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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Hot Topics => Topic started by: pioneer on May 24, 2010, 06:05:11 am
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Has anyone had any experiences dating with RPD or primal diet? I want to meet a nice girl that is open minded and would at least try the diet. I'd like to someday raise my kids RPD.
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I haven't been single eating RAF. I find eating certain RAF, like free range raw chicken (not corn nor soy fed), that I get strangers' compliments on the way I smell, in passing outdoors. My partner, although over time has now tried raw cheese and raw cream, is still in no way interested in the diet. He has seen my very marked health improvements though, so about three years in, he said he wholeheartedly agrees that any future children we have we should raise on RAF diet.
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This could be interesting.
I got wives and kids, you could fall in line and take a number, there's room for more.
Females only please.
Apply only if non-contraceptive and you would like to bear children.
Send me a PM. ;)
My paleo philosophy:
"Food is fuel, not entertainment!"
"Sex is for reproduction, not entertainment!"
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This could be interesting.
I got wives and kids, you could fall in line and take a number, there's room for more.
Females only please.
Apply only if non-contraceptive and you would like to bear children.
Send me a PM. ;)
My paleo philosophy:
"Food is fuel, not entertainment!"
"Sex is for reproduction, not entertainment!"
But the TV, movies, magazines tell us sex is for entertainment not for reproduction that's just crazy speak ;)
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"Sex is for reproduction, not entertainment!"
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Not my wev..! -d
(how you came to this strange conclusion, BTW, GS..?)
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"Sex is for reproduction, not entertainment!"
:'(
Not my wev..! -d
(how you came to this strange conclusion, BTW, GS..?)
Basic biology.
Take away the fluff and see it from the point of view of a dispassionate alien scientist, the entire animal kingdom does it.
The THRILL is in the possibility / probability of pregnancy.
The triumphant howl and jump for joy of those 2 red lines on a pregnancy test kit is just so amazingly awesome!
The tail is long... I'll find my niche ;)
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GS,
I don't believe in this theory that we are animals. ;)
We have much in common, yes, but still we are totally different in my view. :)
Sex have something like a very spiritual touch, in my opinion. It can be psychological healing and allows us touch each other on a very deep level. So beautiful.
I'm mean good sex, not just "popping" (sorry, don't know how to explain this in English -\). It melts the frozen soul.. and so I found myself crying after really good sex, not only one time.
Very freeing and so strange, cause it was not that i was sad, it was just so melting, so a wonderful feeling. The ice just melted away in there. :) And the beautiful feeling lasted long time after.
This is why I believe, sex is not only for reproduction. My experiences are different.
But it might be that I think/feel this way because I am a woman. Who knows. ;)
Are there any guys in here who have similar experiences?
Inger
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I don't think it's vital to date other RVAFers. Of course, in the US, it's much easier to do so given the prevalence of Primal Potlucks in various States.
As for above claims re sex, the whole point re experiencing pleasure during sex is to get people to mate, the 2 are not separate they are intricately linked together. For example, it's been shown by studies that women are far more likely to get pregnant if they reach an orgasm.
Inger, judging from your above comments, your husband is clearly a very lucky man! ;)
GS, your 1st post in this thread must be one of the least romantic offers I've ever seen! Only thing as bad was 1 romance-advert I heard about which went something like this:- " farmer seeks marriage with woman owning a tractor. Send photo of tractor."
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experiencing pleasure during sex is to get people to mate, the 2 are not separate they are intricately linked together. For example, it's been shown by studies that women are far more likely to get pregnant if they reach an orgasm.
If the woman orgasms the first time you get "intimate" with her, there's more likely to be more intimacies between the two of you in future. A woman's orgasm may also help the sperm get to the egg, and a successful pregnancy. Men orgasm just about every time. Why are there a few men who are sure that women orgasming is bad? We're all just people. Even a female animal orgasms. I've seen it. Why not women? Are we more spiritual than all people and animals? I don't think we're that alone or holy in that way. Sure we are different than animals and sex is great holy, but we have similarities, and that is not bad, is it? It's just logical and makes sense, not that romance exactly does.
