines, it’s a micro-vascular stroke that appears to be the problematic area?
[Dr. Moulden] It is a very profound discovery. Now, having….back in 2001 and getting to where we are today, it would have made no sense back in 2001, especially since my colleagues around the world including Dr. Andrew Wakefield were being decimated by the public health departments and medical councils. So I was speaking with Bernard Rimland back in about 2002 and informed him what I had, and he was quite excited. But I asked him not to speak publicly about it until I actually had the whole thing locked down. So, now, we’ve invented a new imaging technology so we can actually do our imaging for neurological damage, catch these strokes on doing a fancy neurological exam on nothing more than photographs and video: so a thirty second video of an individual before and after vaccine--we now find and this is probably the most profound thing that’s ever been reported in the history of medicine since the dawn of medicine, considering this huge massive global silent epidemic we’ve created with these one-size-fits-all vaccinations, is that we have now found that, irrespective of the bug: whether it is Anthrax, whether it’s measles, mumps, rubella, it doesn’t matter; diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis or gardasil and, for that matter, before the vaccines came on line, whether a person had polio or had congenital rubella syndrome which is German measles or, for that matter, they died of measles or small pox: we now find with our enhanced video imaging that we’ve kind of invented a means to put the Hubble space telescope to the standard neurological exam looking at facial features. We now show the exact same neurological deficits that are hard neurological problems that can be only caused in the human brain by micro-vascular small blood vessel blockages of oxygen delivery, and we’re recording these within hours and days after vaccination in all these individuals who are now diagnosed with Gulf War syndrome. Some of the girls who had the gardasil vaccines who had adverse reactions--we pick it up there as well. We find the same thing in children who are losing their breathing and before they go into sudden infant death. We find the same thing in children within hours after a vaccination. We can tell which children are going to go on to develop autism, and the sad part is that even children with specific learning disabilities, attention deficit disorder, are in the same category…
[Joyce] Let me again stop you and I do apologize for this but just so that people can understand. How does a stroke differ from a micro-vascular stroke?
[Dr. Moulden] Well, they don’t differ at all, actually, so a stroke by definition, like a heart attack is a stroke. A stroke by definition is a lack of oxygen delivery to an area tissue. In essence the demand from the tissue exceeds the supply. In the case of a heart attack the blood vessels to the heart are a bit blocked by hardening of the arteries so when the heart’s working very fast it can’t get enough oxygen per unit of time and we call it stroke. In the brain when you have a clot going up there to one of the large pipes, one of the large blood vessels in the brain, it creates a stroke and you’d be paralyzed or lose your language…
[Joyce] We got a four-minute break; we’re going to be right back with Dr. Andrew Moulden. You don’t want to miss this. Where is this going; I’ll tell you what, he’s linking it all together. Back in four.
{break} Dave’s Song: …bureaucrats, all have their schemes and can’t see past their moneyed dreams and want-to-be’s do legislate laws that force your kids to vaccinate….
[Dave] Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Tuesday edition of the Power Hour. Take that big vaccine and stick it in your own butt. This is Dave…
[Joyce] And Joyce and thank you for joining us on the Power Hour today. Our guest, today, is Dr. Andrew Moulden and he is an expert in psychiatry, neuro-psychiatry, a specialization in behavioral neurology. He has a CV or a resume that is incredibly long and he is very well educated in the areas in which he speaks and that’s why we have him here today. And they are going to be doing a seminar coming up December first. Dr. Sherri Tenpenny will be a speaker there. He will be there and I hope that you can attend. If you’re in Canada go to www.justgetusin.com, that’s the website. The campaign manager and all of us want you to vote for Dr. Andrew Moulden. He is running for a member of parliament. www.justgetusin.com is the website, you can see all about it. He is fighting that horrific C51, he is wanting to educate the people about the truth about vaccines which he’s doing here today with us, and we’re going to get back to that subject and also the subject of autism and Gulf War illness: he’s very well educated in those areas also. Dr. Andrew Moulden joins us from Canada, today, and again, www.justgetusin.com is the website. Go to today’s guest, click on it, it’ll take you right there. How about that, a song about vaccines for you there, Dr. Moulden.
[Dr. Moulden] Lovely.
[Joyce] Yes, we need to educate the people, don’t we, because this is a killer.
[Dr. Moulden] This is a global phenomenon; it’s the most heinous act mankind has ever done to mankind in the history of history and we’ve done it for profit. Sadly, our ideas were wrong from the very get-go with all these vaccinations going back in the time of Edward Jenner, and here is the big mistake that physicians and science has made, that the last two hundred years has just been profiting no one but the 'pharmicide' interests around the world, who’ve profited off of antibiotics and vaccines. The very simple problem we missed, here, is that everybody—no one knew how small pox killed or how measles killed or how polio caused paralysis or how tetanus caused the jaw to lock up and, for that matter, how anthrax and all these other bugs killed. You can ask any physician or even scientists and they don’t know. But we assumed with imperfect knowledge that if we inject a weakened or attenuated or a killed version of this bug into the body that the body will create antibodies: that those antibodies will be around if the individual ever sees that again the antibodies will coat it and the body will kill it right away. So this has worked to a certain extent to take away the classic features of measles and rubella, German measles and polio and diphtheria and tetanus and whooping cough and anthrax to a certain extent, but what we did not realize is that these bugs had a two-pronged approach. One was damage to the body coming from the detrimental effects of the bug, itself, but the second part, the generic non-specific part, was our own body’s own non-specific immune response which are white blood cells—which is the same cells that when you get a zit on your face and you squeeze it for those teenagers who still have this problem—the white pus that comes out is white blood cells. These guys respond to everything: and whether it’s a splinter in your finger, or a foreign substance in your body, or adjuvants that are placed in the vaccines, these white blood cells when hyper-stimulated are doing something we’ve now learned in microbiology that we never knew before, and in essence they are clogging up all the small blood vessels in many parts of the body. And unfortunately, because the brain and the small, small blood vessels can only go four minutes without oxygen, as soon as these areas get blocked off either immediately after vaccines (and unfortunately this can be delayed by several weeks to several months) then the areas of the brain that are being choked off, it’s kind of like strangling yourself but at the very, very small blood vessel level. An analogy to a river tributary system: you’re strangling off the areas that are at the very end, smallest little trickling streams coming off the main river, and those areas are being impaired, which is causing all the neurological features we now can scan for with our new brain guard technologies. So it’s sad and it’s there for everybody, and always was, always will be, and we made a huge mistake.
[Joyce] We’re talking about vaccines, blending, perhaps, Alzheimer’s, Gulf War illness along with autism, how sad it is, and even polio. We’re going to be right back after this three-minute break. Stay tuned to the Power Hour with Dr. Andrew Moulden. We’ll take your phone calls, 800-259-9231. Back in three; stay tuned with Joyce and Dave.
{break] Dave’s song: Well, the programs were started taking drugs out of the school, but the pharma manufacturers are exempt from any rules. They’re raking in the dollars and making billions every year. They only want your money, they don’t care about your tears. Almost every single killing that you’re hearing on the news has a psycho-drug connection but they’re keeping that from you. Let’s bring them down, yeah, let’s bring them down. We’ll screw them right in the ground, yeah, let’s bring them down. Hey, Eli Lilly, GC Searle, Bristol Myers and Bayer too, Glaxo, Smith and Kline, Squibb and Pfizer, sucking money out of you. Let’s bring them down…
[Dave] Scum sucking leaches is what they are, folks, they don’t want you to be healthy and no, no, no. There’s no profit in your being well. Wellness really sucks to them. Welcome back to The Power Hour, Tuesday edition; this is Dave…
[Joyce] Joyce and I think this is probably where I should give my disclaimer that the opinions that Dave and I express are not necessarily those of Andrew Moulden. No, he is just trying to help us understand the problem with the vascular strokes, not with the pharmaceutical companies. That’s not his enemy, that’s not his concern. So, I just want to give that disclaimer there.
