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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: nielsz1972 on January 25, 2010, 02:23:51 am
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I live in the Netherlands and can't get hold of grass-fed meat. :(
All animals are fed with grains. I can't eat those meats, because off my psoriasis.
What should I do ? Should i buy mailorder meat ?
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Do you mean that grainfed meat causes you psoriasis ?
What about game, fish, seafood, eggs ?
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Yes, grain-fed meat causes psoriasis. :(
Seafood is ok for me. I need 100% grass-fed meat.
Do you know an adres where i can order meat ?
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Yes, grain-fed meat causes psoriasis. :(
Seafood is ok for me. I need 100% grass-fed meat.
Do you know an adres where i can order meat ?
You have a problem. Last I checked the Netherlands and Belgium had an extremely high population density, and therefore high food prices, and poor choices. Plus, ordering raw grassfed meat from abroad may prove difficult unless you can persuade German etc.farms to look the other way(if they're close to the Dutch border). Other than the last option, do try to obtain raw wild game(it's far superior to raw grassfed meats). Obviously depend on wildcaught seafood to some extent(I myself do so as I find that superior health is acheived with at least some portion of raw wild seafood)
*Just did some googling online and there does indeed seem to be some sort of a grassfed meat industry in the Netherlands:-
"•The fat from cattle raised on green grass has much higher concentrations of vitamin K2. Studies of K2 have suggested it is extremely potent for lowering arterial calcifications, which in turn lowers the risk of heart disease. The Rotterdam Study, which prospectively followed just over 4,600 men aged 55 or older in the Netherlands, showed that the highest intake of vitamin K2 was associated with a 52 percent lower risk of severe aortic calcification, a 41 percent lower risk of coronary heart disease (CHD), a 51 percent lower risk of CHD mortality, and a 26 percent lower risk of total mortality. " taken from:-
http://www.healthy-eating-politics.com/grass-fed-beef.html
Other options include searching for an organic/grassfed meat association in the Netherlands etc. In short, whenever I hear newbies claim shortages of high-quality raw foods such as grassfed meats I'm generally highly sceptical of such claims as I felt the same way when I was in London, UK at the start of this diet, and, because of strenuous effort on my part re googling grassfed farms, visiting farmers' markets/health-stores/organic butchers etc at least once a week or more, I was able to find numerous excellent sources of high quality.
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Tyler, thanks for your reply. I will keep on looking for the right meats.
First of all, what is: "raw wild game" ?
I already visited health-stores and organic butchers and tried there raw meat.
Organic meat in Holland is also grain-fed :(
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Look for farmer markets & farms, forget the butchers or stores
Theres also an international directory for grass fed farms, just google grass fed unpasteurised milk
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Is Irish beef 100% grass-fed ?
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Tyler, thanks for your reply. I will keep on looking for the right meats.
First of all, what is: "raw wild game" ?
I already visited health-stores and organic butchers and tried there raw meat.
Organic meat in Holland is also grain-fed :(
Raw wild game is meat/organs from wild animals such as wild deer, wild hare, wild boar etc.
I think you're giving up too soon. Given that link I gave it's clear that grassfed meat does exist in Holland to some degree. There may be a Dutch grassfed meat website somewhere, plus some farms provide grassfed meat but can't afford to go organic(you'd have to phone multiple farms and ask them what they feed their animals).
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I found a meat supplier only 3 km from my house ;D
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I found a meat supplier only 3 km from my house
Nielsz! Where do you stay? We are Dutch, but like you said, we also have been unable to find grass fed meat in the Netherlands. Did you find a poacher (stroper) ;)
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Diana, where do you live ?
I live in Warmenhuizen. That's near Alkmaar and Schagen.
Here are some links if you are looking for 100% grass-fed meat:
http://www.modderbaard.nl/voeding/kwaliteit-van-vlees/
- http://www.wildrundvlees.nl/
- http://www.puregraze.com/
- http://www.veldenbeek.nl/
- http://www.drentsweidevlees.nl/
http://www.vaneigenerf.nl/verkooppunten/
Good luck
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Just Google "hertenvlees".