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Umm, I don't actually believe in the notion that sex is only for reproduction. I merely suggested that both genders needed to experience pleasure during sex in order to enhance the likelihood of pregnancy , as 1 example of why sex for pleasure worked out better as a concept.
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GS, your 1st post in this thread must be one of the least romantic offers I've ever seen! Only thing as bad was 1 romance-advert I heard about which went something like this:- " farmer seeks marriage with woman owning a tractor. Send photo of tractor."
But Geoff, among RPDers I'm the one who's got wives and kids... that kind of ad works in my culture... you don't write it out in message boards, you tell it face to face with a smile. Women like experienced men and young looking older men. I'm 40 and pass for 28-30. Women are attracted to bragging playboys.
Oh look at my raw meat eating son... isn't he cute? Wanna have a baby as cute as that?
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re playboys mention:- bad idea to get women based on money as that can get very expensive, these days re divorce settlements etc.. Far better(and cheaper) to rely on other aspects to get women. Besides, the gold-digging women that I've come across, here and there, tend to be rather less pleasant examples of their own gender(what feminists, somewhat overly politely, call "high-maintenance").
As for mention of "wives", I thought you only had 1 so far? Or perhaps you have already converted to Islam so as to take advantage of their polygamy-friendly 4-wives-limit?
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re playboys mention:- bad idea to get women based on money as that can get very expensive, these days re divorce settlements etc.. Far better(and cheaper) to rely on other aspects to get women. Besides, the gold-digging women that I've come across, here and there, tend to be rather less pleasant examples of their own gender(what feminists, somewhat overly politely, call "high-maintenance").
I live in a very different world than yours.
Women who don't care for too much money, just some child support.
Women who just want a child from you whether or not you give money, they just want to have your child.
As for mention of "wives", I thought you only had 1 so far? Or perhaps you have already converted to Islam so as to take advantage of their polygamy-friendly 4-wives-limit?
Sssshhhh, it's all hush hush. How many wives? How many mistresses? How many girlfriends? Women like mystery too.
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I live in a very different world than yours.
Women who don't care for too much money, just some child support.
Women who just want a child from you whether or not you give money, they just want to have your child.
Sssshhhh, it's all hush hush. How many wives? How many mistresses? How many girlfriends? Women like mystery too.
That sounds awesome goodsamaritan!
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Umm, I don't actually believe in the notion that sex is only for reproduction.
No, my mistake. I meant "one" when I wrote "you". I'm sorry.
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Women who just want a child from you whether or not you give money, they just want to have your child.
Would you date them too? Or just make babies? Do the women in your culture make lots of money to support the children themselves? Or do they have their parents and siblings support? The dole/welfare? Do you want them to want you around for more than conception?
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Would you date them too? Or just make babies? Do the women in your culture make lots of money to support the children themselves? Or do they have their parents and siblings support? The dole/welfare? Do you want them to want you around for more than conception?
Date? Get to know them? Spend some time, some romance? Of course.
Do the women here make lots of money? No. It's a family effort. It takes a family and a village to raise children. We still have families and extended families in our culture. And in the provinces, food is cheap and plentiful even without cash.
There is no welfare in my country.
I always want to be in touch with children, raise them, feed them, teach them play with them, cure them when they are sick, take pictures, take them on trips. Children are the best, it's what makes life worth while. And you've gotta have good relations between mommy and daddy and the extended relatives.
Children, they're all good. Children are the glue to relationships. A REAL relationship is a relationship with children involved.
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But back to RPD, it would be great to have an RPD child from the start. I'm sure it will happen one day. The vegans have had theirs. RPDers will have theirs as well.
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Children are the glue to relationships. A REAL relationship is a relationship with children involved.
All that sounds good to me, except this part. I don't consider children glue. They're little people we are honored to care for, that's all. I guess the glue thing must be a hang-up of mine. Maybe I just don't understand what you mean, or you having a child glues you in love.
