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Members' Journals => Journals => Topic started by: Louna on November 01, 2010, 03:57:02 am
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I just took photos in all side to see precisely how things will evolve.
For resume, I past around 10 years mostly vegetarian/vegan,
and after one and half a year one only fruits (with some craves of steamed vegetables and one month of high fat last winter -raw fish and durian-).
I also did 14 days water fast and many one and 2/3 days fast. Also I made many juice fast, more than 3 months during my fruitarianism path.
It helped me some way to recovered, but I always had some big troubles to digest fruits. The times I feel the best were when I ate the less fruits, but can't handle many times with so little calories (but I have a good appetite, so never went very thin) !!
I took no avocado as I don't digest them well. So I was fruitarian zero fat !
Now...
Raw paleo low carb (4 apples juiced in mouth max per day) since one week and feel much better.
I gain few kilos on paleo that I want to lose (but my body seem to really need some high level nutriments for the first days). On fruitarian diet I was always doing yo yo.
Look forward to see the improvements.
I practice more and more yoga since one year (before I was very ill) and I wanna be more muscled, keep my flexibility in (and much), more tonic, explosive strengh.
I will post when I feel it to write about my diet, my sensations, observations...
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You look quite good. You don't look like someone who's had problems with disease
But non the less it will be interesting to read how you fare on RPD. Also I think you will recover faster if you do some added exercise plus the yoga, you will get faster muscle tone aswell
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your wheel looks very solid for only doing yoga for such a short time.
Keep it up. I think the diet alone (fats) should yield good results with further flexibility. I've found myself that doing weighted exercises have helped with further shoulder and hip mobility that years of yoga alone never accomplished.
good luck/have fun journaling!
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looks like summer.
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Even in winter days could be very sunny here. The yoga pics were taken one month ago.
I know... that I will gain more muscle with doing others exercices than yoga... but I don't like very much fitness centers l). I bought a jumping rope but never used it...
If I have more energy, maybe I will have more motivation to train myself, will see.
Two years ago, yes I was very sick, all day sit/in bed because of so many pain all in the body. Doctors wanted to operate me and changed my hips, cut bones of one leg to make it longer... also they offered me to take some hormones all my life to mask a little ovaries polycistics symptoms (horrible thing for a woman :'( I really hope this will cure with paleo diet), and said to me I probably will be in a wheelchair in few years...
At this time, I cannot slept (few hours) without cannabis, I was like a zombie you know. I had horrible sciatic day and night, and was obviously tired all the time and cannot do any sports as it made me worse. My longer walk was 15 minuts (with many pain...). I looked at death like a quite tempting solution :o... Then I discoved fruity livestyle, and jumped into it as I had nothing to lose !
Finally I had huge improve with fruits diet and fasts !!! But also many problems with fruits (very hard digestion, teeth, tiredness, glycemic yoyo -don't know the word in english-, need lots of sleep, always on high tension/nervous -exhausting !-, bored with sugar, always problems with skin -acne- if I ate too much fruits or high sugar fruits...).
Now...
I eat wild fish mainly Bonita :) and some others, meat is mainly beef, eggs, liver, oysters, and some cukes juice and apples. I am trying to have higher quality (than organics).
Thank you for your comments and encouragements :)
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I've had back pain/sciatica. Cured with Dr Sarno's method.
It's not really a structural thing.
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My sciatic flew away with Pilates, yoga and fruits/fasts.
Since I start on paleo, I feel that the nerve is healing much deeper.
Today I went to a supermarket to find some lamb on François's advise (which is very good) and I was so calm during my courses, never felt like that before, strange, it looks like I took a shoot (I mean very cool and peace without bad effects of drugs !). Maybe it's the huge properties of cod liver/oil ?! Amazing...
I was just talking about the colour of the eyes which can change on a better diet and said that my colour of eyes is lighter than before my fruitarian/fasts path...
And now I just saw a new post here about that !
So I will post the very beautiful photo I did today ;D, after I practised an advise of a raw paleo forumer about activated charcoal on body (used like soap).
No need to say that I put so much on my face that after I had quite big problem to take off the charcoal... and finished like a red skin :P...
With this photo, in one year maybe, I hope make a proof that my brown eyes turned to beautiful blue like they were when I was little child 8) ...
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Louna you look beautiful!
I know... that I will gain more muscle with doing others exercices than yoga... but I don't like very much fitness centers l).
