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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Exercise / Bodybuilding => Topic started by: yuli on December 16, 2010, 10:56:31 am
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We are having some of the most beautiful winter nights in Toronto this year ;D
There are some nasty windy cold ones, where you want to hibernate all day.
But like tonight, there are beautiful nights full of fluffy snow flakes slowly falling down and its very still (making it quite warm if you're dressed well).
I was taking a walk and felt this was the PERFECT weather for jogging!
Do you guys run in the wintertime outside?
There is something about the quiet and magical peacefulness of winter night that makes me wanna run outside, I wish every winter night was like this.
Days can be good too but the night with fluffy snow looks the best on urban streets, and there are no humans out so youre all by yourself :D
Last winter I tried running during the coldest times (I have no idea why I am weird sometimes) and my lungs hurt from gasping the cold air eventually :'( also all my digits got extremely frozen.
Anyone who does this, what precautions do you take to comfortably run in the winter?
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Winter is my favorite time to run. I do two different endurance sports, biking and running. For me, biking is for the summer and running is for the winter. I usually enjoy running at like 4:00 AM the best. It's fun running in the middle of big streets where you'd never be able to do something like it during the day.
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i grew up in small town surrounded by forest, pine/fir forest is gorgeous in winter, we used to do cross county skiing.
now unfortunately i live in metropolitan area, chicago, i've been to toronto few times in winter, it sucks as well. i guess everything looks like crap after experiencing winter pine forest.
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Winter is my favorite time to run. I do two different endurance sports, biking and running. For me, biking is for the summer and running is for the winter....
Dude you read my mind, when living close to the city I bike in the summer, and I run in the winter (not as often as I should , I wanna start doing it more)...I go on long camping trips in the summer - sort of like living in the wild, and there I'll swim but only because its fun to be in a lake not cause I am that good a swimmer, I can only do it well if I have to not drown lol. What I do like in the summer besides biking all day is long nature exploration walks, I guess its called hiking..
I am will try going for a winter run as soon as I get some more computer work done, dam deadlines, I think I will wrap a thin wool scarf around the lower face and that should solve the cold-air-start-breathing-from-mouth problem. Digits freezing..I guess try two pair of gloves? lol
i grew up in small town surrounded by forest, pine/fir forest is gorgeous in winter, we used to do cross county skiing.
now unfortunately i live in metropolitan area, chicago, i've been to toronto few times in winter, it sucks as well. i guess everything looks like crap after experiencing winter pine forest.
Winter forest when its quiet and snowy...the best! I actually don't live in the city but right on the outskirts - close enough to get downtown in less then an hour but also close to two very large parks (which are forests, with the river groin through through them and then down through the city)...in the yard I have one wall of tall pine trees...spaced close, taller then the house, it makes a pretty wall in the winter and welcomed shade in the summer.
Anyways I noticed I hate any exercise or sport where my feet are "trapped" in something, like skiis or skates or roller-blades, I don't like, I am semi-envious of the people that do. I like running and walking because its only using your body, as well as some swimming and any exercise done with zero equipment. I also like the other extreme where I am operating a machine, like biking...I'll probably like kite-surfing, gotta try that.
But I am trying to enjoy the nice winter days/night although I hate skating and skiing so I running and walking...I don't know what else to do...
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Yeah i love winter running because the air is so much fresher and more clean! I also run between 04-07am. It's great! Especially when the moon and the snow make the nights pretty light...I love it. And when coming home, frozen and stiff ears - a hot shower is the nicest reward... :)
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2 days ago I was running after a longer brake.
- 6 degrees C, a lot of snow
wonderful weather to do it :)
But I also ride a bike in winter
a hot shower is the nicest reward... :)
Have you ever tried very cold shower afterwards? That would really make your day 8)
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Last winter I tried running during the coldest times (I have no idea why I am weird sometimes) and my lungs hurt from gasping the cold air eventually :'( also all my digits got extremely frozen.
Anyone who does this, what precautions do you take to comfortably run in the winter?
You've got to breathe in through your nose and out through your mouth.
And wear some warm clothes, but no to warm, so you don't sweat too much.
My new sheep gloves:
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2 days ago I was running after a longer brake.
- 6 degrees C, a lot of snow
wonderful weather to do it :)
But I also ride a bike in winter Have you ever tried very cold shower afterwards? That would really make your day 8)
Oh, I keep mountain biking in the winter. It's just cold, wet and muddy so I don't do it as often.
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Oh, I keep mountain biking in the winter. It's just cold, wet and muddy so I don't do it as often.
Mountain biking is definitely something much more difficult.
