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Title: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 19, 2008, 06:14:54 am
Hello all!
My name's Keith and this is my journal  :)
My main goals, besides ultimate supremo-health, are to gain weight in the form of lean muscle and increase strength.
I will not keep a day-to-day log of my eating but here is are some typical days of eating as of right now.

Meal 1:
1 banana
4-6 oz. of raw organ meat
Handful of berries
3 oz. Spinach

Meal 2:
1 banana
1 apple
3-6 tbsp. of hemp seeds

Meal 3:
1 banana
16 oz. of raw 75% lean ground beef
3 oz. spinach and 1/2 of a tomato

Meal 4:
16 oz. of raw 75% lean ground beef
3 oz. spinach and 1/2 of a tomato

Meal 5:
3 raw eggs

However, right now, I only have organ meats once every few days. If I'm not eating organ meat I'll split up the first 16 oz. of ground beef and have 8 oz of it in Meal 1 and 8 oz. in Meal 3.
Also, I have 1 tbsp. of honey in the morning on workout days. Other than that I workout on an empty stomach and eat Meal 1 about an hour after my workout.

Like I said, the above is a typical example, but some days it's different.
I've tried eating one large meal in the evenings like many do here, but it didn't work out as well for me. I feel like what I'm doing right now is very good.


Today was my first day going to a gym in a long time... I had a great workout and I was full of energy. I used to yawn frequently during workouts when I was not rawpaleo, but not today. I felt so mentally acute and physically energized.
This could be due to my better health as a result of the rawpaleo diet, or it could be due to working out on an empty stomach, which I wouldn't have dreamed of doing in the old days. My, how things change   :D
Other than having a great workout, I went to get an idea of how much I could lift after taking such a long break (I haven't gone to the gym consistently in about two years).
Now I have a good idea of how much I can lift so I don't need to worry about finding this out on Monday, when I begin my real routine, which I will put up as soon as I get it all figured out.

Anyways, I'm excited!
Thanks for reading!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Raw Kyle on July 19, 2008, 09:38:56 am
Good luck, I'll be following your progress. I have a similar goal. Right now I'm about 160 lbs and was going to be competing at 155 lbs but I think I would look better and be healthier and stronger competing at 170 lbs so I'll be trying to get up to around that weight.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 20, 2008, 05:55:29 am
Thanks man! Good luck to you as well!  8)

Saturday July 19
Man oh man, my legs and my ass are sore from doing squats yesterday.
I forgot what it was like to be so sore that just sitting down is a chore.
I hope I'm not sore anymore by Monday morning!!


Anyways, I continue to amaze myself at how stupid I can be when it comes to eating things that I shouldn't be.
I know how negatively certain foods affect me, but I still eat them anyway. I can only accept myself as in a process and move on and try to do better!  ;D

I know people on here say that they can eat less raw food and feel full, but man, I am always hungry! I don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but now 2lbs of meat is nothing to me. For instance, today I had eaten 2 lbs of meat by 3:30... I ate the first pound at around 10:00 or so and I was going to eat the second pound much later on in the day but I was so hungry and my body was really craving it so I ate it. I'm now letting a third pound defrost so I can eat that later tonight. This is getting expensive lol!

When I first started eating the two pounds a day I wasn't getting so hungry, but that only lasted a couple days.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: TylerDurden on July 20, 2008, 06:26:47 am
You need to buy lots of pure fats, especially marrow and suet  or very fatty meats.It's really difficult to eat vast amounts when you're eating so much raw animal  fat, IMO.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 20, 2008, 11:02:24 am
Is 75% lean ground beef fatty enough? Because that's what I'm eating...
I do have a bit of marrow that I've yet to try, but it's not really enough to last me a long time.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Raw Kyle on July 20, 2008, 04:22:14 pm
You should mix the meat with fat, fatty meat isn't enough. If you look at a carcass there is the meat, the organs, and fat surrounding and running through all of that. The best strategy imo is to try and replicate that. So I'll try and take some meat (regardless of how lean it is doesn't mean much to me) and mix it with maybe a quarter in volume to the meat of pure fat like suet. Then once in a while I'll eat organs, which I don't like at all but can stomach once in a while like medicine.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: TylerDurden on July 20, 2008, 06:01:43 pm
Minced/ground beef usually has its fat removed before sale, so it's well worth looking for a pure fat like suet or marrow. Sometimes one can get a farmer to NOT cut off the fat from the meats in which case that's great, but not everyone can get that opportunity, so it's best to set up long-term supplies of  tongue, marrow or suet as alternatives.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: wodgina on July 20, 2008, 07:08:12 pm
After reading AV's books and the yahoo RVAF forum for some reason I didn't pickup the need to eat fat, all I was thinking about was eating raw meat. So I was eating alot! 3 pounds (lean meat) was not unusual and was still hungry, I really struggled and couldn't work out what I was doing wrong.

I would of thought 25% fat would be fine, that's a fair amount, if your eating 3 pounds a day equals 300 grams of fat at 2700 calories. I was eating about that for a while at the start and I'm around the same size as you (I'm 5'9 155 pounds)

Now I eat about 500 grams of minced beef (5% fat)and around 200-250 grams of suet mixed together like hamburger mix. It was cheaper to eat less meat and higher fat although I don't mind shelling out cash for food. In fact when I was first starting the diet I was spending $350 a week! I was eating gourmet stuff like emu eggs/oysters/scallops/exotic fruits etc. Now I spend around $100 and could easily get it lower than that.

Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Satya on July 20, 2008, 11:51:02 pm
Thanks for posting this.  As you get into your workouts, perhaps you will share details of them.  Are you still sore from leg day?  OMG, in taekwondo class, we were practicing falling and rolling for an hour Wednesday.  Standing and falling forward, catching myself on my forearms inches about the ground repeatedly.  My triceps and upper back are still sore from that.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 21, 2008, 12:10:25 am
Wow that sounds intense!
My legs are still sore but not nearly as bad as yesterday. They should be good to go tomorrow (hopefully!)
Yep, I'll keep a log of my workouts...

Oh, and lol @ your typo of "lag day"... it was anything but that!  :D
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: lex_rooker on July 21, 2008, 05:08:31 am
Keith,
The fat content of meat sold at the market is usually about 2% to 3% below what is marked on the package.  The USDA assumes that fat is waste and will fine the market if the actual fat content of the meat is even the slightest bit over what is marked, therefore, the markets error on the side of less fat to assure that if they are randomly tested by an inspector that they will pass.

You should be eating around 80% of your calories as fat.  I personally don't like the mushy taste of regular ground beef so I used coarsely ground or chopped meat and add additional fat to assure that I'm getting enough.  I also eat only grass fed meats as they have a very high content of Omega 3 fatty acids - usually between 25% and 50% of the total fat is Omega 3 and that's a good thing.   Normal grain fed beef from the market usually has a ratio of 4% Omega 3 or less and that's a bad thing.  You can eat regular meat and fat from the market but I always supplement with fish oil (about 30 one gram softgels a day) if I eat grain fed meat from the market.  This will add the Omega 3 back in and if you buy the fish oil in bulk from places like Costco you can get a 10 day supply (300 caps) for less than $10.  Another benefit is that this adds more fat to your diet as thirty 1gram soft gels equal a full ounce of additional fat.

Here's a list showing the amount of fat by weight vs the fat content as calories.  Remember that this is the true weight of fat in the meat and the true amout of fat is 2% to 3% less than what is marked on the package.