Try some push-ups, lunges and squats...I find these exercises are easy and don't take too much time, you can do them anywhere almost anytime, and give quick results. ;D
These are pretty much the only exercises I do other then running around, biking & some yoga, sometimes I use a bar for pull-ups. Its nice to keep it simple! I found when the routine is simple and easy you actually do it and hence get results, yay
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Two years ago, yes I was very sick, all day sit/in bed because of so many pain all in the body. Doctors wanted to operate me and changed my hips, cut bones of one leg to make it longer... also they offered me to take some hormones all my life to mask a little ovaries polycistics symptoms (horrible thing for a woman :'( I really hope this will cure with paleo diet), and said to me I probably will be in a wheelchair in few years...
At this time, I cannot slept (few hours) without cannabis, I was like a zombie you know. I had horrible sciatic day and night, and was obviously tired all the time and cannot do any sports as it made me worse. My longer walk was 15 minuts (with many pain...). I looked at death like a quite tempting solution :o... Then I discoved fruity livestyle, and jumped into it as I had nothing to lose !
Finally I had huge improve with fruits diet and fast!
Louna, thank u for ur journal. as i always have trust on this forum and thankful to all other members to convey all these life saving information through their journals. my husband is pretty healthy . but recently he develops a kind of pain that comes from his lower back and moves around different parts like knee, elbow, neck, thigh, ankle...etc. he says that the pain is like the tendons are tearing up. i just wonder that if u felt the same type of pain? he almost can't lift up his leg sometimes. if he moves, he feels more pain.
love ur photos. beautiful background!!
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Yuli, thank you very much. :)
You motivated me to do some easy exercices. Now will see if I will Just Do It !
Raw, thank you for your comment :)
Not sure but your husband pain seems like the one I used to have.
Diet can help very much as it is often caused by nerves inflammation.
And if we have intestines stretched, big belly, constipation can be very relied to back pain.
Massages can help (belly, back) but don't go to causes...
Also correct the posture help a lot (yoga, pilates and many others things, the important is to find a very good teacher, who have a very good posture himself !).
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I finished my apples (ate just 2 yesterday, cool), don't want to buy more fruits for now. Let see what happened !
Bad points :
For now I have just a little trouble to adjust the paleo meal quantity. The volume changes a lot compared to the fruits I ate in one day before, and for this reason I think, even if I am not hungry, I tend to eat too much.
Also it's very difficult for me to count the calories, fat intake and protein with this diet.
I had feel a glycemic spike sensation after having meat, so I tried to regule with fat after, but so I ate too much fat in the day... l)
But Good points :
I follow quite good my desire of type of food I want and this fit well.
My digestion is paradisiac, just I will stop to eat juice cukes that gives me belly pain.
Strange paradox that I feel more respect and love for animals (and humans) than in vegan diet.
And you know what ?... I'm happy :)
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Today I went to a supermarket to find some lamb on François's advise (which is very good) and (...)
Did you find some NZ lamb, Louna ?
Francois
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Yes François !!! I wanted to send you an PM :)
Really good tast, fatty, tender and melting. Just some nerves/muscles (?) that I split out. Good little bone marrow.
10 euros per kilos, which is not very expensive.
I also find better eggs and eat very very good oysters in promotion. I love oysters :)
Tomorrow I hope I could have some Bonitas.
I find also so good apples that I have some, 4 little I think.
Today I managed better the quantity of my food and so I ate less, cool.
Maybe about 1800 calories with good proportions of fat, proteins and carbs, I feel good.
Yuli, ForTheHunt and KD I'm proud I've done some yoga alone and abdos today, thanks for the motivation :) Hoping it's only the beginning !
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So I decided to jump more into paleo...
I will try to have strictly only real paleo food, not organics eggs and beef fed with grains and no cod oil, but it will be quite challenging because in France and where I live there is not much choice, but... let's jump.
What I have is this : fish, fish and maybe fish. ;D Is it paleo in fact ? If not, I may become paleo breatharian :D
Oh I sometimes can have some lamb from new zealand, and during christmas time some wildfowl.
I don't fix a zero carb plan but low carb is what I need now and that is what I do. Just eating some local apples untreated.
Today I had some Bonite, better than tuna and maybe than salmon (but maybe not compared to a wild salmon ?).
It is really excellent. I ate this beautiful fish with my fingers, under the sun. I love to feel like a "savage".