In the bible there were childless couples. Do childless couples not have relationships, even if they both are happy with each other that way, and in every way? Some of Mohamed's wives didn't bear him children. I don't mean to get religious, just wondering whether that's true, that it's not a relationship without children.
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Thats cool goodsamaritan. But, tell me, what happens to the poor schmucks (men) that dont have wives in your culture? Do they just live all alone while the lucky ones (you) reap all the benefits? Whats the ratio of men to women like?
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I always want to be in touch with children, raise them, feed them, teach them play with them, cure them when they are sick, take pictures, take them on trips. Children are the best, it's what makes life worth while. And you've gotta have good relations between mommy and daddy and the extended relatives.
Children, they're all good.
I am totally with you in this, GS!!!!
That's exactly how I feel.
Even if I am not with you on the part, sex is only for reproduction. Might be it is a cultural thing.
Here are a lot of woman who have to raise their kids alone. That is hard. If it were like in your culture with big family support, everything would change.
In our culture there are males who just want sex and take no responsibility whatsoever.
Not for the woman and even not for the child. It is a totally different world, I suppose.
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I am totally with you in this, GS!!!!
That's exactly how I feel.
Even if I am not with you on the part, sex is only for reproduction. Might be it is a cultural thing.
Here are a lot of woman who have to raise their kids alone. That is hard. If it were like in your culture with big family support, everything would change.
In our culture there are males who just want sex and take no responsibility whatsoever.
Not for the woman and even not for the child. It is a totally different world, I suppose.
Me too. Some men here as well don't care about their children at all, or the women they procreate with. I wouldn't know what they think, they lie about everything. I guess they just know that they can find women that have no support or anti-support, and they do what they will with the same care they'd squash a beetle or walk away from one.
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I got wives and kids, you could fall in line and take a number, there's room for more.
I always want to be in touch with children, raise them, feed them, teach them play with them, cure them when they are sick, take pictures, take them on trips. Children are the best, it's what makes life worth while. And you've gotta have good relations between mommy and daddy and the extended relatives.
Spoken like a true alpha male. Hats off to you my friend.
I'm not concerned about raising a family right now since I'm only 28. I'd rather make a fortune for myself first (I'm aiming at 25-50 million euros). Then somewhere in my 40s I'll start making children with multiple women. Until then I'll just keep having lots of fun with super hot girls and enjoy my new found paleo powers. I couldn't care less about having a RPD relationship, there's tons of beautiful girls out there who are in great shape. But I agree if you have children you should give them the best possible quality of life and not be like ghetto people are (procreate and flee).
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Well, being honest I think being raw of pretty much any persuasion has its limitations in the dating sphere. Even though for myself, and maybe a few others, I don't really care what the woman I'm dating eats, but it inevitably has ramifications for both short and long term relationships.
Most initial dating is based in drinking/dinner etc...the more one goes in a tangent off that 'regular' the more challenged (or inventive) one will have to be.
so I think that conversation is more helpful than above. I know I'm sorta blanked on it. I'm recently single myself, so I'm not exactly chomping at the bit for P*(&@#, but it seems pretty difficult, even in a logistical way when I do start searching.
I guess the last resort is internet-dating (local), I recently checked out one of those sites for the first time ever. I wouldn't know what to fill in for most of the questions that won't pull in all goth chicks. Good thing I'm not ugly.
My only suggestion is I've thought about joining my local cross-fit to meet both friends and potential relationships. I can cook paleo, as long as she doesn't oject to me not eating cooked.
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I'd rather make a fortune for myself first (I'm aiming at 25-50 million euros).
What's your secret? Or are you just dreaming?
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I know I'm sorta blanked on it. I'm recently single myself, so I'm not exactly chomping at the bit for P*(&@#, but it seems pretty difficult, even in a logistical way when I do start searching.
It's not really that difficult. You see a girl you like, you walk up to her, you introduce yourself to her "Hi, nice to meet you I'm KD" (with a big confident smile), you make a small chat and ask for her number. Do this to 10 girls and I guarantee you will get at least 3 numbers in one day. Some are not single so they will turn you down but they are always nice about it and very polite, mostly flattered that someone noticed them.