10% fat by weight = 50% of calories
15% fat by weight = 63% of calories
20% fat by weight = 71% of calories
25% fat by weight = 77% of calories
30% fat by weight = 81% of calories

As you can see, after you subtract a couple of percent from the marked value, the only thing that comes close is the 30% fat ground beef.  Being young and very active you may need to eat 3 to 4 lbs per day.  On the Lewis and Clarke Expedition, after a hard day of rowing and portage the men often ate 9 lbs of meat.  When you are eating meat and fat, and keeping the fat at 75% to 80% of calories, the rule is to eat as often and as much as it takes to satisfy your hunger. 

I also recommend that you add a couple of grams (1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon) of salt to your meat every day.  You need the chloride in the salt for your body to manufacture the hydrochloric acid for your digestive system.  Contrary to popular belief, hunger/gatherers prized salt.  The Inuit drink brackish water which contains a good bit of salt.  There are even cases of tribal wars being temporarily halted so that salt supplies could be replenished.

Hope this helps,

Lex
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 21, 2008, 05:28:22 am
Hi there Lex! Thanks for writing.

I do make sure to only consume grass-fed meat. I am a big believer in it (how could you not be?  :) )
I've read so much about the omega-3 to omega-6 ratio and I'm a huge believer that that is the very first thing that should be checked and corrected when it comes to any health problem before any other steps are taken.
I'm not a fan of taking capsules unless I'm really sure of what's in them as far as fillers and such (many capsules have things like magnesium stearate, soybean oil, titanium dioxide, and the like) and also what the capsules are made of. However, since I'm eating grassfed beef, that's not really a problem, eh?

I must correct a statement you have made though... you say that grass-fed beef has 25%-50% of the total fat being Omega-3. While this would be nice, it's not true. 25%-50% of the total EFA's are omega-3, not total fat.

So, with eating the 75% lean beef as well as the hemp seeds and eggs, I'm pretty sure I'm getting close to 80% fat. I think my hunger the past couple days has had to do with forgetting/skipping meals (yesterday I didn't have any spinach or seeds or eggs... DUH!) and also perhaps an effect of eating the "bad" foods that I shouldn't have throughout last week...

As for the salt, do you know if baking soda is an adequate substitute? Every morning upon rising I make a drink from ACV, baking soda, and cayenne pepper. The baking soda (1/8th of a teaspoon) provides a LOT of sodium, but you mention chloride, and I'm not sure if that is present in baking soda.

I know ACV and baking soda aren't technically paleo, but it is an addition to my diet that I do believe is positive. (I also wash my hair with ACV and baking soda!)
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: lex_rooker on July 21, 2008, 07:13:17 am
Keith,
Here is a link to an analysis of the fat breakdown of Slanker's meats.  My assumption (which could be wrong) is that it includes all the fatty acids in the meat.  You are free to interpret it any way you wish.

http://www.slankersgrassfedmeats.com/id73.htm

Baking Soda is sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3) and contains no chloride - infact it neutralizes hydrochloric acid and can cause real problems with digestion.  I never touch the stuff and haven't needed anything to deal with heartburn or other acid issues since I converted to paleo (cooked or raw) in 2005.

You need something with Cl in the formula.  Salt is Sodium Chloride (NaCl), or if you'd prefer to reduce your sodium and raise your potassium you could use Potassium Chloride (KCl) which is usually labeled 'salt substitute' right next to the salt in the supermarket.  Either is fine for increasing your Chloride intake.  If it were me, I'd substitute Potassium Chloride for the baking soda in my morning drink.  The body needs more potassium than sodium and you'd be getting the chloride you need so you're killing two birds with one stone as it were.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal - Fatty Acid Composition
Post by: xylothrill on July 21, 2008, 02:20:39 pm
This is what I see:

Fatty Acid %Composition
**Total Omega-31.22
***Total Omega-61.08

I always thought it was the ratio that was more important with 1:4 mega3:omega6 being "okay" and the closest to 1:1 being ideal.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: lex_rooker on July 21, 2008, 02:54:11 pm
At 1.22 Omega3 to 1.08 Omega6 it looks like it is a little better than 1:1.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: xylothrill on July 21, 2008, 03:16:06 pm
It does and since non-paleo foods aren't high in Omega6, our ancestors probably only ever got 1:1 and better. Furthermore, the Omega3 is already broken down into it's DPA, EPA, DHA -  16 various forms of Omega3 acids.

Craig
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Nicola on July 21, 2008, 07:36:37 pm

I also recommend that you add a couple of grams (1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon) of salt to your meat every day.  You need the chloride in the salt for your body to manufacture the hydrochloric acid for your digestive system.  Contrary to popular belief, hunger/gatherers prized salt.  The Inuit drink brackish water which contains a good bit of salt.  There are even cases of tribal wars being temporarily halted so that salt supplies could be replenished.

Lex

Lex, did you start out with adding salt, or is this what you added because of poor digestion? You mentioned salt in connection with cramps, but not if you needed it for your digestive system and if so can you tell a difference?

For me it is hard to add salt because of this alkaline ionized water; as soon as I start to drink this water after my jog and exercise the thought of lack of energy is gone - salt? :-X meat :-X fat :-X. I end up doing all kinds of things and I believe that this water is playing a pig part - how I do not understand...

I have had a few days with adding salt but this water makes up a different picture for my mind to process; our minds are made up of all kinds of information and adding salt will give all kinds of human information.

Do you know how your sister gets on with feeding her dogs raw meat? I tend to wonder how they make hydrochloric acid?

Nicola
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 21, 2008, 10:42:35 pm
First of all, I want to explain my workout program that I devised last night.
It's an 8 week program. Each day is a full-body workout. The first three exercises of each day are the main ones... they are compound lifts that focus primarily on the larger muscle groups: chest, back, and legs. The rest of them are more isolation type, things like arms, shoulders, abs, etc. Most of these I'll be shooting for 6-8 reps.
The first two weeks, I will be doing 3 sets, shooting for 8-10 reps, of the first three exercises. Then the next two weeks, I'll change it to 4 sets of 6-8 reps. Then the next two weeks it will be 5 sets of 5-6 reps. And then the final two weeks I will go back to 3 sets of 8-10 reps.
I've done a plan like this before in the past and it worked very well.


Monday, July 21

Had a good workout today. I felt full of energy despite not having a good night of sleep last night, which is a rarity these days. My workout lasted approx 1 hour. I took about 60-90 seconds of rest in between each set.

Here's my log of the first day of my lifting routine. (for those that don't know, the first number is the weight, and the second number is the amount of repetitions I completed. For exercises that utilize dumbbells, the weight that is shown is the weight of one dumbbell in one hand, so for instance, standing shoulder press: 20x12 means that in both hands I had a 20 lb. weight, totalling 40 lbs)

1. Bench Press
         -115x10     -115x8       -115x5
2. Leg Press
          -340x9      -340x9       -340x8
3. Lat Pulldowns
          -120x9      -120x7       -120x4
4. Standing Dumbbell Shoulder Press
          -20x12      -20x8         -20x6
5. Tricep Pushdown
          -130x7      -130x5       -120x5
6. Preacher Curls
          -70x8        -70x4        -60x6
7. Incline Crunches with added weight
          -20x10       -20x6
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Nicola on July 22, 2008, 04:10:18 am
Hi Keith

Try eating your organs after a few days/weeks; cut the hart (good source of Q10) to bite size pieces, put in a glass container/jar and open&turn the pieces once/twice a day. Keep in the fridge (I leave the glass out for the first few days to speed up the process - till my neighbours ring at my door and complain about the smell...).

Most organs taste better a little aged or as high meat. Spleen (lamb) and/or other aged/high organs add a mouth full of "high light" to a meal of muscle meat and fat.


Nicola
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 22, 2008, 04:34:19 am
Thanks for the advice Nicola! I've read about making high meat before, and most things I've read about it say that it's for people who have been doing a RAF diet for quite some time.
I was thinking about trying it when I get back to school, but I'll have to see how my suitemates in my apartment react. I would fully understand if they didn't want me keeping rotting, smelly meat in the refrigerator! 