Also with this very natural fed animals, it's easier for me to feel the stop of the hunger.
I feel good on paleo, my teeth are good, my energy is very good, but I just have a fu*$**g headache and I want to know if it's detox or the eggs of partly grains fed that are doing that.
So, time to have a serious raw paleo diet is come !
If you have any idea to make it easier, I'll take ! :)
Do you think that having lots of shellfish can be harmful ?
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Bravo, Louna !
Cassia fistula (http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/journals/cassia-fistula-why-when-how-much/) is good to stop headaches.
Shellfish is one of the most paleo food: was abundant and easy to collect, has not been subject to artificial selection. No problem to eat a lot of it. Of course it must not be collected in polluted areas, but otherwise we can eat as much as we want, as long as we like it.
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I actually view raw shellfish as being superior to raw fish. Even farmed raw shellfish is reportedly "less worse" than farmed raw fish.
If you already have issues with food-intolerance towards raw carbs, perhaps raw zero-carb may well be the ideal diet for you. Something to try, anyway, if raw omnivore does not work as well for you as expected.
See if you can get hold of raw fatty meats.
One caveat:- I have come across a vague(admittedly unsubstantiated) rumour in the past that much NZ lamb is actually fed on grains in the last 3 months. This is why I never buy raw meats from supermarkets and just buy my raw meats from farmers direct or from farmers' market stalls only.
* You may be one of those RVAFers who has an allergy towards raw eggs. I also have a slight allergy but it only affects me if I overdo their consumption, really.
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Thanks Iguana and TylenDurden :)
For now I eat very low carb compared to my last past fruitarian ! I'm just eating 3/4 apples a day.
Maybe I will eat less, will see.
If lamb are now grains fed and if wild fish is not so good, it is impossible for me to be on raw paleo !
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The eggs I ate was from grains fed animals, so it may be different from wild ones.
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You Look amazing Louna :o
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:) thank you Fatguy
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If lamb are now grains fed and if wild fish is not so good, it is impossible for me to be on raw paleo !
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Relativity.
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For now I eat very low carb compared to my last past fruitarian ! I'm just eating 3/4 apples a day.
Maybe I will eat less, will see.
If lamb are now grains fed and if wild fish is not so good, it is impossible for me to be on raw paleo !
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Once you have been consuming animal flesh and fat for a while your hunger for fruits will diminish by itself.
For me its random, some days I'll eat up to 4 fruits, other days I will have no fruit or carbs at all, I just go with the flow.
Also I don't know if you tried some raw nuts but sometimes those really help stabilize me especially if I didn't eat enough fat that day, and that in turn helps eat less fruit.
If I were you I wouldn't stress that your meat in not completely perfect 100% of the time, I try to get grassfed and wild but if I can't then I just get the organic/hormone-free one...Its useless sitting there stressing over the fact that the lamb you ate had some grains. Its less healthy to worry then if you just relax and eat the frikkin lamb if thats what you want to eat, most people that add some good quality grain fed meat don't have any problems and its still nutritious. I know some purists here may disagree but it doesn't seem to put me out. Grass-fed, grain fed, most meat is yummy and does my tummy good either way! >D
Besides, one of my favorites is young milk-fed calf liver, its the best damn liver I ever had. I suggest you find some young calf liver and try it, better then any cow liver or lamb liver I tried. Use you taste, smell and sense and you will know if you should eat the meat or not.
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Yuli does have a point:- raw grainfed meat is only a really serious problem if one is particularly sensitive to grains like DJR and some others. That said, it is none too healthy. I remember trying raw grainfed meats of the absolute lowest quality imaginable(lower than even what one finds in the supermarket!) and they did nothing re improving my health though I did not seem to get worse on them, as such. So one should always aim for as high quality as one can get, if possible. Then again, I was once assured by a RVAFer from another forum that her father regained his health on raw grainfed meats. Mqybe it has to do with the state of one's health, individual health-problems etc. I do know one thing , though, and that is that studies show that the more cows are fed on grains, the worse their health problems get - that is why modern farmers who raise cattle intensively on grains have to dose them with vaccines etc/ all the time to ward off disease/infections.
My remark re fish only concerned farmed fish. Wild fish is fine(ie sardines/mackerel etc. etc.) Only a few fish are usually farmed such as salmon.