Our guest, today, is Dr. Andrew Moulden and he is wanting to look at the problems of vaccines. He’s wanting to look at what is that one thing that they all have in common. Now, when I talked with you last night you mentioned that you had seen the movie, Beyond Treason, so you’re aware of the Gulf War Illness issues, obviously; I mean, you don’t have to see Beyond Treason to be aware of that but you blend that with Alzheimer’s also with autism, with polio. Now, what is the common denominator here and what do they all have as possible causation, sir?
[Dr. Moulden] They’re all having strokes, it’s quite simple, actually. It’s pretty humbling to be able to see it and image it now. The basic common mechanism is this. Anything foreign in your body that your body cannot immediately get rid of whether it is aluminum, whether it is mercury, whether it is a foreign protein sequence from an infectious disease, once it’s in your body and it’s in places that your body cannot get rid of it chronically stimulates your immune system, non-specifically, to come into that area and try and get rid of it. Unfortunately, over time your body loses tolerance to that particular stimulus and the white blood cells, the immune cells that are basically scavengers that will clean up garbage start, unfortunately, walling the areas off and they’re causing collapse of the small blood vessels to these areas where these foreign things are. This also will create Parkinson’s disease and unfortunately, when it does that you’re slowly strangulating out the tissue in that area, and it starts to go away because it’s basically losing oxygen and not getting the nutrients it needs to survive. So in the brain we can call that a whole range of symptoms and signs. Alzheimer’s would be an end result which is unfortunately a reality, that even in the Alzheimer’s patients we find that at the core of the plaques and tangles by which we diagnose these illnesses with we find aluminum. Well, it’s just perhaps coincidental that aluminum’s in all these vaccines that everyone’s getting but the most powerful thing that we have, and this is where we have proof of causation, and this is now in the United States Federal Circuit Courts challenging Public Health Law 66990, the National Childhood Vaccination Injury Act; it’s within about four weeks ago the neuro-diagnostic imaging we’ve created, and it’s available giving explanation and even tissue slides for all this stuff I’m talking about, which is on our www.brainguardmd.com website. There’ll be another video up there explaining it all very simplistically for everybody…
[Joyce] Ok, that’s www.brainguardmd.com ?
[Dr. Moulden] We actually have 600,000 ads going out throughout Northeastern United States. Today, basically we’re just coming on-line, now, to give it to the world and this is the end. We’re going to go sue these guys to the hilt and take everything back from these individuals to a certain extent, Joyce. The sad reality, I’ve been to the CDC in Richmond, California and just outside of San Francisco because they had a young boy there who died within days after receiving DTP, MMR, and I even went to the Orange County coroner’s office and they let me have access to the tissue and we look at it our way and he looked at the child under imaging and said, ‘wait a minute, here, you guys have no cause of death. ‘We have cause of death.’ And I even called up Dr. Carol Bleser who is the expert pediatrician and an infectious disease expert at the California Encephalitis Project which is a division of public health and CDC and we called her up and told her we have this and we understand she had over a hundred other dead babies from across the state there with no cause of death. And we told her, ‘we’ve got it all solved.’ So we went up there, Joyce, and this is the sad reality. She called me up the night before; she was in Los Angeles on her cell phone all excited. She said, ‘Andrew, we have people in here from the CDC, Atlanta, from Germany, a neuro-pathology team and we haven’t been able to figure out what’s going on for the last year. I said, ‘well, don’t worry, we’ve solved it and we’re going to come up there and give it to you freely.’ So we got a flight up there the next day and arrived there at three o’clock. Now, we expected to be treated like royal kings because here we are, I arrived with a microbiologist, we have a solution for a worldwide problem that’s decimating the children across California and we expected to be treated like kings. Well, we didn’t expect that, we were just looking forward to provide our information and science freely for them. Well, the security guard—the place was like Fort Knox, razor wire around the whole complex—and the security post guy said, ‘wait a minute, they’re coming down for you.’ So, down came a security hands on gun said, ‘Dr. Moulden, we have a facility-wide orange alert, you’re not allowed anywhere on the property, back up your vehicle immediately.
[Joyce] Whoa!
[Dr. Moulden] We were flabbergasted. We recorded it all and we have even Dr. Glaser’s recorded voice mails to us, as well. So, we said, ‘well, we have an appointment.’ So they said, ‘you got five seconds to back up your vehicle’ and their hand went on the guns. We backed up and they never called us back. But you have to understand…
[Joyce] Wait, wait, wait, this was at the CDC in San Francisco?
[Dr. Moulden] This is in Richmond, California. It’s the regional encephalitis project that any person who dies when undiagnosed neurological problem across the state, all tissue gets sent to these things. Now, this is across every state in your country because they want to make sure that there’s not some silent epidemic going out there. But we even had the family call them up and ask them and the family asked—I had them ask specifically why did you guys do this crazy Cadillac version of tissue samples and analysis on this child who died, for everything from Western Equine Virus to Japanese Encephalitis Virus to things that this child was not exposed to unless he was in Africa: but he didn’t test for DTP, MMR, the things he got within hours of becoming ill and stopping breathing and dying and they said, ‘we don’t have funding for that.’
[Joyce] Oh, my goodness. I’ll tell you what, hold on one second because I want everybody to understand the impact of what you just said. Now, this is a man, valedictorian, magna cum laude, the top of every class that he was in, practically, and an MD, a PhD; he’s got the answer to what’s going on with the vaccine issues and these SIDS deaths and he is told that there is an orange alert, he is not allowed anywhere near the place and he’s to back up his car and get out of there. Now, that’s what you get when you get too close to the answer. Dr. Jones, in North Carolina, let’s go to Dr. Jones in North Carolina; welcome to the Power Hour, you’re on with Dr. Moulden—go ahead, please.
[Dr. Jones] Oh, thank you, Joyce; I just wanted to add a few quick comments about what happened here locally. I saw a TV news program saying that about 1200 kids were not going to be allowed to go to school as sixth graders because their parents had not got them vaccinated for diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus. I immediately called up the local health person at the school district and I said, first of all, people can be exempt, they can declare a religious exemption, and then started to explain it, I said, ‘what about the risks of these vaccines; it looks like the pertussis rates have gone up, it looks like people get seizures, the odds of dying are not even claimed to be 1 in 20,000. The odds of a major seizure by the manufacturers of this vaccine say it’s 1 in 10,000 and I guess…responsible, ‘are you a doctor; are you a physician?’ I say, ‘no, but I know how to read; I know basic statistics; I know how to multiply and divide.’
[Joyce] Yes, let me go to our guest, right now, Dr. Moulden, I mean here you have a college professor who’s seen through all of this and they won’t even listen to him.