That aside, how much should one make at one time? And how often and in what quantity should it be eaten?
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Nicola on July 22, 2008, 05:36:16 am
Thanks for the advice Nicola! I've read about making high meat before, and most things I've read about it say that it's for people who have been doing a RAF diet for quite some time.
I was thinking about trying it when I get back to school, but I'll have to see how my suitemates in my apartment react. I would fully understand if they didn't want me keeping rotting, smelly meat in the refrigerator! 

That aside, how much should one make at one time? And how often and in what quantity should it be eaten?

Keith, I am a woman - a big lad may/can put away more/different food (like 40+ bananas... :o) so go by your own feelings. I just like to tell people that organs have more "aroma" when they are smelly and you don't have the problem of "having" to eat the organ "fresh" - it will not run away. I like to have a few organs for a little "kick" to my muscle meats and fat.

Nicola
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 22, 2008, 05:53:25 am
Understood!
I just didn't want to make a bunch of high meat and then not be able to eat it all before it just got too old (i hear it gets very liquidy after a while)
I also didn't want to make too much or eat too much as I wasn't sure if it's the sort of thing where you only need a small amount, you know, to get that bacteria in you, and maybe too much was a bad thing.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: TylerDurden on July 22, 2008, 06:56:42 pm
Aajonus recommends eating a marble-sized amount of high-meat each day. I found, however, that I didn't get the full benefits unless I ate two bite-sized chunks each day. One has to remember that our digestive system wipes out something like 99% of the bacteria in food, so eating fresh, raw food isn't enough to make up for eating bacteria-deficient cooked foods over decades. High-meat helps to correct the balance. IMO, people new to the diet should preferably start getting used to fresh raw grassfed muscle-meats first(along with raw fish/shellfish etc.), then proceed onto raw (grassfed)organ-meats, and then wild meats/organ-meats(if available) - only after that should they try high-meat - however, if beginners have serious problems with digestion right at the start of the diet they should either go in for EM products or the high-meat (along with enzyme supplements which are as natural as possible) so as to improve digestion.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 23, 2008, 10:43:08 pm
Thanks TylerDurden for the info!

Wednesday, July 23

I just got back from the gym a little bit ago. Here's my workout log... still going for three sets of 8-10 reps on the first 3 exercises, 6-8 reps on the rest of 'em:

1. Barbell Row                -         80x10        80x10       80x7
2. Incline Dumbbell Press  -         35x10        35x8        35x5
3. Stifflegged Deadlift      -         135x10      135x8       135x6
4. Barbell Curl                 -         50x11       50x8         50x7
5. Dips                          -           x9            x7            x3
6. Barbell Shrugs             -          145x8       145x7        145x6
7. Leg Extensions            -          180x11      220x7       220x7

I'm still keeping my rests in between sets pretty short, usually around 60 seconds.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 25, 2008, 10:56:13 pm
Friday July 25

I didn't go to the gym today as planned. I'm still rather sore from Wednesday (my hamstrings and my traps) and I really want to have another day of rest, especially because I'll be doing squats this next workout and with my hamstrings as sore as they are I don't think I could perform 100%. But I'll be sure to go tomorrow morning, that way I still have Sunday as a rest day before starting the week again on Monday.

On a couple side notes, I've started going barefoot as much as possible. Even just doing it the past couple days, I've already noticed a change in the way I walk. First of all, my posture is much better. And my feet feel stronger and more comfortable somehow.
I've also been reading about free electrons in the earth being transferred through our bodies through our bare feet. We miss out on this when we wear shoes, and also lose part of our "connection" with the earth. It's all very fascinating.

Secondly, I've been getting interested in Kombucha... I determined that I wanted to start taking a probiotic again (used to drink Kefir, but I've since given up dairy. Not to mention the Kefir that I drank was probably highly pasteurized, rendering it pretty much useless) and Kombucha seems like a pretty good thing. I know it's not as "paleo" as high meat, but I don't believe everything has to be paleo for it to be good. I do believe some (perhaps not many) post-paleo discoveries have been good things. But anyway, I bought some pre-bottled Kombucha to see how I like it, but I plan on culturing my own soon, as I've read that many people believe Kombucha is something to be shared, not made a profit from, and there is something very noble in that.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 26, 2008, 01:16:18 am
I've also just decided to lower my fruit intake a lot, and eat more leafy greens instead. I might have only one or two bananas on most days, in the morning and have that be it. Not only do I think leafy greens are more nutritious, but I'm noticing that all these fruits added up get pretty expensive. Now I'll have more money for more meat! mmmmmmmmm.


but come to think of it, organic greens are pretty expensive as well.
I'll have to do some comparing and think about it.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 26, 2008, 09:39:57 pm
Saturday, July 26

Just got back from the gym. Workout goes as follows:

1. Squats:             165x10                   165x10                  165x8
2. Chin-ups:           Bodyweightx5         -50lbs x 6              -70lbs x 5  (ran outta steam fast on these!)
3. Decline Barbell
   Bench Press:       115x10                  115x10                  115x6
4. Calf Raise:          70x9                     70x10                    95x7
5. Hammer Curls:     30x8                     30x5                     25x5
6. Close-grip Bench: 85x9                     85x8                     85x8
7. Leg Lifts:            10x9                     10x7   


Alright, so Monday is when it gets exciting... when I can see if I've made any strength improvements from the previous week's workout.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 30, 2008, 06:54:08 am
Monday July 28

Well, pretty much every lift went up from last week, especially Leg press (my legs gain muscle and strength much faster than the rest of my body) so that is good news. Hopefully this continues, and with an ample amount of grass-fed fat and protein, I see no reason why it shouldn't!

Numbers in parentheses are from last week, for comparison (only first set)

1. Bench Press:                         125x10 (115x10)         125x7             115x6
2. Leg Press:                             380x9  (340x9)          380x9              380x8
3. Pulldown:                              120x10 (120x9)          120x8             120x5
4. Standing Dumbbell Press:          25x8   (20x12)           25x7               25x6
5. Pushdown:                             130x8  (130x7)          130x5             120x4
6. Preacher Curls                         70x9   (70x8)            70x6               70x2
7. Weighted Crunch:                     20x10 (20x10)          20x8
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 31, 2008, 04:00:23 am
Wednesday July 30

Went up in pretty much everything from last week again. Very cool. Numbers in parentheses are from last week.

1. Bent-over row:                     85x11(80x10)             85x9             85x9
2. Incline Dumbbell Press:           35x11(35x10)             35x10           35x7
3. Stiff-leg Deadlift:                  135x11(135x10)          135x10         135x6
4. Barbell Curl:                         60x9(50x11)                60x7            60x5
5. Dips:                                   10(9)                           7                 5
6. Shrugs:                               155x8(145x8)              155x6           155x5
7. Leg Extension:                     260x9(220x7)               260x8           260x7
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Satya on July 31, 2008, 07:38:48 am
4. Calf Raise:          70x9                     70x10                    95x7


I take it those were seated calf raises from Saturday?  Gawd I love drumsticks.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on July 31, 2008, 08:14:00 am
Yep, seated calf raise.
Not quite getting the drumstick reference though.  ???