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Oh yeah I have had some cheap grain-fed meat that I couldn't even eat...after a few pieces I just got rid of it :/
But there are a few particular grain-fed ones I really like, they are not given any vaccines etc, and are supplemented with hay and other things to offset their otherwise unnatural diets. Some sell beef that was fed both grass-fed and grains and supplements. Some is fed on grass then finished on a grain diet for the last 60 days, during that time is enough to create marbling in the steak but not enough time to make the animal sick with diseases that need medications...
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Yuli does have a point:- raw grainfed meat is only a really serious problem if one is particularly sensitive to grains like DJR and some others.
I'm definitely an anomaly though.
I recently got deer from both my farmer and my wife's uncle.
The deer from my wife's uncle sits fine without any problems (he hunts in the woods far from crop fields).
The deer from my farmer, which has been gorging on corn from his neighbors' crops the last month or two, has caused minor indigestion and malaise to the point I won't eat it. The deer I got from him a couple months ago, from the same locale, sat fine without any issue as the corn was not mature enough for the deer to be eating extensively.
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If I were you I wouldn't stress that your meat in not completely perfect 100% of the time (...) I know some purists here may disagree but it doesn't seem to put me out.
I don't disagree on this point, Yuli. Anyway, according to this website (http://agneau-de-nouvelle-zelande.com/lagneau-de-nouvelle-zelande/8-nouvelle-zelande-lelevage-grandeur-nature.html) the NZ lamb is 100% grass fed. Moreover some of my long time instincto friends and I have regularly eaten a lot of it for decades and it never triggered any troubles. It's the only commercial meat I eat.
Francois
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Ok, thank you very much. :)
I will do all my possible for having great quality and if not possible I will not cupabilize and have at least organics quality (but the organics I take are surely a little grassfed, so quite good quality).
Tylen, thanks for the precision about fish, sometimes I miss some things as I don't speak very very well english you know 8)
The fish I eat is always wild, cheap and very high quality. I love Bonita :D Yeah, I know I repeat myself, but it is such a discovery in my life !!
So this morning I am very motivated, due to a good night and your encouraging posts. No headaches for now, coooooool.
Yuli, I will see for having milk-liver.
Relativity... Yes ! Thanks Miles.
Have a good day/night :)
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Just saw your pictures, you look very healthy. Good teeth, did your parents take particular care of prenatal nutrition and your nutrition when you were very young?
Anyway welcome and hopefully you can build on the good foundation you already have.
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:) Just saw your message.
No my parents don't take particullary care of nutrition, but in my opinion they like intuitively and by their education quite good nutrition.
My mother eat equilibrate things, she used to smoke a lot during few years and stopped when she learned a pregnancy, my father smoked few years and stopped just before my mother.
They both were thin before my birth, my father was very sportive guy and he make me tested all kind of stuff, including nutrition. He loves raw fish, raw meat, raw butter, raw oysters... (but he likes also many bad things, salt, bread, alcohol...).
My both grandmothers died recently at the age of 99, and lived at their home until the end in quite good shape.
Generally they ate quite natural food, except some things that surely causes their diseases.
Now my parents are in quite good condition at 60's, both have not much lost hair, my mother have almost no white hair.
Also my father always make me do lots of sports since very young, and listen and learn music ; he believes on an integral education developpement and I am very grateful to him for that.
Thanks for your kind words Kyle.
You look good on your profile photo, do you already posted pics of you in the forum ?
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I observe today that my front teeth have a little more space between, it's surprising after just 3 weeks on paleo (and the last on zero carb), I thought first I was dreaming, but no, it's really happened, and I can surely feel my jaw/teeth moving...
I had many fishes.
I feel very calm, I like very much. I do the things with no eagerness, peacefully.
My skin begin to glow, my body is relaxed, my hands are more open naturally.
Sometimes I feel heavy and too hot (I mean... I may sweat much more than before or just feel warm while others have many pullovers).
I am more muscled, my buttocks strenghting without doign anthing, amazing !!! Also my flexibility is very good (did a flex yoga lesson today). :)
I am still adjusting my diet to find what fit the best for me at this time, thinking of reintroduce or not some little fruits, will see later, for now ZC is ok.
I sleep well.
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I don't have many pictures on the forum, that's a good suggestion. I should take some and put them up on my journal so people can see how I'm doing with the diet I'm eating. I think there should be more pictures on sites like this, when I was posting on vegetarian sites years ago I was probably talking to a lot of unhealthy looking people who were preaching about what to do to be healthy.