I don't even bother with that stuff anymore. I just walk up to girls I want and say "You look like trouble!" (with a cocky smile on my face). They know what's going on immediately and light up like candles. You can pretty much have sex the same day if you're communicating the right stuff. I only take girls to drinks if I'm already sleeping with her. It's the complete opposite most guys do who think paying for dinners, drinks, movies is required first. It's not, you do that stuff with girls you already like hanging out with. Stay away from bars and clubs. You meet the best women in everyday life. Nightlife is mostly people who do lots of coke, alcohol and cigarettes.
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>I'd rather make a fortune for myself first (I'm aiming at 25-50 million euros)
What's your secret? Or are you just dreaming?
Study everything you can get your hands on about entrepreneurship and marketing. Study what people like Donald Trump do and other successful entrepreneurs like Richard Branson, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffett, Duncan Bannatyne, Felix Dennis, Nicholas Van Hoogstraten. What you are making a year is only limited by your self concept (the limitations you set up in your head). There are no secrets only hard work and determination not to quit when things get tough. A good starting point is the books of Robert Ringer, Jay Abraham's stuff and Dan Pena's. This will give you a good foundation to start making at least a million a year. A job is a waste of time since you are spending most of your time making the other person rich. You've got to create your own businesses if you are serious about creating wealth for yourself and achieving real freedom. Once you got enough money you can stop working and keep making money from smart investments. I'll probably retire before 40.
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I don't even bother with that stuff anymore. I just walk up to girls I want and say "You look like trouble!" (with a cocky smile on my face). They know what's going on immediately and light up like candles. You can pretty much have sex the same day if you're communicating the right stuff. I only take girls to drinks if I'm already sleeping with her. It's the complete opposite most guys do who think paying for dinners, drinks, movies is required first. It's not, you do that stuff with girls you already like hanging out with. Stay away from bars and clubs. You meet the best women in everyday life. Nightlife is mostly people who do lots of coke, alcohol and cigarettes.
well a few things on that. One, you have to be in some kind of context to meet these women. I used to live in a very urban environment, so this was much easier. Otherwise you have to actually go somewhere or be involved with activities. Two, speaking for myself, I'm sure I could get phone numbers just as I could probably engineer some kind of internet hookups by being vague about things, but I don't think I've ever had even a one night stand that resulted from one-time day time interaction, so at some point the issue of eating raw carcasses is going to come up. Probably prior to intercourse. Any girl I meet, on the street or the market or whatever that invites me over after one interaction or from an internet profile, I'm going to be pretty sketched by. But I agree about what you say otherwise.
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Private Eye has outed Nicholas Van Hoogstraten as a crook, not a good role-model exactly:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_van_Hoogstraten
Apparently, he threatened a local journalist interviewing him with death if the article wasn't fully complimentary and so on...
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Action hero's outlook
'Hey ladies, I may let you hang with me if your lucky heh, I may even take you out again if your nice and put out'
Don't call them back, tease them, be vague, do your own thing, have a backup.
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men have not a desire for an emotional connection??.. synergistic with the physical one?
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men have not a desire for an emotional connection??.. synergistic with the physical one?
I'd much rather be in a healthy long term relationship then short lived or dysfunctional ones even with great sex. I think the issue is how to cultivate one with a non-raw partner, which on multiple experiences is not easy even if you are the one who is indifferent/accepting of the others WOE. I think for people already in relationships and marriages it seems to be different but that the bulk of potential long-term partners will not go in for raw out of the bat, and make getting there quite difficult.
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men have not a desire for an emotional connection??.. synergistic with the physical one?
Is that what you think of men?
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I'd love to be in a relationship with someone who shared a raw paleo diet. Any RPDers live in Vermont?
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Women who just want a child from you whether or not you give money, they just want to have your child.
Wow. I don't doubt that, but that is the complete opposite of me. I love my free life. The last thing I would want would be a child, even in a great relationship. Let alone have a child alone. But I acknowledge I find children dull, so I would not extrapolate myself as the typical Western woman in her late 20s.