Oh.... wait now I get it  8)
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 03, 2008, 04:21:03 am
Friday August 1

Numbers in parentheses are from last week


1. Squat:                                185x10(165x10)                     185x9                        185x6
2. Chin-up:                               -50x8                                  -50x6                        -70x6  (seem to run outta steam quickly on these!)
3. Decline Barbell press:              125x10(115x10)                    125x8                        125x5
4. Seated Calf-raise:                  105x9(70x9)                        105x7                         105x6
5. Hammer Curl:                         30x8(30x8)                         30x6(30x5)                   30x5(25x5)
6. Close-grip bench press:           95x9(85x9)                          95x8                            95x7
7. Weighted Leg-lifts:                  10x10(10x9)                        10x7


Alright, cool. So starting Monday, I'm moving the first three exercises of each workout to four sets of 6-8 reps, instead of 3 sets of 8-10 reps, allowing me to go a little bit heavier. Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 04, 2008, 09:19:55 pm
Monday, August 4

Didn't have as good of a workout as usual... I'm thinking it's because I didn't get the best night of sleep last night because my family was being loud and it kept me up. Ohhhhhhh well, it wasn't a horrible workout!  :)
Moved the first three exercises up to shooting for 4 sets of 6-8 reps. I keep my rests in between sets pretty short so by the time I hit the fourth set it's hard to hit that rep-range with the same weight that I did the first set with. I imagine it will be even harder in two weeks when I go 5x5.
Nevertheless, I've definitely made strength improvements since I've started, and I can't wait to take pictures in another two weeks because I've definitely gained size as well. When I first started I was around 150-153 lbs, now I'm 167.

1. Bench Press:                        135x7          135x6              135x5               125x6
2. Leg Press:                           430x8           430x8              430x7               430x6
3. Pulldown:                            130x8           130x7              130x6                130x5
4. Standing Dumbbell Press:       25x9             25x7                25x6
5. Pushdown:                          130x9           130x6              130x4
6. Preacher Curls:                    70x9              70x7               70x4
7. Weighted Crunch:                25x10


Hopefully I can get some better sleep tonight and tomorrow night and have an awesome workout on Wednesday!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: rawlion on August 04, 2008, 09:57:14 pm

Hi Keith

Congratulations on your progress! It is nice to hear/see you are doing well.

I just wanted to ask how much time on average do you spend exercising?

Yuri
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 06, 2008, 11:51:53 pm
Thanks Yuri!!
I typically spend one hour in the gym. I'm a big believer in "get in and get out"... short but intense workouts.

Wednesday August 06

Had a better workout today than on Monday, as I had more and better sleep (I achieved lucidity in my dream last night!).
I was kind of frustrated because when I do my stiff-legged deadlifts, my grip strength goes out before my leg strength does... but oh well, my grip strength will just have to get stronger!


1. Barbell Row:                       100x8          100x8         100x6           100x6
2. Incline Dumbbell Press:         45x9            45x6           45x5             40x5
3. Stiff-leg Deadlift:                 175x9          175x6         155x6            155x4
4. Barbell Curl:                         60x9           60x8            60x6
5. Dips:                                  10                7                 6
7. Shrugs:                              155x10         155x7           155x6
8. Leg Extension:                     280x10          280x8          280x7
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 09, 2008, 10:39:43 pm
Saturday August 09

Well, I kind of hurt myself in the gym today. It was on the last set of Decline Bench Presses... a pain shot through the left side of my neck when I lifted the bar off of the rack. After I re-racked the bar and stood up, it hurt a bit when I rotated my head in certain ways. If I was smart and careful, I probably would have called it a day. But sometimes I am neither of those things, so I continued my workout. Thankfully most of the pain had subsided by the end of my workout, and it hurts only a small amount when I rotate my head as I am sitting here typing this.
I think I should start stretching my neck more and hopefully avoid further injury. Other than that it was a fairly good workout.


1. Squat:                        195x8               195x8          195x6                195x6
2. Chin-up:                      -60x8                -60x8          -60x7                -60x4
3. Decline Bench press:      135x8               135x7            135x6              135x4
4. Seated Calf Raise:          115x8              115x7            115x7
5. Hammer Curls:                 30x8              30x7              30x6
6. Close-grip Bench press:    105x8             105x8            105x7
7. Hanging leg lift:               10x10             10x9


As for now, I'm sitting here enjoying some nice beef liver, waiting for my ground beef to get to room temperature from the fridge.
I LOVE MEAT!!!!!!! lol


Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Satya on August 10, 2008, 06:25:45 am
Keith,

Your pain is a warning.  I would rest and stretch for at least 4 days without doing any chest work or anything that may end you up in a doctor office.  I cannot comment on your form, but since you were lifting from the rack, perhaps having a spotter is a good choice for awhile. 

I can comment on your schedule.  You are doing, correct me if I am wrong, a total body workout every other 1-2 days.  How about  trying to split it up?  I personally have seen the best results in bodybuilders (I have never been that focused on bodybuilding myself, but I am a former personal trainer who spent 20+ years of her life working in gyms & health clubs) is training one body part no more than once a week.  Just do chest on one day.  Do push ups, flyes, incline, flat & decline chest press, cable crossovers.  Just beat the crap outta the pecs (tris and frontal deltoids will get hit a decent amount too).  Next day, do abs.  Then back.  Then shoulders.  Then bis & tris.  Then legs (compound movements mainly).  Then rest. 

If you don't like that, then do chest, tris and abs one day.  Rest.  Back, bis, forearms and delts.  Rest.  Legs. Repeat.

Anyway, best wishes on an injury-free workout.

Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 10, 2008, 07:20:45 am
Yeah, rest sounds like a good idea  :-\

As for my schedule, I've done both full-body and split-body routines and find that they both have their place.
I decided to go with a full-body routine this time, while I was first getting back into it, to take full advantage of the "newbie" gains that come with starting a routine after a long period of not workout out.
When I change up my routine in another few weeks it will definitely be a split-body routine.
I like to have at least one day in between my workouts, as from what I've read it takes ~24 hours for the muscles to repair, but ~48 hours for the CNS to fully recover. So I've always done plans like the second one you mentioned, always being sure to hit at least one large muscle group per workout.

So, looks like I'll be resting for a couple days.

Thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 10, 2008, 08:07:15 am
Oh, and regarding my form, I am sure it was not that. I always make sure to use correct form, lifting in a smooth, controlled manner.
I was on a decline bench, and removing the bar from the rack is more difficult than doing the press itself, because your shoulders are rotated back quite a bit. The pain occurred while lifting the weight up, not while actually performing the lift.

I took a short nap earlier, and woke up in worse pain than when I went to sleep. Grrrrrr.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Raw Kyle on August 11, 2008, 01:39:49 am
Maybe you shouldn't do declines with a rack? I remember feeling very weak taking the bar off of the pegs with incline, almost like it was going to fall down.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 11, 2008, 02:20:35 am
Yeah, maybe you're right. I just want to clarify, when I say rack, I mean the bar holder that the decline bench is attached to. I don't mean a squat rack or anything like that. It's actually really annoying when people use the squat rack to do curls and the like.

But yeah, I was thinking about either switching to doing declines with dumbbells, or asking someone for a spot while removing the bar from now on.

The bass player in the band at church is a chiropractor and I got him to take a look at my neck. He had me lay down on the floor and gave my neck a nice twist, and it feels a lot better and I have more mobility back. Still hurts a bit though.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 13, 2008, 01:08:29 am
Tuesday August 12

Alright, so I decided I've had enough rest and it was time to get back in the gym!
I'm glad I did because I had a GREAT workout this morning. I felt very strong and full of energy. My lifts went up a bit from last week as well.


1. Bench Press:                       135x8(135x7)            135x8(135x6)         135x7(135x5)          135x5(125x6)
2. Leg Press:                           450x8(430x8)            450x8(430x8)         450x8(430x7)          450x6(430x6)
3. Pulldown:                             130x8(130x8)           130x8(130x7)          130x7(130x6)         130x6(130x5)
4. Standing Dumbbell Press:        30x8  (25x9)              30x8 (25x7)              30x4 (25x6)
5. Pushdown:                           130x9 (130x9)           130x8 (130x6)           130x6 (130x4)b
6. Preacher Curls:                     70x9 (70x9)               70x8 (70x7)              70x6  (70x4)
7. Weighted Crunches:              30x10                        30x5
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Satya on August 13, 2008, 01:19:49 am
What time do you workout?  I so love morning workouts ... of any kind.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 13, 2008, 01:23:30 am
Well I usually try to workout as early as possible... around 7 am usually. It's also nice because there are less people in the gym than later on.