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Yes ! :)
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I'm definitely an anomaly though.
I recently got deer from both my farmer and my wife's uncle.
The deer from my wife's uncle sits fine without any problems (he hunts in the woods far from crop fields).
The deer from my farmer, which has been gorging on corn from his neighbors' crops the last month or two, has caused minor indigestion and malaise to the point I won't eat it. The deer I got from him a couple months ago, from the same locale, sat fine without any issue as the corn was not mature enough for the deer to be eating extensively.
That's good to know. It wouldn't have occurred to me. There are some deer nearby, but they live next to the government experimental farm.
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I was sarting to read from the beginning the long-road-journal of Lex,
and in the toilets an image came through my mind...
We maybe can compared the differents fuels needed by the body to the ones needed for a fire :
glucose will be the twig, helping for light the fire,
protein like log for keeping the fire alight,
fat like oil, for the fire lasts longer.
Insulin also could be compared to the sparks.
(http://terresacree.org/images/huile.jpg)
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Began the paleo diet 3 weeks ago...
I am having more and more pleasure for this raw paleo diet, feeling better each day.
Now 10 days ZC, just had 3 apples 3 days ago, and I didn't like the effect, excitation, glycemik pik, mental dispersion and finally get tired and bored with stomach pain.
I'm still adjusting the quantity of fat and protein.
Loving more and more red meat, beef in particulary a little oxygened, aging and with bone marrow. I'm a little surprised to like these food very quickly.
I read lots of testimonies and it helps a lot, for sure, thank you paleo fooders for that :)
I got a little bored of fish so I take less.
I eat liver, heart, very good...
My muscles are more developped and I am also more flexible, and very happy for that :)
My pcos syndrom seem to decrease, I ended up doubting that I could treat me, so that's a giant good news !
I am also surprised to not stress for the things I used to be.
Sometimes I feel like "high" with raw meat, I love that. Curious to experiment the high meat to see how far I could fly !
My skin is more white and clearer than before (fruits colored the skin I think).
We call the noble blood "blue blood", don't know really why as they are differents theories but I can see much more my vein, blue (maybe too much ?)...
Is that also happened to you on raw paleo, particullary zero carb ? Why is that happened ?
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Some memories of my childhood nutrition came and I discusssed with my mother, so :
my father didn't want me to take to much sugar,
never had sodas or juice fruits,
meat, fish or eggs for each meal,
my father loves fat, like my grand-mother where I was often,
ate mainly home prepared food, simple.
It surely gives me some quite solid bases.
So, nobody observe blue veins ?!!!... bon... I may transform myself in a snake :o
I was very happy, smiling and joking all the time when I was young, and you know what ? Yeah... it's coming back. I lough a lot since few days.
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Limiting eggs because of the mucus it creates in the noise and the throat, and the decrease of the desire for its.
Louna in direct, for Louna's paleo channel...
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Where do you get your eggs from? My birds don't lay eggs in this season, the days are too short. I should put again a light in the hens-house and keep it alight till 11 pm. Last winter I had a few eggs that way.
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So, nobody observe blue veins ?!!!... bon... I may transform myself in a snake :o
possibly, but everyone's veins appear blue, they just usually have more crap in the tissue disguising it when unwell. It might seem more striking in color with pale skin than HGs or something but ideally the same in pronouncement. I'm not sure about pigmentation becoming lighter being as positive, could it just be a time of year thing as well? I havn't been out in the sun in ages and i'm still maintaining a decent color. I was ghosty much of my adolescence and early adulthood.
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Limiting eggs because of the mucus it creates in the noise and the throat, and the decrease of the desire for its.
Louna in direct, for Louna's paleo channel...
Best to play safe re raw eggs. Quite a large number of RVAFers have some sort of food-intolerance to raw eggs, however mild. I don't think that raw eggs are a useful major staple for those who have absolutely no problems with them, only as an extra, IMO.
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I guess the problem is the quality of the eggs. "Organic" eggs are not suitable because the hens are fed with heat dried grain including wheat and worse, industrial "organic"feed. Eggs from wild birds and see turtles (great, a delight) are the best, but quite difficult to get! Anyway, if the hens, ducks, geese are free range and not fed wheat and heated grain, no problem.
But the white and yolk should be eaten separately, so that if the white doesn't taste good it can by rejected.
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Thanks for replyed :)
The organics eggs I get come from the department of Vendée and they were the best eggs I've ever eat, even if they maybe don't respond exactly of your criters Iguana.