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Vaak is grasgevoerd niet helemaal grasgevoerd en worden de beesten na een levenlang (kuil)gras vlak voor de slacht nog een week of zes op granen en mais gezet om wat extra aan te komen. Van de mooie verhouding tussen omega-3 en omega-6 in het vlees blijft niet zoveel meer over...
Altijd even expliciet navragen dus!
Ik vond het zelf ook lastig om wat te vinden, maar inmiddels heb ik al een paar bronnen voor lamsvlees en rundvlees. Ben nu bezig met varkensvlees van beesten op een natuurlijk dieet. Heb al een varkenshouderij gevonden die bereid is een varken 'natuurlijk' te voeren.
Alleen kip is nog een probleem, maar ik blijf stug doorzoeken!
Ik probeer overigens voor mijn website een lijstje samen te stellen met plaatsen waar in NL grasgevoerd vlees is te verkijgen. Mochten jullie er nog een paar weten: heel erg graag! :)
Zal er binnenkort een stukje over schrijven op mijn site www.modderbaard.nl (http://www.modderbaard.nl/).
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Why not go the whole hog and start a Dutch version of rawpaleoforum? We already have a French forum and it would be great to have more RPD forums for other languages.
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Vaak is grasgevoerd niet helemaal grasgevoerd en worden de beesten na een levenlang (kuil)gras vlak voor de slacht nog een week of zes op granen en mais gezet om wat extra aan te komen. Van de mooie verhouding tussen omega-3 en omega-6 in het vlees blijft niet zoveel meer over...
Altijd even expliciet navragen dus!
Ik vond het zelf ook lastig om wat te vinden, maar inmiddels heb ik al een paar bronnen voor lamsvlees en rundvlees. Ben nu bezig met varkensvlees van beesten op een natuurlijk dieet. Heb al een varkenshouderij gevonden die bereid is een varken 'natuurlijk' te voeren.
Alleen kip is nog een probleem, maar ik blijf stug doorzoeken!
Ik probeer overigens voor mijn website een lijstje samen te stellen met plaatsen waar in NL grasgevoerd vlees is te verkijgen. Mochten jullie er nog een paar weten: heel erg graag! :)
Zal er binnenkort een stukje over schrijven op mijn site www.modderbaard.nl (http://www.modderbaard.nl/).
Do you have a list of all grass-fed farms ? Please post it.
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Nielsz, thanks for the links! I will look into it. A good idea to look for dear!
We are actually out of the country for most of the year, but we do spend some time there every year. We are from Elst (Utrecht), right on the edge of the woods. A could opportunity to do some hunting ;) if that was allowed. Paleo times are a thing of the past. There used to be a poacher nearby our home, that is why I thought of that.
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Do you have a list of all grass-fed farms ? Please post it.
I am compiling one. Four addresses from my site (http://www.modderbaard.nl/) were already quoted by you.
Still looking for input though... Did you find some more resources?
When I'll find more I'll post!
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I am compiling one. Four addresses from my site (http://www.modderbaard.nl/) were already quoted by you.
Still looking for input though... Did you find some more resources?
When I'll find more I'll post!
http://www.loeigoeiezuivel.nl/ ben bij ze langsgeweest, ze verkopen ook vlees.
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I found good pork. Adopted a pig.
Did a post about it on mu website:
http://www.modderbaard.nl/algemeen/lotte/ (http://www.modderbaard.nl/algemeen/lotte/)
At the bottom (http://www.modderbaard.nl/algemeen/lotte/#overzicht) of the page a list with all grassfed meat I found so far.
(Loeigoeie zuivel not added yet)
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A list of grassfed meat resources in the Netherlands:
http://www.modderbaard.nl/grasgevoerd/