[Dr. Moulden] Yeah, well, the bottom line is now that I can see it, now I can measure it. With my technology, actually, on www.brainguardmd.com it can actually do before and after vaccination for any child and I can show immediately the damage that is happening, but the exciting thing is now that we know what’s going on in the physiology down to the microbiological level, I can stop it in real time when I diagnose the problem. I’ve labeled it the mass response and it’s kind of a bit of arrogance but ‘m’ stands for Moulden, ‘a’ is anoxia, which is lack of oxygen, spectra syndrome; It’s across the board. And seizures come from the brain when there is lack of oxygen to the brain in various areas. With the scar area that’s formed you have these problems, even adults who have strokes who go on to develop seizure disorders, 1 in 4 across this planet is being adversely affected. The number is probably higher; it can be silent to death. And the reason that they stop breathing and they die is because the small blood vessels going to the brain stem, the areas that control automatic respiration, breathe in, breathe out, especially in the first two years of life, when they are being clogged off the central drive for respiration becomes blocked and the person dies in their sleep. These infants are 18 months, sleeping 18 hours a day, and more profoundly than that—and this irritates and angers me the most—is that we have parents across the United States and Canada who are in jail accused of shaking baby syndrome when we can now show, we now know, that part of the pathology after response to these vaccines by blocking off these small blood vessels you get bleeding in the back of the eyes; we call it retinal hemorrhages and you can sometimes have bleeding into the brain and we call that within brain hemorrhages. Now, doctors in medical departments across the world take those signs as the specific sign that a parent has shaken his child. It is not true. My colleague, Dr. Mohamed Al Bayati, a double major, University of California, Davis, double-majored in microbiology, toxicology, pathology, he’s overturned over 30, 40 cases in courts where people are being accused of harming children, when we can now show through differential diagnostic means that actually it was a vaccine, a pharmaceutical product that caused this (or a doctor’s effort) but we have taken this one step further; we’ve taken it out of the scientific realm and we now can show, everyone can see for themselves with their own eyes with the brain guard md imaging that here you go, this stuff is causing damage for everybody from attention deficit disorder to learning disabilities to sudden infant death to autism to Gulf War syndrome to death after gardasil; it is a generic response. The whole vaccine industry is awash because it’s not doing what it’s supposed to do. We’ve just changed serious plagues into silent chronic epidemics and any parent in any community who’s being forced against their will to take these vaccinations on their children, it is a fundamental infringement on their charter of rights and freedoms to determine their freedom for their choices for what goes in their body and no state in any country has the right to impose its will on the sanctity of an individual’s body: and now we will show in court, anybody who wants to come to us, we’ll get the forensic evidence and show them this is what they’re doing to their children and it’s got to stop, got to stop now, it’s got to stop yesterday…
[Joyce] Yes.
[Dr. Moulden] …they can’t go on.
[Joyce] Are you serving as an expert witness in these vaccine cases that they try to rule as being homicide cases?
[Dr. Moulden] I finally got to the point where I dumped all my work for the past several years on the vaccine injury courts about four weeks ago. Now, you know you have something that is actually frightening to them because if they figure there’s nothing there they just let it go through the courts and they say, ‘ha, you’ve got nothing.’ But when they see you’ve got evidence that’s going to be harmful to them, well, the lawyers get on the…irrespective of what the truth is just like the O.J. Simpson trial, they have evidence coming in that’s going to be damning the lawyers do their best to exclude the evidence from being heard in court.
[Joyce] Right.
[Dr. Moulden] So, this is what just happened last week. The lawyers from the other side, from Human Health Services Commission and Glaxo Smith Kline is obviously behind them because this is one of the products we’re actually looking at in this particular case. They’re trying to exclude the evidence from coming into court. So this is the same thing as at the CDC in Richmond, California. They can always deny it if they throw their heads in the sand and pretend that it doesn’t exist. But until you get this evidence in court this will not stop because the only thing these individuals listen to is the mighty pocket book. And the problems we have going on with all these vaccines is we discovered in the microbiology it’s the same process by which Vioxx from Merck (the anti-inflammatory) caused heart attack and stroke. We figured out how it was happening and it’s a medical revolution, and we can now see it and everyone can see it themselves using our Brain Guard technologies.
[Joyce] The sad part is that you do have an answer for this and you have the technology to diagnose it: you have the answer for it and you’re being denied the opportunity to be an expert witness in these trials. And as I was telling you, out of the 600 cases I served as an expert witness on, the only two that I was disallowed the opportunity to testify in were Gulf War illness cases because, obviously, they don’t want that information there. Let me go to Kay in Kansas and then we’re going to talk about your running as a member of Parliament, because we need to support this man and get him in there so he can tell the whole country of Canada and the world what’s really taking place with vaccines. Kay in Kansas, you’re on the air with Dr. Moulden, go ahead please.
[Kay] Good morning, my interest was piqued when you were talking about strokes. I’ve been diagnosed with something called fenestrated basilar artery; are you familiar with that?
[Dr. Moulden] I am, indeed.
[Kay] And would that be caused by a vaccine?
[Dr. Moulden]Well, you see, this is a problem that the inside lining of the blood vessels, in particular the linings of inside all of your blood vessels is very smooth and inside that is smooth muscle which causes the blood vessels to contract and expand. But the basilar artery is the main pipe coming up through the brain stem which can become weakened. Any blood vessel in the body, if it’s being blocked of oxygen can lead to—well you’re calling them fenestrations, these are kind of like little holes—this is something that can be caused by this, but there are multiple reasons why you can have these problems, but in particular from vaccinations. The example I can give very clearly is in an adult. Right now, today, in emergency medicine in neurology we consider any person adult having a stroke as a medical emergency so that within three hours of them having symptoms of paralysis, loss of speech, sensory changes, we want to get them to hospital immediately because within that three-hour window we can do something to try to break up a clot if a clot’s causing the problem. But after three hours if we try to treat it there is a big risk of what we call hemorrhagic transformation, meaning that because the blood vessel walls have been without oxygen for a period of time that we can actually cause a bleeding into the tissue by actually doing the powerful interventions that we do. So having a fenestrated basilar artery, it’s quite possible that this is vaccine-related because these things are toxins, they get in your body, you can't get rid of them unfortunately. That stuff they used as adjuvants for the mercury and aluminum and the various other formaldehydes and other foreign substances put in your body, it can cause damage to any individual vessel so the possibility is there—in your case I can’t prove it.
[Joyce] We’ve got a three minute break; we’ll be right back after this break, and go to www.brainguardmd.com . He’s got the diagnostic tool and the answer but they won’t listen. We’ll be right back; stay tuned.
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[Dave] Alright, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the Tuesday edition of the Power Hour, coming up on fifty-five minutes past the hour. This is Dave.
[Joyce] We have got a couple of callers here, but a couple things I want to cover. First of all, you are running for member of Parliament. We need for people to support you. www.justgetusin.com is the website. The election is going to be the 14th of October so they don’t have much time to get the word spread that you are the man for the job—correct?
[Dr. Moulden] Correct. Our health Canada system here is corrupt. We even fired our food and drug administrator, Dr….who’s been working there for 40 years and three of his colleagues who were whistle blowing saying that the science is not there to support vaccinations, to support silicone breast implants…many psychiatric drugs. Unfortunately when the corporate system rules our checks and balances in society in the United States and Canada we don’t have safety anymore. In fact, in the Ministry of Health in China they publicly executed the food and drug administrator last year for receiving $800,000 in bribes but in Canada and the United States we promote these guys including Senate majority leader, Bill Frist.
[Joyce] That’s right—absolutely. Hey, by the way, I thought it was interesting, you said yesterday that when you saw Beyond Treason, I asked you how you saw it and, by the way, do you have the one with the CD Rom that has all the thousands of pages of documents on it?
[Dr. Moulden] I do indeed.
[Joyce] Ok, you do? You were shown that by a monk. I found that most interesting that you were given a copy by a monk.
[Dr. Moulden] I have pretty eclectic colleagues and friends around the world actually. Here’s the reality of this, anybody I show our diagnostics to--their heart sinks and the tears start running down. One of our lawyers, he started actually dry heaving seeing the split screen of what’s happening in the blood supply in the brain, what we can see happening to these children’s faces that we are actually now recording, it’s that powerful. So even clergy and lawyers and judges and waitresses and the average Joe, out there, and even the doctors of the world will not be able to deny this forensic evidence. But if they won’t open their eyes and look at it they can keep saying that everyone can receive 10,000 vaccines—well, they’re all going to go to jail, I’m afraid, when society comes back and sees what they’ve done because they have perverted science…
[Joyce] I love it.