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Thats cool goodsamaritan. But, tell me, what happens to the poor schmucks (men) that dont have wives in your culture? Do they just live all alone while the lucky ones (you) reap all the benefits? Whats the ratio of men to women like?
I live in the mega capital cities conglomeration Metro Manila.
The way the current economy is setup, women from across the country flock here and can find work here much easier than men. So there is a large influx of reproductive age women provincial folk and indigenous women folk.
Men are left in the provinces. Women work in the cities. It is a cliche for provincial women working in this metropolis to bear children go back home to give birth and her mom and other siblings, relatives raise the child and she goes back to work again in Manila.
Same cliche with City / Manila men going provincial, and the provincial woman wants his genes, woman gets pregnant and raises the child with her family members.
Been this way from the time of my grandparents. Don't know about the schmucks, but a whole lot of reproductive women choose men this way.
There are different kinds of women here that I'm aware of in terms of cost:
- the city bred I can spend everything you earn types
- the #1 wife-marrying types
- the mistress types
- the I just wanna have your baby types
lots of women / people are still off line.
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Your culture is so unique and interesting compared to mine. Sometimes I think US culture can be too boring.
As for those who say men are bad with relationships, women are just as bad, they are just not as open with it. I have been in a couple relationships where women were turned off because I did not want to have sex with them when we just met. Another relationship I was in, I told the girl I wanted to wait until we got to know each other and she ended up cheating on me. So if anyone hates hearing anti men stuff its me, I have first hand experienced women just as bad.
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The man I like nearly vomited out of disgust from eating raw salmon...SALMON of all things. He also told me he likes well done steak. So sad that it will not work out for us.
As for Male/female relations in general, I find I agree the most with Henry Makow. Very wise man.
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This will give you a good foundation to start making at least a million a year.
So are you making a million plus a year now?
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The man I like nearly vomited out of disgust from eating raw salmon...SALMON of all things. He also told me he likes well done steak. So sad that it will not work out for us.
The key, here, is to at first introduce a non-rawist to raw(ish) foods which are acceptable even in cooked-food-circles:- ie raw fruit, raw vegetables, sushi,sashimi, steak tartare, raw meat kitfo etc. You could also introuce the person to eating lightly-cooked (100% grassfed) meats as many have no issues with such.Plus, if he has no issues with dairy, raw dairy can be an effective lure as it's one of the easiest raw animal foods to get used to. Also, in order to avoid being preached at re converting back to cooked foods, it's necessary to maintain a high level of confidence as regards the diet.
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Bonobo's have all kinds of sex that isn't about reproduction.
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Is that what you think of men?
a question from my (mis)understanding of the previous posts.
i don't know what to think of men :P
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a question from my (mis)understanding of the previous posts.
i don't know what to think of men :P
Ha I thought you were saying we are unemotional or something or maybe you were?! ouch! :P
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The man I like nearly vomited out of disgust from eating raw salmon...SALMON of all things.
Wild or farmed? Wild salmon actually causes strong nausea in a LOT of people, including several people here. I can't eat raw wild salmon at all, I get strongly nauseated.
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Wild or farmed? Wild salmon actually causes strong nausea in a LOT of people, including several people here. I can't eat raw wild salmon at all, I get strongly nauseated.
On the WAPF site there is a review including a download link for a book on Inuit ways of eating fish. In this book the author states that Inuit don't eat salmon raw because it can make them sick and unable to eat raw food for a while. She says that it can even make dogs sick. Interestingly, freezing is supposed to be a way of denaturing the protein so to make it edible.
The link:
http://www.westonaprice.org/book-reviews/thumbs-up/379-fish-that-we-eat.html (http://www.westonaprice.org/book-reviews/thumbs-up/379-fish-that-we-eat.html)
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The man I like nearly vomited out of disgust from eating raw salmon...SALMON of all things. He also told me he likes well done steak. So sad that it will not work out for us.
As for Male/female relations in general, I find I agree the most with Henry Makow. Very wise man.
Why would you give someone raw salmon, or any raw fish as their first raw meat? Shouldn't you play it safe, with beef or something..?