I ride on the streets and sometimes in the forest. I've got a cross bike, so it's not really accustomed to some rocky rough terrain.
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Mountain biking is definitely something much more difficult.
I ride on the streets and sometimes in the forest. I've got a cross bike, so it's not really accustomed to some rocky rough terrain.
Well cyclocross is a winter sport so you could almost call that a winter bike. One of the toughest things about winter mountain biking is your hands can get too cold to maneuver the bike properly. On the road, that isn't really a problem because you don't have to do as much and you can also always wear more heavily insulated gloves.
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I have a bike I am sure can handle winter, but I never took it into the snow yet, its an old school men's hybrid bike, but with the bigger tires like mountain bike, I had to change the chain a few times and tune up but its been my dad's bike since 15years ago and now its mine...he bugs me to get a sppeed bike expensive like him but I like this one it has character and it has lasted so long must be good lol....
Here are the booties I am going to use for running in winter, fleaxible, ninja-like, sheep skin inside, leather outside....but I only wish the sole was a little flatter :'( Otherwise I have abused these for 3 years and they have proven good....but when I went winter running last year I stupidly wore running shoes...many times and froze....they do look narrow but I have small feet for my height so they work, better then running shoes ayway....
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I am scared of cold baths, I take hot ones, but in each bath I dump a cup of salts -\
I prefer mountain running to mountain biking and prefer biking on roads (more or less) instead, because I tend to be clumsy and I dont want to die or go to hospital yet >D
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I sometimes wear a thin stretchy fabric tube over my nose and below when running in the winter. It lets the air in/out but traps the heat from my face/neck which warms the air before I breath it in.
Yuli if you could get the sole changed at a cobbler those boots would be great.
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Yuli, those are really paleo-style shoes :)
I wear running ones.
Just an hour ago I was running - snowy terrain, not so easy as on hard one. About 5 km.
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all day everyday lol i love it but I hatee running with music because you can get huge adrenalin/cortisol shots from it lol and after this feel like shit.
But when slow run without music totally relaxed without sweating because of winter and concentrate on the wind passing by your ears its incredible!!
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all day everyday lol i love it but I hatee running with music because you can get huge adrenalin/cortisol shots from it lol and after this feel like shit.
But when slow run without music totally relaxed without sweating because of winter and concentrate on the wind passing by your ears its incredible!!
Absolutely- I never run with music.
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Where I live the coldest it will ever get is about freezing, though only in the morning. No snow either. So I run with my Vibrams all year round.
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all day everyday lol i love it but I hatee running with music because you can get huge adrenalin/cortisol shots from it lol and after this feel like shit.
But when slow run without music totally relaxed without sweating because of winter and concentrate on the wind passing by your ears its incredible!!
Exactly! you read my mind ;)
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Us runners are all the same.
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I love your boots. I'm looking for ideas. My and the partner went to see if I could find some closed MBTs. I have the sandals, and the same store probably has closed shoes. So he took me to a little outdoor strip mall, but it wasn't the same place. Right in front of us was a hunting gear store. I told him I wanted to go in to see if this store has boots I could wear, but he said the store that sold us the MBTs was down the block. I went along, but that store only sold New Balance shoes, NB shirts etc. I agreed to getting a pair of hiking shoes there. The new shoes do actually grip the ice well so far. They keep on shocking me (my hands when I wear them). That hasn't happened to me in decades, that I can recall. Then we went to WF last night, and the shoes just felt too weird to wear, so we (or rather I) shopped barefoot. I guess that made it paleo. During the shop, he suggested we return the shoes. On a bright side, NBs are known to be vegan (no leather most of the time).
I think it's (long past) time I get sheepskin shoes like yours. Maybe I can get them in the morning.
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Doesn't matter, but I like environmentally sound choices, not just for my own health. I really believe raw paleo is better for the earth, even in shoe materials.
Maybe I should make my own shoes. I would love to brain tan leather, and I have sources for brains now. I'm not sure how to make running shoes though. I wonder how many here make their own shoes.
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Running in the cold for too long can give you that pain. Bikeing in the cold is better since it doesn't require as much oxygen or breathing as long distance jogs. Heavy amount of cold oxygen can cause problems. I listen to my body, if I feel good running in the cold i do, if not I don't. I got some nice flexible leather boots too. I like long walks too in the cold. Don't force yourself in the cold if there is that burning or blood taste in your throat/mouth.
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Running in the cold for too long can give you that pain. Bikeing in the cold is better since it doesn't require as much oxygen or breathing as long distance jogs. Heavy amount of cold oxygen can cause problems. I listen to my body, if I feel good running in the cold i do, if not I don't. I got some nice flexible leather boots too. I like long walks too in the cold. Don't force yourself in the cold if there is that burning or blood taste in your throat/mouth.