However, on this parTICular morning, I was a bit slow and didn't make it to the gym until around 11 am.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 15, 2008, 01:12:45 am
Thursday August 14

Feeling great, had a good workout. I decided that I'm going to have to break out my wrist straps for stiff-legged deadlifts because I am just getting frustrated with not being able to hold on to that weight long enough to exhaust my hamstrings! Oh, and I'm finally strong enough to add weight to my dips! Not very much, and not as much as I used to be able to do, but it's still nice to be able to use more than just bodyweight.


1. Bent-over Row:                   110x8               110x8              110x6              110x5
2. Incline Dumbbell Press:         45x8                  45x7                45x7               45x5
3. Stiff-legged Deadlift:            175x8               175x8              175x5             155x6
4. Barbell Curl:                         70x8                70x6                 60x7
5. Weighted Dips:                     20x9                 20x7                20x5
6. Shrugs:                             165x9                 165x7              165x6
7. Leg Extension:                    300x8                 300x8               300x7


In other news, I was hit by a car today while riding my bike. Thankfully the lady was going slow and I didn't sustain any injury other than scratching up my right shin a little bit. I was riding along and I saw her pull up to a perpendicular intersection and she stopped at the stop sign, buuuuuuut I guess she didn't see me or wasn't paying attention because just as I was approaching the intersection she pulled out and bumped right into me!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Satya on August 15, 2008, 02:58:24 am
In other news, I was hit by a car today while riding my bike. Thankfully the lady was going slow and I didn't sustain any injury other than scratching up my right shin a little bit. I was riding along and I saw her pull up to a perpendicular intersection and she stopped at the stop sign, buuuuuuut I guess she didn't see me or wasn't paying attention because just as I was approaching the intersection she pulled out and bumped right into me!

OMG Keith, I am glad you are not injured.  Damn it, wear bright clothes ... or better yet, no clothes, then you are sure to get noticed!  You are SO fortunate to have not ended up in ER (Hospital).  I bet it shook you up some.

Back in the 80s in So Cal, I rode my bike for about 6 months without a car, going to work 8 miles away, and otherwise dealing with Orange County traffic daily.  One Sunday, I rode to a friend's house.  While on a residential street, a door on a car with one of those opaque murals on the back swung open and I hit it with my arm, flew 15' and landed in the street.  The lady driver did NOT look in her side view mirror, as I always looked for signs of danger like that.  I rode in an ambulance and was told my humorus was broken.  It hurt like hell.  But guess what?  It wasn't broken.  I had been pretty active physically and was eating fish, meat, chicken livers (cooked) and salad as staples.  I am disfigured from it in that my tricep has an unnaturally deep cut on that side.  But it swelled so much and the doctors were all amazed that the x-ray showed nothing.  I got some money out of that experience, which was good as my racing bike needed a lot of work!

Anyway, be careful out there and make sure these ladies see you ... whatever it takes.  ;)
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Satya on August 15, 2008, 03:19:01 am
PS.  I once got the distinct irritation of being slapped on my ass by some guy travelling at 45 mph on a highway while I rode on my bike at about 30 mph.  I almost lost it into traffic, and it stung.  Between that and some other incidents of sexual abuse (like in college by a physics professor), is it any wonder why I am so anti-sexist?
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 15, 2008, 05:59:21 am
OMG Keith, I am glad you are not injured.  Damn it, wear bright clothes ... or better yet, no clothes, then you are sure to get noticed!  You are SO fortunate to have not ended up in ER (Hospital).  I bet it shook you up some.

Back in the 80s in So Cal, I rode my bike for about 6 months without a car, going to work 8 miles away, and otherwise dealing with Orange County traffic daily.  One Sunday, I rode to a friend's house.  While on a residential street, a door on a car with one of those opaque murals on the back swung open and I hit it with my arm, flew 15' and landed in the street.  The lady driver did NOT look in her side view mirror, as I always looked for signs of danger like that.  I rode in an ambulance and was told my humorus was broken.  It hurt like hell.  But guess what?  It wasn't broken.  I had been pretty active physically and was eating fish, meat, chicken livers (cooked) and salad as staples.  I am disfigured from it in that my tricep has an unnaturally deep cut on that side.  But it swelled so much and the doctors were all amazed that the x-ray showed nothing.  I got some money out of that experience, which was good as my racing bike needed a lot of work!

Anyway, be careful out there and make sure these ladies see you ... whatever it takes.  ;)

Thanks for the concern!  :)  I'm glad I was not injured too!
I actually was not wearing a shirt, and I was in bright blue shorts and my bike is bright red. I honestly don't think it mattered WHAT I was wearing, I think the lady was just in lala land.

To tell the truth I wasn't really that shaken up by it. It wasn't that bad. I guess I roll with the punches pretty well... or in this case, the tires!

And jeez louise, your situation sounds just like from a movie or something! I am glad the same fate did not befall me (flying 15' off my bike) and I'm truly glad that you were not disabled!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 16, 2008, 10:17:07 pm
Saturday August 16

Well, I just got back a little bit ago from another GREAT workout. My lifts increased on a lot of exercises and I felt full of energy.
I also got someone to give me a spot on those decline presses so that I didn't hurt my neck again!


1. Squat:                             200x8 (195x8)         200x8 (195x8)          200x7 (195x6)        200x6 (195x6)
2. Chin-up (assisted):             -50x8 (-60x8)          -50x8(-60x8)           -50x6 (-60x7)         -60x6 (-60x4)
3. Decline Bench Press:           135x9 (135x8)        150x8 (135x7)          150x7 (135x6)        150x6 (135x4)
4. Seated Calf Raise:              125x7 (115x8)        125x7 (115x7)          125x7 (115x7)
5. Hammer Curl:                     30x9   (30x8)          30x7 (30x7)              30x5 (30x6)
6. Close-grip bench press:       115x8 (105x8)         115x6(105x8)          115x4 (105x7)
7. Weighted leg lifts:               10x11                      10x8

I just ate two nice juicy organic plums. I used to dislike plums as a kid, probably because they weren't sweet enough. But now I love 'em!
Then later on throughout the day I'll be eating my 3 lbs. of beef as usual, as well as some lamb kidney and perhaps some eggs. And I also eat some pickles and some leafy greens as well.

My cravings for non-paleo foods are all but gone. Very sweet things just aren't appetizing anymore. The other day I was in the store, and I thought to myself "Hey, I've been doing great with eating, I'll get myself a Larabar." A Larabar is a raw, all-natural food bar that uses only nuts and dried fruit. They are very sweet though. I used to eat them all the time after I went raw, but before really getting into raw animal foods. So, I got to them, looked at them, and remembered how they tasted. The thought of eating something so sweet (they use dried dates and cherries and such) was actually kind of repulsive. So I passed them up.... and went and ate some meat! Grrr!

I leave my parents' house and go back to school this friday. I can't wait! But now that it's so close, I'm kind of hoping it takes its time to get here! Weird.

I can only imagine how people will respond to my raw meat eating habits. This'll be fun.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Raw Kyle on August 16, 2008, 11:10:07 pm
Will you be able to stay on your same diet at school?
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 16, 2008, 11:56:24 pm
Yeah, I should be able to. I'll have to go out of my way for some things, such as leaving work early on days that my meat order comes in so that it doesn't sit in the mail room overnight (the post office closes at 5 and I work until 6), and I think I might have to buy a small freezer to keep in my room because I just don't think the one in our kitchen will be big enough to fit all my meat as well as whatever my suitemates will have.