[Dr. Moulden] They lied.
[Joyce] And definitely, we’re going to have you back on again so we want to find out about that movie and find out more about what we can do in supporting Brain Guard. And by the way, the technology is discussed at www.brainguardmd.com . Let’s go to Fred in Detroit. Fred, you’re on the air with Dr. Moulden—go ahead, please.
[Fred] Yes, first time caller. My daughter was born with autism. Well, before she started with—well, she wasn’t born with it—but before she did that, my wife said that she was cooing and things like that and two things I want to ask you. Number one, what can we do to keep these doctors from delivering these immunizations to our kids and, number two, what can I do to help….because what your doctor said that it was more like a stroke patient and could I find some kind of stuff to help the body to get rid of these certain diseases?
[Dr. Moulden] Yeah, so these are excellent questions and so beyond our www.brainguardmd.com site we have—and if you want more details everything that’s going on and what we can now do, we have another website where we started off where all the information on several other radio shows that I have been on over the past several months is called www.amassnetwork.com and now, in the only way, see, we have discovered in our imaging that there is a common specific and in medicine we call it a big fancy word, pathoneumonic, meaning it only can be caused by this particular process and we have a common neurological imaging tool which we see coming for everybody who’s been vaccine injured. So many people think that—this is profound, as well—many people think that if children were born autistic that we have also found using our technology that we created that even mothers who give birth to these later get vaccinated themselves and start breast feeding, within four hours of breastfeeding their children are starting to get the autistic features and neurological damage…
[Joyce] Oh, no. Can you stay with us five more minutes, sir? Can you stay with us five more minutes, Dr. Moulden?
[Dr. Moulden] Yes, I can.
[Joyce] Ok, we got a one-minute, ten second break, that’s all we’re going to be gone. We’ll be back and then we’ll have five more minutes of Dr. Andrew Moulden. Wow—have we got some more work to do with him. We’ll be right back—stay tuned.
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[Dave] Alright, that makes it official; welcome back to the Power Hour, third hour now in session. Are you mad yet? It’s for the children. Yeah—right. This is Dave.
[Joyce] …and Joyce and I just want to let you all know that the website www.amassnetwork.com is where you can go to find out and listen to Dr. Andrew Moulden. And he says on there, ‘we can now prove causation of autism, ADD, brain damage, sudden death, Gulf War syndrome, specific learning disabilities to the administration of vaccines. Find out why gardasil HPV vaccine is killing our teenage girls. All of that information www.amassnetwork.com . Maybe Wanda can put that up on with the guest’s name today also. Let’s go to Rodney in South Carolina. Rodney, you’re on the air with Dr. Andrew Moulden; go ahead, please.
[Rodney] Yes, I was wondering if you studied anything about the origins of the polio disease and whether the vaccines were the originator of it or to address the polio disease…
[Joyce] Ok, thank you very much, Rodney, from South Carolina. Causation of polio, was it the vaccines, sir?
[Dr. Moulden] Well, this is getting into an area that brings you into conspiratorial area. I’ve looked at specifically Spanish Flu—unfortunately, that came from Fort Detrick, but again, I’m a scientist so unfortunately to maintain my credibility and my empirical steps I can only make claims of things I can show typically and scientifically. If I deviate there from one degree I’m going to get decimated so it’s an excellent question. Unfortunately, I do not have the background knowledge to address it appropriately to answer what he’s asking.
[Joyce] Or you cannot answer. Do not want to or cannot answer—I get it. Now, let’s, just Gulf War Illness, real quickly, you know that’s my hot button and www.gulfwarvets.com is really a lot of good information, listeners, for vaccine information. How do you relate Gulf War Illness, Sir?
[Dr. Moulden] Bring them all to me; you have a quarter of a million Gulf War vets who’ve been messed up by this stuff. It was not and I can tell you conclusively it was not the depleted uranium munitions, it was not anything else, this is vaccine damage because the Gulf War vets—and I say this conclusively—have the same exact neurological damage in our reconstructions of the facial architecture that all the children who developed autism do after vaccinations. Adults who get adverse reactions and demented from Hep A, Hep B as an adult and children with MMR and children with DTP and sudden infant death, it’s the same generic response. This is a two-pronged hit, one from the bug and one from the body’s non-specific immune response to it. And if you over-stimulate the immune system you’re going to cause these problems. And the problems last for a long time because they’ve used squalene and they’ve used aluminum to prolong the non-specific immune response after the injection is there, which is why these women coming back from the Gulf War are giving birth to children with no arms and no legs. It’s the same effect thalidomide had on children: women were using it to treat morning sickness--because these drugs and these foreign substances in the body interfere with the white blood cells and it blocks off oxygen delivery and it can interfere with organ development, or it can interfere with organs already in the body: anything from Tourette’s syndrome to cysts on the brain to renal failure to kidney failure to heart failure to brain damage to the whole gamut because it’s a systemic response throughout the body.
[Joyce] There you got it, ladies and gentlemen. Dr. Andrew Moulden, I thank you so much for joining us. I want you to come back on this show. We’re going to go in depth on these vaccine issues because there’s so much. Well, you just glossed over squalene and adjuvants. We need to spend time on that. That’s not to say there’s not a depleted uranium problem in the second Gulf War…
[Dr. Moulden] Correct.
[Joyce] …we know that, but we will be back with Dr. Andrew Moulden, again. Thank you, thank you, thank you, sir; we want you to get elected. Help him out—go to www.justgetusin.com so he can do the right thing, ladies and gentlemen. We salute you, Dr. Moulden.
[Dr. Moulden] Thank you, very much—pleasure to be on your show.
P.S. A "BIG" Thank You to a very special Power Hour Team Member for transcribing this program!!!
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Hi Yon Yonson,
As I said in the vaccines thread the "science" involved in vaccines is definitely bad or junk science as is the still mainstream central dogma of molecular biology. As a scientist I can just tell you that we merely do not understand at all what we do when people get vaccine shots. Unfortunately it is not easy to explain to your dad why this is the truth rather than the mainstream CDC position.
Maybe he can read this
http://www.relfe.com/vaccine.html
Note also that hepathitis and tetanos are by no means a threat if you eat raw paleo. Only malaria is possibly one in some areas but there exists no vaccine anyway against it yet.
I also face the same problem as you do since I'm planning a trip to Cameroun where the vaccine against yellow fever is in principle mandatory. I'll do everything I can ( even resort to corruption :)) to avoid all vaccinations.
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alright guys, i really need your help. i just had a major argument with my dad about how i don't want to get vaccines before going to thailand. he said he wants me to get the hepatitis and tetanus shots and possibly the malaria pills on the recommendation of some travel agent doctor. i made my arguments but he wanted hard evidence that vaccines are not only ineffective but also possibly harmful. i need some actual studies or statistics i can show him. i know some of you know where to find them and id really appreciate the help. thanks
But if you plan on going into the deep forests of palawan, I would advice you not to go, the malaria there is the brain hemorrhaging type and totally fatal. Only the nutcases dare go there and have to have a prophilaxis "vaccine". The previous nutcases who went into the deep forests of palawan without a prophilaxis vaccine died.
I've been to thailand and I never once heard I needed to be vaccinated.
Same thing going to China, going to Malaysia, going to Indonesia, never heard I needed a vaccine.
And these were the times I didn't know a thing about health.
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thanks guys! i think the my dad should at least understand my position after showing him alphagruis' link. that one is pretty convincing to me. and GS, i am definitely taking your recommendation for malaria in palawan very seriously. but, is the prophylaxis thing the only thing that will work. how about a homeopathy kit or something? i'd be much more comfortable with that
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so it looks like i've more or less convinced my parents that i don't need all of the vaccines recommended. for one thing, i already had a few of them that haven't 'expired' or whatever. i've also shown them links that suggest that vaccines are not only ineffective most of the time, but can be dangerous. but, they're still pushing for the hepatitis A vaccine because i've never gotten it and they know what i'll probably be eating over there (it's apparently transmitted through ingesting contaminated foods). anyways, anyone got the scoop on hep A vaccine? suggestions?
i leave in 20 days!