Hens in total liberty eating what's everywhere and some grains which grow in the fields near them.
Don't know how is it possible to have eggs in this season, I will ask to my butcher.
Tyler, I also think eggs occasionnaly may be ok for me, but I ate too much in the paleo starting (maybe because of the glucose it contain 8) and maybe also for help to clean my liver ? Don't know.
Now I simply don't feel drown by them.
Like you KD, I used to look like a ghost younger, specially when I was smoking a lot of marijuana and having not a very good diet.
Now my skin is quite clear but not white and I don't look like unhealthy.
I am quite sure that my skin whitering is due to the stopping of fruits. I did several mono fruit diet for quite long time and observed that depending on what kind of fruits I ate, the color of my skin was changing.
It the same thing with my teeth : fruits color the teeth (specially when someone is on only fruits diet), and now my teeth become more white while I do nothing for that and rarely brush them (just with water).
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:'( I was feeling not very good today, missing sugar...
So I ate sugar...
3 apples, and chewed a lot.
And now I have classic intestinal pain (have always with fruits and vegetables, all fibers in fact).
Am I maso or is it just that sugar is so addictive, specially from my fruitarian recently past ?! -\
I know my response, just want to share and maybe searching for encouragments in my zero carb adventure. I feel so good without fibers.
I had yesterday and today some discussions with friends orientated kind of fruitarians or vegetarians and share my story and I also saw a little sweet pig baby with his mother... and yes all these things participated for doubting and craving these apples.
Now I feel my teeth less clear and more fragiled, as usual with fruits... just have to be patient for that hard digestion now :(
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:'( I was feeling not very good today, missing sugar...
So I ate sugar...
3 apples, and chewed a lot.
And now I have classic intestinal pain (have always with fruits and vegetables, all fibers in fact).
Am I maso or is it just that sugar is so addictive, specially from my fruitarian recently past ?! -\
I know my response, just want to share and maybe searching for encouragments in my zero carb adventure. I feel so good without fibers.
For sure, Louna, don't ever beat yourself up (mentally/emotionally) or feel guilty when you do eat three apples or some fruit every once in awhile - the indigestion is punishment enough. It makes sense that you would miss fruit a little sometimes. :)
If it makes you feel better, just tell yourself, "At least I didn't eat frozen yogurt with three different kinds of crushed chocolate bar toppings and Ghirardelli chocolate sauce and creamy caramel sauce, a slice of disappointing pizza, a small decaf gingerbread latte from Peet's (they are seasonal!), a blueberry muffin top, and a lemon poppyseed muffin within two days like some other RPDer might have..." Um, that's just a random "hypothetical" example... so compared to the random "hypothetical" example, you are doing just great. :)
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... "At least I didn't eat frozen yogurt with three different kinds of crushed chocolate bar toppings and Ghirardelli chocolate sauce and creamy caramel sauce, a slice of disappointing pizza, a small decaf gingerbread latte from Peet's (they are seasonal!), a blueberry muffin top, and a lemon poppyseed muffin within two days....
Hey how did you know all that!
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;D hey Cinna, you made me smile, thanks !
You're totally right for not cupabilize because hard digestion is already a good lesson.
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I'm going more and more well on ZC path.
Yesterday I went to a contemporan dance class, and surprise, it was with profesionnals :o
The teacher is very good and tell me that for a first lesson I did very well ! For sure yoga helped me, but I'm impressed by the capacities of the body, if we give it the good foods.
Two years ago, I could'nt walk more than 10 minuts, and having pains days and nights and now I'm doing hard Yoga, and dancing !
I loved to dance yesterday. I wanted to take lessons for so many years...
I'm sure paleo, ZC for me helped a lot to realize projects, because the energy liberated by hard digestion can be put in others domains and right food give us amazing energy.
I am very well and happy. Hope it lasts ! and better !!!
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Hey how did you know all that!
great dieters binge alike
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Hey how did you know all that!
Haha! I don't know, Yuli - it just came to me! I have an incredible "imagination" when it comes to food. ;)
great dieters binge alike
Fo sho! :) They binge "creative" too.
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:) Hi !
ZC since 3 weeks now...
It is going quite well in the average for me, have more and more energy, can workout more, work more and with pleasure, my skin is better and better, so for that it's really great.
Just the big deal is for me to digest fat...