But other than just the added pressures of going out to eat and stuff (the best pizza joint in the world is just down the block!), there shouldn't be any problem in that regard.

Oh and good news!
I just got an email the other day that starting this year students at my college now have full access to a 24-hour gym. Which is great because the "gym" that was on-campus last year was seriously lacking, plus they took away all the dumbbells because it's on the second floor of a phone company and people wouldn't stop dropping the dumbbells. AND there would always be a weight-lifting class in there in the mornings, and you're not allowed in there when there's a class going on. So I'm really happy about this.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 18, 2008, 11:47:47 pm
Monday August 18

Today I started the 5x5-6 for the first three exercises.


1. Bench Press:                                  150x5          150x5         150x5             150x5              150x5
2. Leg Press:                                     500x7          500x6          500x6            500x6               500x5
3. Lat Pulldown:                                 140x7          150x6          150x6            150x5               150x4
4. Standing Dumbbell Shoulder Press:     35x8            35x6            30x5
5. Pushdown:                                    140x9          110x8 (reverse grip)  110x7 (reverse grip)
6. Preacher Curl:                               75x8            75x7             75x4
7. Weighted Crunch:                           30x10          30x5



I was surprised at my bench press... I did the first set and thought "There's no way I'll be able to do 5 reps for all of the 5 sets with this weight", as I reached failure on the fifth rep of the first set. I thought I was gonna have to lower the weight at some point. Surprisingly I was able to push out 5 reps each time.


Four days til I move back to school!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Raw Kyle on August 19, 2008, 12:43:57 am
When I started lifting weights after eating raw meat I found that my bench press went back up to as much as it was before on SAD but my legs never recovered. I still would like more weight in my legs proportionate to the rest of me, but I'm trying to gain all over as well.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 19, 2008, 12:53:11 am
Hmm, I'm the opposite. My legs have always been much stronger in proportion to my upper body. Before I stopped working out for 2 years I used to squat 330 for reps and leg press around 800.
My arms are downright tiny compared to the rest of my body. But my back and my legs grow very quickly.
Are you currently weight training? You should put your routine up in your journal.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Raw Kyle on August 20, 2008, 01:03:57 pm
I'm training with kettlebells, but I'm still getting down my routine with them and don't have a solid one yet.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: xylothrill on August 20, 2008, 02:02:08 pm
Hmm, I'm the opposite. My legs have always been much stronger in proportion to my upper body. Before I stopped working out for 2 years I used to squat 330 for reps and leg press around 800.
My arms are downright tiny compared to the rest of my body. But my back and my legs grow very quickly.
Are you currently weight training? You should put your routine up in your journal.

I find the same thing with my lower body - the only exception being my hamstrings. I can max out on all of the leg machines on my quads, leg presses and calf raises but my hamstrings are pretty weak. Also, I have a larger back and traps compared to the pushing muscles such as my pecs, which seem small to me. They are week too.

From your pics, you're arms aren't small. I think every serious bodybuilder has body dysmorphia to an extent.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 21, 2008, 12:15:59 am
Craig, you perhaps are right. I don't think so though  ;D  :P

Wednesday August 20

Had a decent workout today. My mind wasn't as focused today as it normally is... damn when there are pretty girls in the gym when I'm trying to workout!! It makes concentrating much harder.  :P

I started using lifting straps on stiff-legged deadlifts today. Well, actually the first few sets I tried to, but I totally forgot how to use them! I'm very not smart sometimes! I had to ask someone to remind me how to use the straps. But anyway, I was finally able to use them on the last couple sets.

1. Bent-over Row:                 125x6           125x6        125x5          125x5           125x5
2. Incline Dumbbell Press:         50x7             50x6         50x5            50x5             50x5
3. Stiff-leg Deadlift:              185x6             185x6        185x6          205x5           205x6
4: Barbell Curl:                     70x9               70x6          70x6
5. Weighted Dips:                 25x10              25x7          25x5
6. Shrugs:                           175x9              175x7         175x6
7. Leg Extension:                  305x10            305x10       305x7


Went to the store on the way home to pick up some plums... they didn't have any ripe ones, so I got some green figs to eat. Man, they were good! The perfect level of sweetness... just a little. I started laughing out loud while eating them... sometimes I do that when I eat fruit. It's just funny, I don't know why. Fruit makes me happy.

Back to college in 2 days!!!

Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: xylothrill on August 21, 2008, 02:05:35 am
What happens when you eat fruit and raw meat at the same time? You must sound like a lunatic!  ;D
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 21, 2008, 02:36:50 am
"nnnggggrrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA.....ungh"

lol. :D

thankfully I always eat them separately!

But, I sound like a lunatic most of the time anyway, so I doubt it matters much!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 23, 2008, 12:23:11 pm
Friday August 22


Well, I just moved back to college!
It's soooo weird! It feels like I never really left, like summer went by in an instant!!

Unfortunately, with all the hustle and bustle of packing and moving, I missed my workout today. So hopefully I'll be able to get in the gym tomorrow, the one that students are now allowed to use. Hopefully there's a squat rack, and no stupid rules like no deadlifting!

I'm looking forward to this semester greatly.
I feel a lot more sociable since going raw paleo. Which is weird, because raw paleo in and of itself is not very sociable!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on August 25, 2008, 10:36:52 pm
Monday August 25

Well, I wasn't able to make up Friday's missed workout because today was the first day students were allowed to use the gym. But that's okay. I went this morning and the gym is very nice. it's very clean and visually pleasing, and I'm pretty sure it has everything I need.
The only thing is I miss the ruggedness of my old gym. This gym uses weights made from plastic or rubber or something like that. My old gym has nothing but cold hard steel!

I went up in some lifts, and down in others. Kind of strange.


1. Bench Press:                        150x6          150x5          150x5         150x4              150x4
2. Leg Press:                            520x8          520x7          520x6         520x6              520x6
3. Pulldown:                             145x7          145x7          145x6         145x5              145x5
4. Standing Dumbbell Press:          35x8          35x6            35x5
5. Pushdown*:                           60x9           60x5           40x6 (reverse grip)
6. Preacher Curls:                       75x8            75x7           75x3
7. Weighted Crunch:                  30x10           30x5


*Uses a different pulley system, so it's harder which is why the weight is so much less than last week




My job starts today, my classes start tomorrow! Criminy!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 08, 2008, 08:32:58 am
Alright, so it's been a while since I've posted in this journal.
I've been pretty busy with work and classes and friends and music and whatnot.
I've been to the gym twice since I've posted, but each time I cut my workout short because the gym didn't have the equipment that I needed.
They don't have a barbell that fits in the squat rack, which really sucks because squats are so essential to all of my lifting plans. They also don't have a belt that you can add weight to, so I can't do weighted dips or anything like that.
I'm going to try to talk to a manager or something at the gym about this, but the time when I went in there was only one guy there and he wasn't helpful at all.

Enough complaining though  :)   I decided after that to take a week off from lifting, and devise a new lifting plan that I could do at this new gym. So I start up again tomorrow morning with my new routine.

I've been doing a lot of biking and going to the beach and fishing, and running around playing frisbee this past week. I've also been eating less (2 lbs. of meat a day instead of 3)  so I think I've dropped a little bit of bodyfat, which is cool. I can't wait to keep getting bigger again though!


I've been dealing with some health issues lately. I might make a post about them in the health forum if they don't clear up in the next couple days. Hopefully they will.  :)

So, tomorrow I will resume posting my workouts. Yay!

Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 08, 2008, 08:33:45 pm
Monday September 08

Alright, back in the gym this morning! I had a great workout.
I weighed myself expecting to have lost some weight, but I was actually a tiny bit heavier. Which is totally fine by me.
I'm on a split routine now, and today was chest, triceps, and shoulders.


Dumbbell Press:              55x12           55x9              55x8             55x7
Skull-crushers:               35x12           35x9              35x8             35x8
Incline DB Flyes:             30x10           30x9              30x8
Decline DB Press:            50x9             50x8              50x8
Lateral Shoulder Raises:   20x9             20x7              20x6
Tricep Kickbacks:           15x10            15x9              15x9
Weighted leg lifts:          10x10            10x8

Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 11, 2008, 01:12:56 am
Wednesday September 10

Leg Day:

Leg Press:             450x10            450x9          450x8           450x7            450x7
Stiff-legged DL:      225x8               225x8          225x7         225x8
Leg Extension:       150x11              150x10        150x8
Hamstring Curl:      100x10               100x7          90x8
Incline Crunch:      30x11                 30x5           30x4
Calf Raise:             180x20              270x12        270x10         (done on leg press)
Lunge:                  90x8                  90x8                             (for each leg, alternately)



Walking up and down stairs today for classes has been pretty tought lol
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 20, 2008, 10:38:31 pm
Well, I didn't update with my last two workouts, and then I took a couple days off because I was just so darn tired due to my eyes adjusting to not wearing glasses (I'm still not 100%), but I did make it into the gym this morning, and had a pretty good leg workout.

This morning I visited to local farmer's market. I bought two plums and ate them while lying down in the grass. It was momentary bliss.
Then I went to the 100% Grass-fed Beef stand, which I've passed up before because I noticed their prices are pretty high, higher than what I pay for getting it shipped to me. Plus their selection isn't too great either. They have a few cuts of steak, ground beef, liver, marrow bones, and oxtail. That's about it.
I went up and asked them if they'd be able to sell me any other organs other than liver, and they said they'd be able to get the heart back from the processor. I asked about adrenals and brains, and things like that, and they said there was no way they could get those back. Such a shame.
So, I bought a pound of ground-beef from them (it was $6!!!) because I figured, "hey, these are my local grass-fed beef people, they're doing a good thing, I should help them out at least a little bit."
I hope it tastes good!

Also, last week, I bought a pound of local grass-fed ground beef from EarthFare (a natural grocery store that has stores in the SE united states). I don't think it was from the same place. I didn't like it as much as what I get delivered to me, but I think that's because it didn't have as much fat.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 24, 2008, 12:11:13 pm
Gahhhhhh, I can't sleep. I'm so restless.
Tomorrow, I'm planning on (hopefully) asking the girl I like out.
I might chicken out... I've never asked a girl out on a date before.
I mean, I've had a girlfriend but that just kind of happened, I never really asked her out.
This is something completely new.
Man oh man oh man, I'm nervous and I just need to get this out in writing haha!
I'm a complete buffoon when it comes to girls I like.
I'm (hopefully) going to ask her to be my date to a symphony on Saturday night.
Ahhhhhhhhh I can't even think straight.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Squall on September 24, 2008, 12:21:34 pm
Good luck on asking this girl out! I'd like to offer any tips I can, but really its just a matter of confidence ... and experience, lol. Just don't tell her about how much you love those raw lamb hearts  ;).
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 24, 2008, 12:35:00 pm
Good luck on asking this girl out! I'd like to offer any tips I can, but really its just a matter of confidence ... and experience, lol. Just don't tell her about how much you love those raw lamb hearts  ;).

oh god that's a whole other issue right there!  ;D
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Raw Kyle on September 24, 2008, 08:40:49 pm
Good luck. How do you know her?
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Kristelle on September 27, 2008, 11:02:26 pm
Tell her you're nervous...it might just help you get through it...and if she's worth the "pursuit", she'll actually be flattered and find you kind of cute for being nervous. Best of luck!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on September 27, 2008, 11:53:23 pm
Good luck. How do you know her?

She's in one class of mine each day.

Thanks for the advice Kristelle!
However, I did ask her to the symphony the other day (along with some other people so as to not seem too forward) but she said she already had a date. Ah, well.  ;D
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Satya on October 03, 2008, 10:30:55 am
Keith,

I would love to see a full back shot of you.  Perhaps soon you will have a photographer friend to capture your tremendous gains for all of us to enjoy?
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 03, 2008, 07:50:35 pm
Sure thing Satya... I figured out how to use the delay function on my camera phone so I'll probably be able to do it myself one of these days.


Anyway, I wanted to post here about the experience I just had, instead of continuing to clutter up the other thread I was posting in about it.

I just ate four chunks of my heart meat that I've been letting sit.
I have no way of knowing whether it was truly "high" or just spoiled, I just know that it smelled really bad.

Thankfully, the taste wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Don't get me wrong, the taste was pretty bad. It just wasn't as strong as I thought it would be. I bolted it down with mineral water, not chewing at all. It was so slimy I don't think that chewing was at all necessary. Thank goodness for the mineral water though, as I'm not so sure I could've done it without it.

For the first few minutes after I ate it, I felt kind of ill. But I'm pretty sure that was all mental, like "What did I just do to myself?"
After the intial sick feeling, I felt GREEEEAT! Which could have been all in my mind too, but who cares right?

The main thing I'm hoping that eating high meat will do for me is help with my digestion, which I do not believe is up to par.

I still have quite a bit left, which I'm sure will just get more and more gross until I finish it.  -\
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: TylerDurden on October 04, 2008, 07:05:25 pm
"High-meat" does help improve digestion when one has to eat a cooked-food meal.

I'm surprised that you got such instantaneous effects. I always take c.12-24 hours(the next day) to experience the effects of "high-meat".

Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Nicola on October 04, 2008, 10:38:48 pm
The main thing I'm hoping that eating high meat will do for me is help with my digestion, which I do not believe is up to par.

Sorry, I am the digestive questionnaire. -X..it seams...many may/do have problems and put up with them or call them detox I think. If we can talk about "deep down problems" we will learn and be able to understand life I believe.

What are your problems and what is your understanding of them (our mind is connected to our digestive system)!

Thank you
Nicola
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 05, 2008, 01:51:08 am
Well, I often get constipated. It'll feel like I have to poo, but nothing will happen.
And then the times when I do poo, it's hard to get out and the stools are quite small. It feels as if I should be passing much larger stools considering the amount I am eating.

However, the other day I ate a large piece of raw liver, and shortly thereafter I had diarrhea (a whole lot came out all at once  -[) and I felt very cleansed. The next time I went poo after that, it was a normal movement. That was yesterday, and I haven't gone since then.

Perhaps I am not eating enough organs for the amount of muscle meat/fat that I am eating? Would that be something that could make a difference, or could it be coincidence?


(sorry for all the details, but you did encourage me to talk about "deep down problems" lol!)
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Nicola on October 05, 2008, 04:54:31 am
Well, I often get constipated. It'll feel like I have to poo, but nothing will happen.
And then the times when I do poo, it's hard to get out and the stools are quite small. It feels as if I should be passing much larger stools considering the amount I am eating.

However, the other day I ate a large piece of raw liver, and shortly thereafter I had diarrhea (a whole lot came out all at once  -[) and I felt very cleansed. The next time I went poo after that, it was a normal movement. That was yesterday, and I haven't gone since then.

Perhaps I am not eating enough organs for the amount of muscle meat/fat that I am eating? Would that be something that could make a difference, or could it be coincidence?


(sorry for all the details, but you did encourage me to talk about "deep down problems" lol!)