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Hi Yon Yonson!
I myself take no vaccines no more. NO.
When it comes to Hepatitis A vaccine, just take a look at this virus. You can google it.
I don't remember the details, but this virus is not really dangerous at all (not for adult, strong and healthy men's like you ;) ). It almost always heals, just from itself. Hepatitis B or C (I myself am not even concerned about these, to tell the truth..) are heavier. So if I were you, I would not be concerned about it all! I recommend, just take a look at the whole Hepatitis A thing! ;) You will be no more concerned, I am sure. ;D
Inger
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well, i leave sunday
i stalled my way out of taking any vaccines or malaria pills. I also canceled my tooth filling. so far so good. now i've just got to try and stay more or less rpd over there to stay healthy. hepatitis A is really the only sickness that im somewhat worried about just because it's transmitted through poor food handling. but what i've read about it doesn't seem so bad. get sick for a week or so and then you're back (also found that 1 in 3 adults are naturally immune). as for all the mosquito born illnesses, im just gonna try and keep my arms and legs covered as best i can.
anywho, any last words? tips? recommendations?
i already plan on meeting up with goodsamaritan in the philippines, but if anyone else is in the area and wants to meet up, let me know. maybe we can work something out.
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so excited for you and your next adventure!!
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anywho, any last words? tips? recommendations?
i already plan on meeting up with goodsamaritan in the philippines, but if anyone else is in the area and wants to meet up, let me know. maybe we can work something out.
What date will you be in Manila, how long and where else to go? What do you and your dad want to see? I'll be your volunteer tour guide. You still have my number? You have a hotel booked? Where?
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Thanks ioanna!
GS: i still have your phone number. we are still unsure exactly when we will be in the philippines. we haven't decided if we are going towards the beginning of our trip or towards the end. we are really trying not to plan anything too far in advance so that we have a lot of wiggle room and spontaneity. so, i will let you know as soon as we know when we'll be there, ha. as for sights we want to see, my dad has been doing some research, but im not sure exactly what he's found. really, anything the locals (you) recommend is probably what we would want to do. the only things im fairly certain we will do in the philippines: go to palawan, go to clark air force base (where my dad was stationed). oh, also, my cousin has decided to go with us to the philippines. he is really interested in kickboxing and other martial arts so we'll probably go to a few fights. what part of manila do you live in?
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My wife's cousin is a uniform sponsor for MMA fighters so he knows when the fights are.
Do you want to see cock fights too? They're illegal in your country but it is perfectly ingrained culturally here. I have a customer who is a breeder / cock fighter http://www.longscoregamefarm.com
Palawan is great, last frontier. I posted some great raw animal sea foods etc. in Palawan in this forum somewhere.
I personally like beaches that are not too commercial. I like vacationing with REAL people instead of trained professionals. There's a beach I like in Laiya Batangas, it's a tiny fishing village. They rent out their own houses and offer fishing trips.
Your dad used to work in Clark. Maybe you get to see the girlie bars there. Nearby Clark is Subic and beside it is a small charming village beside it called Morong, Bataan.
Of course if you prefer professionally run hotels, there are lots of those as well in other places like Boracay, good adventure for you to meet girls.
Lots of historical places as well, if your dad is an old soldier, like the Bataan memorial. We could go to charming fresh air mountains as well. Sierra Madre comes to mind.
Food is easy for you, just bring a cooler in the car / van have ice and with it the raw meats or raw fish in.
Take a tour of the wet markets.
Renting a van daily would be good to tour around to wherever you wish to go. They will cost from P 3,500 to 5,000 a day. With driver.
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My wife's cousin is a uniform sponsor for MMA fighters so he knows when the fights are.
neat!
Do you want to see cock fights too? They're illegal in your country but it is perfectly ingrained culturally here. I have a customer who is a breeder / cock fighter http://www.longscoregamefarm.com
i definitely want to see a cockfight.
There's a beach I like in Laiya Batangas, it's a tiny fishing village. They rent out their own houses and offer fishing trips.
this sounds cool. i'll look into it.
We could go to charming fresh air mountains as well. Sierra Madre comes to mind.
that sounds great! we love hiking and everything outdoors
Take a tour of the wet markets.
this is a must
Renting a van daily would be good to tour around to wherever you wish to go. They will cost from P 3,500 to 5,000 a day. With driver.
interesting. also, is it pretty easy to rent motorbikes/scooters?
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interesting. also, is it pretty easy to rent motorbikes/scooters?
There's a motorbike tour guide where you ride as a passenger.
I don't think it is safe for foreigners to drive motorbikes themselves in the city, our driving style is different from yours.
But if you want to ride off road on mountains, there are rentals. My customer may rent out his bikes http://www.ktm.com.ph and http://www.ducati.com.ph
There should be cheaper alternatives to bike rentals than that above. I'll look it up.
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I have lived in Indonesia,Jakarta,for 3 years and I have done a lot of traveling in Southeast Asia. My advice to you as a westerner in terms of health is that there are 2 dangers:
- traffic. It is caothic and dangerous,compared to western countries. You are maybe 100 times more likely to die in a car or motorcycle accident then by a shark attack. I have known several persons that have had very serious accidents and unfortunatly the health facilities are often not very good, except in Singapore ,Malaysia and maybe Thailand. Carefull when riding motorcycles.
- food. This is problematic to most westerns,as we are not used to the microrganisms of these countries. It is normall to have diarrea and other gastointestinal problems when you arrive. Amebas can also be very dangerous. I would be very carefull with eating raw meat and fish in some of these countries. The fact that you are eating in a five star hotel is not a guarranty of safety.
Malaria is a problem only in certain areas, most of the touristic places are malaria free. As for vacines, a large percentage of the population in some countries has Hepatitis B and Tuberculosis,so you might want to consider getting vacinated for these two.
Crime is not a problem in Southeast Asia and even the big cities are safe, except in Cambodja where there are lots of guns, but be carefull with credit card frauds.
Dont touch any drugs in these countries, you can get in very, very serious problems just for smoking a joint.
A good way to explore the region is with low-cost air companies. Air Asia, from Malaysia,has very good safety records and covers almost every county. I recomended it.
I really love Southeast Asia, the people, the scenery,the food, etc. I am sure that you will have a very interesting time. Be carefull with the ladies and STD.
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MMA fights in the Philippines info http://www.urccmma.com/
Cockfighting day is usually Sunday mornings
TB is a malnutrition disease, I doubt you are malnourished. The cure for TB is raw beef and raw beef muscle blood.
Amoebiasis is easy to diagnose and easy to cure. I haven't been hit with it since birth.
I'll show you what I eat everyday so hopefully it's safe as Luis says.
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Realistically, we need several general travel guides for RVAFers on how to eat raw while travelling through various regions/continents/countries. It's clear that the Phillipines is one of the best countries for local farmers' markets, as per GS's accounts, so that is useful. But more info re specific raw foods available etc. would be helpful for others.
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In the Phillipines you should be okay with raw food, because you have the company and advice of goodsamaritan. This is a region where having a local friend and guide will make all the difference and will allow you to experience things that tourists dont usually do.
In the other countries,I would be extremelly carefull.