Biking doesn't require as much oxygen? Try climbing up some of these mountains over here...
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Biking doesn't require as much oxygen? Try climbing up some of these mountains over here...
Also when you are going at high speed you'll have to breathe out your mouth eventually, especially with the hills etc, and when you go fast there is more ice cold wind hitting you then running. They are both quite demanding exercises when its that cold out.
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Biking doesn't require as much oxygen? Try climbing up some of these mountains over here...
No, riding a bicycle on cement is not as srtessing cardiovascularly as jogging for a couple miles. Jogging gets your heart rate up quicker. Unless your gear is very low and your peddling thousands a time a few feet. My gear is high on my my bike, I never breath heavy but feel a burn in my legs. So in a case with normal scenerios, much harder to go for a long jog, more heavy breathing.
even fat people rather ride a bike than go jog,
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BTW, it pretty silly you mention biking up a mountain. Were talking about imediate surroundings, around the block on flat surface. I don't live in the mountains.
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And even in that, running up a hill is harder than biking up a hill as far as cardio. I only feel a burn in my legs. I just got done biking from the store. Really cold outside. No problem. Breathing is more controlled and less oxygen needed.
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I love your boots. I'm looking for ideas. My and the partner went to see if I could find some closed MBTs....
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I think it's (long past) time I get sheepskin shoes like yours. Maybe I can get them in the morning.
...Maybe I should make my own shoes. I would love to brain tan leather, and I have sources for brains now. I'm not sure how to make running shoes though. I wonder how many here make their own shoes.
Thanks! They are my fave I hope they last forever but thats wishful thinking. l)
I got them at an "orthopedic" store, and they ended up being very comfy, the sole is flexible and folds up easily, you should for sure get the sheepskin ones its so cozy to wear especially on bare feet! But when its real cold you'll still need warm socks with them.
I have MBT sandals to and they are fun for the summer, I love walking really fast in them! And its the few sandals without heel strap that I can sprint in for short time. Actually they are the only "between the toe" sandals I can wear comfortably.
Yeah I'd make my own shoes with leather and animal fur, but I know I'll never get around it, well not in the next 5 years at least l)
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And even in that, running up a hill is harder than biking up a hill as far as cardio. I only feel a burn in my legs. I just got done biking from the store. Really cold outside. No problem. Breathing is more controlled and less oxygen needed.
You ever mountain bike up a slippery and steep hill? Seems to take a lot more effort than running up a hill in my opinion.
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Whao what happened to the posts!
More effort. Yes in your leg muscle, not your cardio though.
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Why did my post get erased and replaced with your post...I didn't write this.
Yuli, I'm just made of steal for real. My bike is really funked up, old and rusty racing bike. High gear, unchangable. I ride to the store without sitting down for fun and it's up hill. It's def. below freezing outside. No problemo.
My point is, with my bike, it takes a lot to get a cardio workout. My legs just feel like tree trunks after that's all.
When I jog, my legs feel fine, but cardio gets hit much quicker. I start to demand more oxygen at a faster rate.
Its not all "flat" around hear. But there's def no mountains around my hood. On the G.
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Why did my post get erased and replaced with your post...I didn't write this.
Yeah, I thought I clicked reply. Must have accidenty clicked modify. Sorry about that. I was pretty confused too.
Here we go...
Yuli, I'm just made of steal for real. My bike is really funked up, old and rusty racing bike. High gear, unchangable. I ride to the store without sitting down for fun and it's up hill. It's def. below freezing outside. No problemo.
My point is, with my bike, it takes a lot to get a cardio workout. My legs just feel like tree trunks after that's all.
When I jog, my legs feel fine, but cardio gets hit much quicker. I start to demand more oxygen at a faster rate.
Its not all "flat" around hear. But there's def no mountains around my hood. On the G.
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Whao what happened to the posts!
I don't know but it sucks...I wonder what it was, hope its not someone hacking in the site oO
.....Here we go...
Yuli, I'm just made of steal for real. My bike is really funked up, old and rusty racing bike. High gear, unchangable. I ride to the store without sitting down for fun and it's up hill. It's def. below freezing outside. No problemo.
My point is, with my bike, it takes a lot to get a cardio workout. My legs just feel like tree trunks after that's all.
When I jog, my legs feel fine, but cardio gets hit much quicker. I start to demand more oxygen at a faster rate.
Its not all "flat" around hear. But there's def no mountains around my hood. On the G.