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wtf would you give someone raw salmon, or any raw fish as their first raw meat? You should play it safe, with beef or something...
Sashimi is more culturally acceptable so it's easier for most first timers to get past the mental block with a fish meal.
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Just wanna add my experience here. When I started raw meat, I thought it will be so off-putting for females that I would not be able to find a girlfriend. I also thought that no girl would accept me if I couldn't take her out to a "nice" -v restaurant. However, just the opposite happened. Now I have a girlfriend of the kind I thought I could never have, and it seems that I could easily get another one if this ended... I think it has a lot to do with the fact that I'm not in constant pain, depression and general misery anymore... my self-esteem and social skills have also skyrocketed as a result.
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Spoken like a true alpha male. Hats off to you my friend.
I'm not concerned about raising a family right now since I'm only 28. I'd rather make a fortune for myself first (I'm aiming at 25-50 million euros). Then somewhere in my 40s I'll start making children with multiple women. Until then I'll just keep having lots of fun with super hot girls and enjoy my new found paleo powers. I couldn't care less about having a RPD relationship, there's tons of beautiful girls out there who are in great shape. But I agree if you have children you should give them the best possible quality of life and not be like ghetto people are (procreate and flee).
LoL. You sure like to dream. :)
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When I started raw meat, I thought it will be so off-putting for females that I would not be able to find a girlfriend. I also thought that no girl would accept me if I couldn't take her out to a "nice" -v restaurant.
This is how I feel, except that I am female. Like guys expect martha stewart, and i come out of the kitchen with steak tartare :D
Anyway, the opposite is true too, it is so off-putting to see him eating processed food... like as bad as smoking. I don't mind cooked or grains even, but the really processed stuff... bleh.
I think if I am going to share my life with someone, I need to have similar values in this regard... which is probably not happening :(
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I think if I am going to share my life with someone, I need to have similar values in this regard... which is probably not happening :(
I see plenty of eligible bachelors on this very forum!
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LoL. You sure like to dream. :)
Thinking differently works... dreamers etc
My best mate from high school was a massive dreamer we used to constantly bring him down, he wanted to become a famous photographer in London etc he failed miserably but kept working/dreaming 4 years ago I called him up he was still struggling and had started a CGI business (he knew jack about it) he told me for the amount of hours he was putting into the business he was working for $4 dollars an hour! I thought man it's time to give up...you'll never make it
Last year he made US$700 000 produced a pilot for a new TV series and has all merchandise rights
It's not $50 million but not bad, he's getting there and it's all about having the 'why not' attitude.
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Thinking differently works... dreamers etc
My best mate from high school was a massive dreamer we used to constantly bring him down, he wanted to become a famous photographer in London etc he failed miserably but kept working/dreaming 4 years ago I called him up he was still struggling and had started a CGI business (he knew jack about it) he told me for the amount of hours he was putting into the business he was working for $4 dollars an hour! I thought man it's time to give up...you'll never make it
Last year he made US$700 000 produced a pilot for a new TV series and has all merchandise rights
It's not $50 million but not bad, he's getting there and it's all about having the 'why not' attitude.
Great story. He is not rich yet, but he will probably be so in due time. Most people I know who have made seriously good money, never really set out to be wealthy. rather, they set out to be the best at what they do or as near as possible. There is a genuine exchange of wealth in their business that leaves everyone happy and costumers returning. "Rich because I am awesome at producing something people genuinely want. Bless my good luck and my hard work."
People who set out merely to be rich like Trump, van Hoogstraten and these other assholes, will start MLM companies fronting bullshit 'vitamins' (modern snake oils) when they get low on funds. MLM is a fools game since it cannibalizes its own consumer base, but whoever set it in motion will end up winning. Or they start telemarketing companies sporting bullshit. Anything to get those money they feel ever so entitled to have. It is a deal where only one party is happy after some consideration (As the cacophony of salespitch dies out and people get to think about what just happened). Mafia mentality. "Rich because I am fucking entitled to be! You had better not get in my way!"