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thanks for the input luis. im hoping that i'll be ok eating the raw meats in thailand and vietnam because recent experiments tell me i can't handle cook foods comfortably. i know aajonus says thai beef from the markets is his favorite meat... hopefully i'll feel the same. i've also spoken to an rpder (ZCer actually) from thailand. they say the beef in the markets is safe in general. so is the fish. however, i do anticipate eating much more fruit than i do here because: a) they are supposed to have amazing fruit (durian!) b) it's gonna be hot so i won't need to eat as much fat.
i also will probably eating lots of raw eggs as those are convenient and easy to find (i assume). but i will probably have to compromise a little and eat some cooked foods such as balut, cooked insects, soups, etc. I also think i'll be eating lots of young coconut.
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Motorbikes, cockfights, MMA and girls. What a trip!
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hey does anyone know what i can and can't bring on international flights as far as food goes? some things i was considering: dried suet, beef jerky, raw eggs. i was also thinking avocados and some fruit but i seem to recall that fruits and veggies aren't allowed through customs... i hope my beef jerky and raw eggs and suet make it through customs. otherwise im kinda screwed for like at least 20 hours.
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here is the TSA site, you might want to check the airline as well
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1667.shtm
Put in ziplock bags or sealed containers, likely if it just goes through the x-ray and looks harmless they won't bother with it, but if they do search it might be better if the suet if vac packed if possible. Although I don't see how legally it would be in violation, but they can hassle anybody. The eggs might be a flag/customs thing too, but it looks like they have eased up somewhat on fruits, (at least leaving the country maybe?) so avos seems to be a good last resort. But better to confirm with the airline beforehand. If big chunks of each seem dubious, you might also do better breaking everything down into Tupperware container 'meals' - the chunks of jerky and fat, and throw some lettuce on top or something for good measure. GL
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hey does anyone know what i can and can't bring on international flights as far as food goes? some things i was considering: dried suet, beef jerky, raw eggs. i was also thinking avocados and some fruit but i seem to recall that fruits and veggies aren't allowed through customs... i hope my beef jerky and raw eggs and suet make it through customs. otherwise im kinda screwed for like at least 20 hours.
Good idea. Can I taste your USA food? Don't know what beef jerky tastes like, nor dried suet.
Avocados are still in season here and fruits are tons plenty and cheap in this part of the world.
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A guy on ZIOH did the Atlantic crossing regularly and had no trouble from what I remember with pemmican. He referred to them as gluten free muffins!
I've watched a few english Airport customs TV shows and people bring all sorts of different foods into the UK so I think you'll be fine. Jerky would be enough for 20 hours for me personally maybe an Avocado or two would do it.
I know you can take all sorts of food internationally although don't bother bringing anything to Australia. Very strong biosecurity rules.
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I have had issues with travelling with water - liquids are nowadays forbidden unless you buy the mineral-water etc. from a shop in the airportie have a receipt for the water) and if it's closed. At least that's what happened to me in Vienna airport, and other airports have banned me from taking any liquids at all.
In the US, it's even more ridiculous with them asking questions on forms about whether you are illegally intending to bring things like oranges or apples across the State-line etc. Well, maybe it's changed since, as that was my experience in the early 90s in the US.
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thanks for the tips guys. im gonna go get some of those raw food bars they sell now (with nuts and fruit and stuff) as a last resort because i know those can go. im gonna bring lots of jerky and suet too and we'll just see what happens. if i get the jerky to thailand, i'll be sure and save you some gs ;). i think i might leave the eggs behind. im pretty sure those would get confiscated. i might take an avocado or two though. i leave tomorrow morning! ready for all 24 hours of our flight (including a layover in tokyo)!
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I would test how the bars make you feel before the flight. You don't want to be on a airplane for that long, or at the start of a trip feeling crappy. Assuming you can sleep for some of it, the main issue is not becoming dehydrated. I would definitely stock up on water at the airport, as many companies do not even serve clean water.
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My SMS / VOICE #: +63-922-8969975
Have a nice trip!
Send me a test message.
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hey gs, we're not bringing a cell phone. i think it will be easiest to stay in touch via email/messaging. but i will call when i know when we will be in the philippines.
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we made it to bangkok! and i made it with some jerky and suet! just had durian for breakfast. some of the meat here looks a little suspect but i haven't been to one of the nicer markets yet. anyways, just a quick update. oh, on our layover in tokyo i saw raw ham on the menu so i ordered it. it was lunch meat ham... dissappointing. i still ate it though and shit it out an hour later :D
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we made it to bangkok! and i made it with some jerky and suet...in tokyo i saw raw ham on the menu so i ordered it. it was lunch meat ham... dissappointing. i still ate it though and ... later :D
Thanks for writing. You'll have a great time. So, if I go there in the future, I'll feel more confident carrying raw fat and meat. Here I've seen that labeled "boiled ham". Maybe it's better than "baked ham". Perhaps the word "ham" means cooked pork, there.
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just got some really good tasting beef (i think it was skirt steak) at the morning market near khao san road in bangkok! it definitely tasted grass fed and might have even been better than what i get back in the US. there wasn't much fat on it but oh well. the ladies there gave me a weird look ( i guess tourists don't usually buy raw meat). they also had marrow in big femur bones but i didn't want to deal with that at the time. oh, also, trip update: we're leaving bangkok (it's sooo polluted) and going to phuket! time for some fish... and more durian
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Nice, keep the updates comin if you can.
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I wanted to do a muay Thai camp in phucket one day. It's called Rawai. Let me know if you see anything about it.
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my cousin who came with us is actually planning on taking some lessons here (he's really into muy thai). we found a gym right next to our guesthouse. i'll tell you how he likes it. found an awesome market today in phuket. got some raw eggs and some beef and beef fat. but the beef fat is really chew and hard to eat (i don't have a knife with me). so, had some durian and coconut and mangosteen for breakfast/lunch. then some beef and fat for dinner. might try some squid or some kind of sea food tomorrow.
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just slammed 6 of those huge oysters that gs is always talking about. freshest oysters i've ever had. really good with a little chili pepper and garlic (thai style). when i ordered them, the waitress said they make me strong. oh yeah, im in ko samui now
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slight setback...
i was feeling pretty protein deficient yesterday so i ended up eating about two pounds of really yummy beef plus a little fat they threw in. it was great but when i woke up this morning, i had some pretty nasty diarrhea. pretty much just relaxed all day and ate some young coconuts (good rehydrator) and drank lots of water. also ate some bananas which seemed to go down well. no protein but i'll probably try again tomorrow morning with the beef. i might have just got a piece that wasnt very clean or fresh. come to think of it all the other beef i've eaten here (which caused no problems) was trimmed up so that the chunk i got hadn't been exposed to the flies yet. anyways, despite the setback, im feeling fine right now. just hungry. also didnt'' get a great night sleep last night (only had a fan room - no ac). but man, ko samui is an amazing place. i would recommend staying in the town of lamai. it's really laid back and is near a big rock outcropping overlooking the ocean. pretty much paradise. and the bungalow we're renting is about $30 US for 3 people, and right on the beach. can't complain. tomorrow we're taking a ferry and then a bus back to bangkok. then on to either ko chang or chiang mai. will keep you posted. note: first day without durian - it was making me have pretty rank farts :P
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raw kyle: my cousin trained for two hours at a muy thai gym in lamai on ko samui. he really liked it and i think got a lot out of it. apparently it's a lot more about technique than the gyms in the US. i forgot the exact name of the gym but i can ask him if you're interested.
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Did you notice anything from the troubles? Or is that limited to Bangkok?
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Did you notice anything from the troubles? Or is that limited to Bangkok?
are you talking about the diarrhea? if so, i had that in ko samui. im fine now though. it only lasted a day.
i find myself eating LOTS of raw eggs here. they're cheap and easy to eat on the go. and they're really good quality. most that i've had have been fertilized and delicious. it's somewhat hard to get meat here. if i don't get up early to go the morning market, im kinda out of luck for meat that day. maybe i just don't know where to get it. anyways, we move on to chiang mai (northern thailand) today. taking an overnight bus. should be neat. there are hill tribes there. also really excited about doing the Gibbon zip line through the jungle.