I do not think that organs are the answer to how, when and what passes threw or even to "better" health; you should find out as much as you can by following what other "meat and water" paleos have to say (Lex has even had his word of wisdom...):

http://www.livinlowcarbdiscussion.com/showthread.php?tid=1514&page=2

Charles will start a new sight on "zero carb meat and water".

I don't know how stools can be hard on raw meat and you are not eating cheese...perhaps you need more fat? Perhaps some marrow with your muscle meat?

Don't worry poo is part of all humans (animals) and every body believes the next person understands things better; I bet many have problems/questions and don't own up to them.


Nicola
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Kristelle on October 05, 2008, 06:31:35 am
In my case, I was constipated due to fat malabsorption.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 05, 2008, 07:02:46 am
Do you still have fat malabsorption? If not, how did you fix it?
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 06, 2008, 07:26:28 pm
Pleaase?  ;D
I could really use some help here!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: wodgina on October 06, 2008, 08:58:09 pm
I've had fat malabsorption (fatty runny stools not constipation) especially at the first year or so and disappeared when I went raw carnivore. I think for there were 2 causes, the first cause was over eating which I tend to do and I think is just natural especially with an over abundance of food like we have.

The second and which I think more likely was the culprit was from too much of the wrong gut animals from eating way to many carbs and fruit.

Mine came back the other day and I still can't decide whether it was from eating too much/ because I cheated earlier that day or detox ???

also for the first year so I would not digest the the chewy bits of suet, this fixed it self over time.

Constipation can also be some sort of liver detox IMO.

Andrew
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 09, 2008, 12:40:59 am
Well, my order from Tropical Traditions arrived today...
a smorgasbord of grass-fed bison organs, including many organs I've never tried from any animal.
I got:
Tongue
Liver
Spleen
Adrenals
Kidneys
Thymus glands
Pancreas
Thyroid glands
and Heart

I can't wait to try them all!

It was sold as pet food. Ha.





Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 11, 2008, 08:44:59 am
today wasn't the best day...

i was at work and I sliced my finger open with a knife...
had to go to the ER and get 5 stitches in my finger.

Totally sucks, as I don't know how long it'll be before I'm able to play guitar or piano again. Plus I'm not sure how it will affect working out.
The stitches have to stay in for 10 days.
 :(
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Satya on October 11, 2008, 08:51:03 am
Oh shit, that sucks, Keith!  This kind of thing does happen.  But to a musician ...  :(  Which finger was it on which hand?  Can you flip people off better now at least?   ;D

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.  And might I suggest going to watch musicians and supporting them while you nurse your finger?  Probably better than being frustrated about it alone, eh?
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 11, 2008, 08:54:12 am
It's on the ring finger on the left hand (a fretting finger  :( ). And no, haha, I can't flick off better... worse actually because my ring finger is heavily bandaged so it inevitably sticks out.

That's a good suggestion... probably will do that!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Satya on October 11, 2008, 09:10:03 am
How long have you been playing the piano?  My brother teaches piano full time.  I never learned.  But I can sing on a good day.  I am a good audience for performances, anyway.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: seesawsemiology on October 11, 2008, 01:59:28 pm
today wasn't the best day...

i was at work and I sliced my finger open with a knife...
had to go to the ER and get 5 stitches in my finger.

Totally sucks, as I don't know how long it'll be before I'm able to play guitar or piano again. Plus I'm not sure how it will affect working out.
The stitches have to stay in for 10 days.
 :(

just fill in the fingertip with crazy glue to play , youll be fine! ;)
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 17, 2008, 01:50:59 am
well thankfully it wasn't very long at all before I was able to play both instruments again.
Piano I can play just fine, and guitar with only a little hindrance.


On another note, I'm kind of annoyed.
I asked my roommates at the beginning of the year if they would be buying any freezer foods,  because if they were then I could buy myself a small freezer to keep all of my meat in.
They said they wouldn't be, so I was able to not buy a freezer and use the one that's in the kitchen.
I have a large order coming from Slanker's tomorrow, and last night I open the freezer and one of my roommates bought a whole bunch of freezer foods. Now I don't know where I'm going to put my meat that's coming tomorrow that won't fit.
</rant>

it's all good though, something will work out
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 28, 2008, 12:43:03 am
I just got back from the gym for the first time in over 2 weeks, since I injured my finger.

DAMN does it feel good!!  :D

I didn't lose any strength at all, in fact I felt stronger than ever.
I attribute this fully to my RPD diet.
I love this diet so much!
And I love all you guys as well!
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on October 28, 2008, 07:32:08 pm
I'm especially loving the apparent heightened resistance to cold weather that this diet is bringing me...
I was outside this morning in nothing but mesh shorts and a white undershirt, while other people I saw were all bundled up.
It's like, I know that it is cold and I feel that it is cold, but it just doesn't bother me.
Perhaps it's in my head, but oh well... doesn't really matter since we all know sickness isn't caused by exposure to cold weather anyway.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on November 07, 2008, 09:09:45 am
I'm doing a low-carb/zero-sugar experiment.

I've cut out fruits and honey from my diet for the time being.
I will still be eating green leaves like heart of romaine and spinach, which have a small amount of carbs, but no sugar. Other than that, it's meat, fat, and organs.

I figure I'll try this out for a week or so, and see what I decide from there.
Tomorrow will be day three of zero-sugar.
Not bad so far. I feel fine, in fact today I had a very steady level of energy.
No cravings for carbs at all today, but had small cravings yesterday.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: Nicola on November 07, 2008, 09:58:49 pm
I'm doing a low-carb/zero-sugar experiment.

I've cut out fruits and honey from my diet for the time being.
I will still be eating green leaves like heart of romaine and spinach, which have a small amount of carbs, but no sugar. Other than that, it's meat, fat, and organs.

I figure I'll try this out for a week or so, and see what I decide from there.
Tomorrow will be day three of zero-sugar.
Not bad so far. I feel fine, in fact today I had a very steady level of energy.
No cravings for carbs at all today, but had small cravings yesterday.


I thought you "needed" oranges "to go"? I was looking for oranges in the Swiss woods and fields; couldn't find any so I have to do with out  :o

Nicola
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: boxcarguy07 on November 08, 2008, 12:44:48 am
I thought you "needed" oranges "to go"? I was looking for oranges in the Swiss woods and fields; couldn't find any so I have to do with out  :o

Nicola

Yes, oranges certainly helped, but so do the leafy greens. Spinach especially helps me in that regard.
If I find that I become constipated again (I haven't been constipated at all lately) then I will see about adding fruits back, because I feel like being constipated is one of the easiest ways of bringing yourself into a state of bad health, more so than eating certain fruits that may or may not be optimal.
Title: Re: Keith's Journal
Post by: RawZi on July 13, 2009, 02:56:29 am
Yes, oranges certainly helped, but so do the leafy greens. Spinach especially helps me in that regard.
If I find that I become constipated again (I haven't been constipated at all lately) then I will see about adding fruits back, because I feel like being constipated is one of the easiest ways of bringing yourself into a state of bad health, more so than eating certain fruits that may or may not be optimal.

    I too find that suboptimal fruit, on the rare occasion I eat fruit work fine for me now.  All the good raw fatty animal food must help.  Yes, constipation can be dangerous, even if the constipation was only a short while at the time.  Most fruit don't seem to do anything at all positive for me for that anyway except citrus.  I hope you're doing great!  Are you possibly getting back to journaling soon?

Well, my order from Tropical Traditions arrived today...
a smorgasbord of grass-fed bison organs, including many organs I've never tried from any animal.
I got:
Tongue
Liver
Spleen
Adrenals
Kidneys
Thymus glands
Pancreas
Thyroid glands
and Heart

I can't wait to try them all!

It was sold as pet food. Ha.

    I just ate raw thymus this morning.  It was my first time.  I liked it.  How did you do eating your order?