If I eat not many, I digest well but eat to much lean meat and feel with a big belly and hungry,
if I eat as much fat as I feel, I got intestine pain like I had before with all diets I've tested (fruitarian and others vegetarian and omnivorous).
It's like I'm having cramps, I can feel the intestines moving. Fibers do that, fat idem. Maybe just potatoes don't do that but they have many others inconvenients...
Some nights I just can't sleep, cause of the pain (fruits were doing the same thing).
So, do you have any idea or experiences to share with me that can put a light on my way ?
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I don't know whats best to suggest, so both raw plants and raw fat make your stomach ache...
Hmm in this case I'd try some fermented bacteria products, so mainly natural Kefir and natural Saurkraut - those always solve any stomach issues for me.
You said potatoes don't do that to you...but those are definitaly not ZC lol... have you tried coconut oil or just plain butter?
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Maybe you should just eat more of the meat.
If you can't digest/absorb all of the fat then it will sit in your gut and cause discomfort, until it's pushed out by diarrhoea/vomitting, or by other food such as plants, as pure fat can't pass through the large intestine by itself. Dairy/nuts are different as they contain other components which help digestion. Animal body fat is for storage, so is not easily digested/absorbed and so is more difficult to process.
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Thank you for your quick answer Yuli !
No potatoes are not at all ZC ! I remembered they calm my intestines for some times when I cheated on my fruitarian days.
Kephir and natural Saukraut, hmhm, maybe I will test Kephir cause cabbage are the most horrible for my sbelly and I fear to try them even if it's femented !
I would like to understand why my intestines give me so much pain, if it was only fiber, I would say it is because the fiber irritated the tubes, but why in that case fat hurt as well ?
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Why not Miles, but I fear rabbit starvation also !! :o
In fact I've tried two days, but ate more than 3 pounds, my belly got distended and still feel hungry...
It costs also too much money !
Generally I am eating around 2,5 pounds of lean meat with fat (exercing around 2 hours per day or more).
Also I think the deeper problem is that I eat too much... but I don't achieved to regulate my hunger in any diet I follow. It seems like I always overeat now, and this is linked with hormonal disorders I have (pcos). I feel in a kind of vicious cercle you know.
Plus, I never had weight problems till my 18's and was really thin and since I changed my habits of eating it began to be more difficult to have benchmarks I think.
I am not big but not fit as I was and as I feel good. I have too much fat.
When I was eating fruits I was thinner but less muscled and had worse skin, and now I have better skin and good muscles, but more fat.
And the intestines pain won't go weither I eat fruits or meat or ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh labyrinth mode
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Decided to stop here my ZC experiment.
I'm reading Tyler journal which I find really interessant.
Will have fruits and meat.
Both helped me to gain on health, but seems like they missed each one when I suppressed one.
Will see how it goes...
I take some peppermint in water to help pcos to cure. Don't know if I do well, but I would like so much to ill... If someone as an idea for helping that syndrom it's welcome.
Some said that low carb help a lot, but I'm just bored at following a diet for the instant, just want to eat only natural things and cure (pcos, abdominal pain).
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Yes, I think it's wise: eat everything you like as long as it is roughly paleo (which means excluding cereals and dairy only), unprocessed and not heated over 40° C. Enjoy your food and be happy!
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Well, just here for tell you that it fit me very well raw fruits, raw animals and some raw vegetables.
Trying to practice as well as I can the instincto approach.
I feel very very good :)
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I'm feeling good, mentally and physically much better than with fruitarism and better than with carnivorism.
I just think I should eat less fruits (they excitated me and tired me, specially high glucidic ones),
a little of green and vegetables
and more meat,
but where I live (in Nice) I can't find a good approvisonnement, it's kind of decouraging.
The others raw I know don't eat meat, and wild animals here cost a fool price.
I only have some fish and some lamb from new-zealand sometimes. Boring and not very satisfying.
Thinking to go to another place with better conditions (alimentation but also for more wild nature etc).
Or... learn to catch animals... (my level on this forum just change with this post for "trapper" ;D). But I wouldn't be able to store it in the flat, so not a solution.
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Feeling good with less fruits, more vegetables and lots of meat.
I've discovered a quite good plan for horse meat (vey beautiful colour, deep red) and wahouh the flesh is So good !
Some pieces are so tender it's a little like tuna but I prefer the consistance and taste of horse.
It gives me an incredible energy, very dynamic, very happy.