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i think im hitting my stride food-wise here. i figured out i can make jerky really easily with fresh beef from the morning market, a fan, and a clothes hanger. also been eating lots of eggs. AND - you will all be jealous - i found grubcomb at the market the other day. it was delicious! no honey at all, just fat bee larvae. really good. tasted a little mealy (maybe consistency of cooked egg yolk) and cheesy. but they were huge! way bigger than bees we have in the US. probably an inch and then some long for the larvae. but ya, you just picked them out of the comb (not the waxy part, just the papery part). they were kind of expensive at 200 baht for maybe 3/4 of a cup full of grubs once i took them all out. so like 6 dollars US. not bad really, but more expensive than beef or eggs, thats for sure. next time i find them at the market, i'll get a pic. oh, also, i found some huge avocados at the market for the first time.haven't tried them yet because they arent' ripe but they're the largest ones i've every seen.
went on a two day jungle trek the last two days. lots of fun. hiking, rafting, and elephant riding. tomorrow morning we head on to laos!
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quick update: im in sapa, vietnam now. we just traveled from chiang mai thailand to laos (which was amazing) then to hanoi. sapa is an amazing place. lots of hill tribe people everywhere and probably one of the most beautiful landscapes i've ever been to. the pland for the next few weeks is to go south to hoi an, then dalat, then saigon. then get to angkor wat in cambodia. still doing well diet wise. i've been keeping it mostly raw but circumstances have forced me to compromise with cooked meet and veg a few times which worked out ok. better than i thought it would. i still felt shitty but not nearly as shitty as the last time i tried cooked. not sure why. found some amazing wild mountian honeycomb here in sapa.... good stuff. i've also been able to find cow marrow bones for very cheap here. so that was welcomed.
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bought a whole cow brain for about 75 cents US and a whole small mackerel for about 50 cents US this morning. good stuff. oh, im in hoi an vietnam. it's a really cool town. really nice beaches and lots of culture (it was an old port from colonial days).
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Wow Vietnam. Nice spices too, not as hot as authentic Thai.
Are the ladies prettier in Vietnam than in Thailand?
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well some of the vietnamese women are really beautiful, but alot are... not. i think overall, thai women are prettier. actually some of the prettiest (to me atleast) women were the hill tribe villagers in sapa, vietnam. for what it's worth.
just arrived in dalat. it's actually somewhat chilly here up in the mountains. beautiful scenery too. lots of pine trees. reminds me of a more tropical colorado or something.
had a goose egg this morning. wow, it was huge. good though. i also found the traditional century eggs in one of the markets only 4000 dong each (about 20 cents US). they're made by covering them in a layer of clay and rice hulls. im not sure if they usually cook them after but i ate mine raw and it was quite good. the 'white' part tasted and felt like when they're cooked but looked clearish brown. the yolk was salty and stinky and delicious. highly recommended.
on another note, this two month trip to southeast asia with my dad and cousin ends at the end of july. however, i might stay in asia and keep travelling (dad has to go back to work). im definitely want to visit the philippines (and gs of course) and might end up going to australia and new zealand too. so, if anyone in australia or new zealand (or southeast asia) wants to meet up it would be nice to know now. i really have no concrete plans so don't know exactly where i'll be but i'd love to meet up with other rpders if possible.
here's a bonus pic of me in a VERY hard to reach waterfall in chiang mai, thailand
(http://knightericm.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/picture-017.jpg?w=418)
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hey guys, it's been a while. here's an update: i cancelled my return flight to the US. just going to buy a one way ticket back whenever i feel ready/run out of money. im planning on going to the philippines on july 31st. really excited about meeting goodsamaratin! have no plans for after the philippines other than a desire to go to australia and new zealand at some point. so, if anyone in this area of the world has recommendations for things to do or has a place i can crash, please let me know. i'd love to meet up with more rpders.
rpd related: ate some raw crab and squid with three fishermen in ko chang, thailand. apparently that's all they do when it's to stormy to go out and fish. they just pulled out a box of freshly caught crab and squid and dipped them in chili sauce and ate them. the crabs they tore in half and sucked the meat out of the middle part (discarding the legs). anyways, one of the coolest experiences we've had. we were trying to catch some fish off the pier and they saw us and called us over to give us some better bait. then it excalated into a rpd feast, ha! they also serve up raw shrimp at almost every authentic thai restaurant near the sea... im satisfied.
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Sounds great.
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Yon with his cousin and I met up.
Last Sunday I picked them up at the airport and we went around town although they hadn't had much sleep from their flight.
Yesterday Tuesday we met up at my office then went up the Sierra Madre mountains for some fresh cool air.
Young adventurers! (22 and 18)
I was able to taste some beef jerky for the first time.
Yon got to taste some local stuff such as horse (asked for seconds), blue marlin / swordfish, tuna, sea urchin, duck eggs, tasted a live clam, beef and some marrow. Did some market tasting with tiny dulong fish and tiny shrimp. Also got to taste some sea weed, green oranges, avocados, cucumbers, durian and got a cherimoya, coconuts he says taste the same as thailand.
Yon and cousin were amazed at how delicious cooked pork blood was: dinuguan / bloodied.
Yon's cousin looks for cooked food.
Yon's cousin also liked the cooked beef intestines at the market.
They are looking forward to find a balut vendor at night.
They had a private audience with my wife and future celtic harp sensation.
This morning planning their flight to Palawan, the last frontier....
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boy, where to start. well, we had a lot of fun hanging out with gs in the philippines. we're now back in bangkok. my cousin is leaving for the US in two days. i still don't have a return ticket. not sure what im going to do, but leaning towards returning to the US. i was also toying with the idea of going to australia to work on a wwoof farm. need to decide soon though.
so i got pretty sick in the philippines. apparently it was from eating over a half kilo of really fatty roasted pork (lechon). it was a stupid decision and i paid the ultimate price. i good chunk of my time in the philippines was spent recovering. my liver became enflammed which caused my right lung to not get enough air. i had trouble sleeping for almost a week. i also developed a rash on my abdomen and back where the toxins where trying to come out.it was miserable. this all happened in palawan. then i went back to manila and gs helped me recover. i learned a lot about his healing techniques. it was interesting because i know a lot about a healthy diet, but next to nothing about healing protocols and such. he showed me the usefulness of kidney cleansing with avocado leaf tea (cleared up the rash), coffee enema (got some thick black stuff out of my liver), and colon cleansing with dr. tam's tea. anywho, he showed me much more aswell. i really have to gave a heartfelt thank you to edwin. he's a pretty amazing person. had lots of fun with him. while i was recovering in manila, he would take me to various places in and around the city. we went to the east coast of luzon, tagaytay, etc.
i'll try and keep you guys posted on my next move. home sounds pretty damn good right now
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Goodsamaritan, you think that Palawan is remote? It is crawling with foreigners.
You think that the boondocks are dangerous? I've been all around Mindanao; anyplace in Mindanao has a tenth of the property crime and violence that MM does.
Just go speak to elementary children in Davao Oriental. They speak better english than most kids in Caloocan.
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Goodsamaritan, you think that Palawan is remote? It is crawling with foreigners.
I meant that it is the last frontier with virgin forests and virgin swamps, virgin etc.
There are lots of foreigners in palawan operating lots of NGOs to precisely to keep Palawan as the last frontier.
They encourage tourism too for those last frontier appreciation.
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home at last! long ass plane ride. im super jetlagged right now. anyways, it's really good to be back. maybe i'll give a more thorough update later.
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Did you fly by airplane or aeroplane?
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hmmm, is this a british thing? im gonna go with airplane
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so i didn't realize it at the time, but i lost a LOT of weight while i was sick in the philippines from eating too much fatty cooked pork. when i got back to the US, i weight myself and apparently lost 17 pounds! and im a small person, so that's really significant. my normal weight is 125 lbs and i dropped to 108... disturbing. but have no fear. i've been back for a little over two weeks now and have been eating a ton. feeling really good now. already gained back 6 lbs of solid muscle. and i don't see much of an end in site. my metabolism is kickin. i should be back to my normal weight within a week or two. definitely gonna try and go beyond too.
also, for those interested, the quality of meat i get in the US is drastically better than most of the meat i got in asia. maybe it's just that im used to it, but i doubt it. so much more flavor and i can eat a lot more of the grass fed stuff from the US. GS has got some pretty awesome stuff in the philippines, but my beef makes thailand, vietnam, laos, and cambodia's meat look pretty weak. im kinda puzzled because i heard someone on hear saying aajonus likes thai beef the most. i don't get it. i mean sometimes it's okay but it's nothing compared to texas grass fed beef.
i'm gonna try and post some pics from my trip soon. stay posted
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Useful to know as I will be visiting SE Asia in a few years, with luck. I suppose the best option is raw seafood, in those regions.
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i suck at computers. anyone know how to get these to show up as pictures?
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I'd like to know that too.
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Useful to know as I will be visiting SE Asia in a few years, with luck. I suppose the best option is raw seafood, in those regions.
Remember to stop by Manila.
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Remember to stop by Manila.
Sure.
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i figured the pictures out. here we go!
me buying some rose apples (the red fruits) at the floating market outside bangkok
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3B4%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D348%3A37%3C55732%3Anu0mrj)
we took one of these long boats on a two day ride from northern thailand to luang prabang laos
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kwang si waterfall in luang prabang. one of the most amazing places i've ever been hands down
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more
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what the fuck? painted on the wall of a buddhist temple in luang prabang. that horse needs help
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3B4%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D348%3A3879%3B%3B32%3Anu0mrj)
we got in a wreck... it sucked but no one was hurt
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3B2%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D348%3A3877%3C%3B32%3Anu0mrj)
vietnamese parkour group in hanoi. apparently they're the only parkour group in all of vietnam. pretty sweet
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3B%3B%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D348%3A38768732%3Anu0mrj)
my cousin drinking snake wine. yeah, it's a cobra
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3A%3B%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D348%3A36%3C%3A8632%3Anu0mrj)
ha long bay vietnam
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my dad kayaking
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Wow, those mountains/rocks & the nature is absolutely gorgeous!
The cobra wine is out of this world, did that fuck up your cousin in any way? lol
There is a good chance I am going this winter to Trinidad for a work trip. I have never even been to a warm country I have no clue how it will be and what the hell I will eat there....Anyone know how I can stay raw paleo or at least semi-raw paleo in Trinidad?
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more ha long bay
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night
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me hiking
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sapa vietnam
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we befriended some hmong hill tribe girls. amazingly kind
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walking to their village
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my cousin dyed his shirt with their indigo
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my homies (from left): coo, sasa, and gon
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five leaf clover i found with the help and wisdom of coo
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she had about 15 four leaf clovers, 5 five leaf clovers, and 1 six leaf clover. pretty fuckin cool
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53835%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D348%3A38%3A2%3B832%3Anu0mrj)
hoi an vietnam
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got up early to get the good stuff at the market: whole cow brain for US $0.50
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buying avocados (not as good as haas - not nearly as fatty)
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sunrise after long bus ride
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motorbikes in dalat vietnam. really cool pine forests
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ate some cooked snails with some college kids
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53835%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34986377%3C832%3Anu0mrj)
walkable stream in munei vietnam
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"independence or death" - ho chi minh (looks like a banksy by the way)
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53835%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D3498624%3B4932%3Anu0mrj)
tuol sleng prison in phnom phen cambodia. heavy stuff. a converted elementary school transformed into the khmer rouge's main torturing center
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53837%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D349863464732%3Anu0mrj)
bullet through the skull
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angkor wat. haha, what dorks
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3C8%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D349862%3A65%3B32%3Anu0mrj)
ta prom. go nature!
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp5383%3B%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D349863465532%3Anu0mrj)
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53842%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34985%3B457%3B32%3Anu0mrj)
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The cobra wine is out of this world, did that fuck up your cousin in any way? lol
we all just took a shot of it. it wasn't so bad. it was kinda licorice flavored with a hint of... dead snake, ha
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raw ant larvae! one of the best things i ate in asia. delicious. kinda tasted like scrambled eggs but saltier
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3B4%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D3498626%3B%3A432%3Anu0mrj)
floating village on tonle sap lake
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53838%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3A5355%3A7532%3Anu0mrj)
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3B7%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3A5355%3A7832%3Anu0mrj)
wild monkeys on ko chang thailand
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we kayaked out to an unihabited island and i found a coconut. ripped off the husk and had a good drink and some nice coconut meat
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3B2%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3A535%3C98732%3Anu0mrj)
ko mak thailand
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3A%3B%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3A535%3C9%3A332%3Anu0mrj)
me and edwin in the mountains outside manila
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really cool native palawan museum. blowguns, bows, spears, snares, etc
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3A9%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B578%3A%3B%3C232%3Anu0mrj)
ugh, this is what's left of the lechon (roasted pork coated in MSG) that got me sick for 3 weeks.
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3C6%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B577686832%3Anu0mrj)
what's with that tree!?
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3A9%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B578%3B23232%3Anu0mrj)
on the farm in aborlan, palawan, PI
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sabang palawan
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water buffalo
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we found a cool cave on a hike
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3C5%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B578%3B25532%3Anu0mrj)
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3C%3B%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B577689232%3Anu0mrj)
paddling through world's longest subterranean river
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edwin's son, cush, on the east coast of luzon
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edwin with his kids
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tagaytay volcano. active while we were there
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3A8%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B9%3A974%3A332%3Anu0mrj)
awesome wet market edwin and I went to. the most fresh beef i've ever seen in one place
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3A9%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B9%3B273%3C232%3Anu0mrj)
woah! i wish the US had markets like this
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that meat was still twitching. unreal.
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53838%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B9%3A%3A%3C54%3B32%3Anu0mrj)
we had a nice picnic of fresh beef and liver
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3B6%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D34%3B9%3B2753632%3Anu0mrj)
edwin eating some small lake fish
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back in thailand. got some dancing shrimp for dinner. the shrimp are still alive and kickin in some fresh chili and greens
(http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3B6%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D35364%3B373%3A32%3Anu0mrj)
trat. really cool old town
(http://images5a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp63387%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D35364%3B374932%3Anu0mrj)
back on ko chang hiking to waterfall
(http://images5a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp63387%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D35364%3B655932%3Anu0mrj)
(http://images5a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp6338%3A%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D35364%3B375732%3Anu0mrj)
nice sunset to end it
(http://images5a.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp633%3A%3A%3Enu%3D3258%3E282%3E%3A7%3A%3EWSNRCG%3D35364%3B656732%3Anu0mrj)
and there you have it finally. hope you enjoy
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Cool pics! You would have enjoyed it more if you didn't get sick.
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Amazing pix! :)
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thanks guys! i would definitely enjoyed the end of my trip more if i hadn't eaten all that roasted pork... live and learn. won't happen again.
man, this thread has got me craving some ant larvae...
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wow! u had so much fun! i get water in my mouth seeing those fresh beef, coconuts and specially, that raw shrimp with spices. when i go back my country, i'll make that shrimp. i'll also meet to Edwin in Philippines. life is too short. i'll be going anytime by next year. :D