No thats still your post, mine was replaced with that one and deleted ??? weird
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Whao what happened to the posts!
More effort. Yes in your leg muscle, not your cardio though.
I don't think it is too important to argue about this, but I still disagree. When running up a hill, the only thing stopping me is my legs. When mountain biking up a hill I feel I get more of a cardiovascular workout. My heart rate is certainly higher when biking up a hill versus running, though that partly may be from the cliff that is on my right that I may be visiting if my tires slip.
Maybe we're just different.
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I don't know but it sucks...I wonder what it was, hope its not someone hacking in the site oO
No thats still your post, mine was replaced with that one and deleted ??? weird
Maybe some mod accidentally clicked something? Hopefully no one is hacking it...I've had some bad experiences with hacking...
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No thats still your post, mine was replaced with that one and deleted ??? weird
I think I just accidently clicked modify on the you post maybe. And wrote thinking it was my post. As a moderater I can modify what people write in this section.
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I don't think it is too important to argue about this, but I still disagree. When running up a hill, the only thing stopping me is my legs. When mountain biking up a hill I feel I get more of a cardiovascular workout. My heart rate is certainly higher when biking up a hill versus running, though that partly may be from the cliff that is on my right that I may be visiting if my tires slip.
Maybe we're just different.
Let me just put you in my perspective. My gear is so high on my raceing junk bike, I wouldn't make it up a mountain. I agree, if the bike is on an extremly low gear and your peddling fairly rapidly then cardio will be hit much more. All depends, there are many variables.
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Let me just put you in my perspective. My gear is so high on my raceing junk bike, I wouldn't make it up a mountain. I agree, if the bike is on an extremly low gear and your peddling fairly rapidly then cardio will be hit much more. All depends, there are many variables.
True. Though in the correct gear it is more of a cardio type thing.
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Yuli, I'm just made of steal for real....
So you're like...a robot ;D
Hey.....what happened to your hair? Thats not very wintery of you...now you'll need a hat!
I don't think it is too important to argue about this, but I still disagree...
Thats fine I wasn't trying to argue...just saying I end up breathing more wind from biking even simply because of the speed, even when going down a big hill there is no work but more cold wind in your face. And its very cold for me...even in the fall I get bad wind-lash and my ears feel like they will fall off... ><
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There is no arguement. Its just the truth. WHo can bike longer than they can run? I can. Just simple man, unless your talking about on an exercise bike non stop pedaling.
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So you're like...a robot ;D
Hey.....what happened to your hair? Thats not very wintery of you...now you'll need a hat!
Thats fine I wasn't trying to argue...just saying I end up breathing more wind from biking even simply because of the speed, even when going down a big hill there is no work but more cold wind in your face. And its very cold for me...even in the fall I get bad wind-lash and my ears feel like they will fall off... ><
I agree with you. I was talking to Sully.
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Hey.....what happened to your hair? Thats not very wintery of you...now you'll need a hat!
Shaved it, was feeling pretty raw the first days. Yeah my head def needs a hat. I got this goofy hunting cap. Orange with a deer on it.
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There is no arguement. Its just the truth. WHo can bike longer than they can run? I can. Just simple man, unless your talking baout ona an exercise bike non stop pedaling.
You can bike longer than you can run because you are getting a cardio workout while in running you are getting somewhat of a cardio workout while much more of a workout in the legs. All I know is that's how it is for me.
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Shaved it, was feeling pretty raw the first days. Yeah my head def needs a hat. I got this goofy hunting cap. Orange with a deer on it.
I guess they could use animal skin and then paint it...
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I wouldn't compare cycling to running, only to moving by foot. If you count really slow cycling you have to count walking or very slow running too.
And Yuli you can get cycling glasses, a thing to cover your mouth/nose, and a head-band thing to go around under ur helmet which covers your ears. I have that stuff cuz I used to cycle everywhere all year round that I felt was too far per time available to run.
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I wouldn't compare cycling to running, only to moving by foot. If you count really slow cycling you have to count walking or very slow running too.
Your right, there's really no comparison. They are different. Although walking is designed for us to take very little energy. Probably to fit a nomadic lifestyle.
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For the last 3 years I rode over 10000 km on bike and from my experience running exhausts me much quicker than bike.
10 km in 45 minutes of running on the flat surface is like 3 hours of intense biking; more or less.
The heart rate is much quicker.
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For the last 3 years I rode over 10000 km on bike and from my experience running exhausts me much quicker than bike.
10 km in 45 minutes of running on the flat surface is like 3 hours of intense biking; more or less.
The heart rate is much quicker.
How about climbing 10000 km? Running would be easier. Why don't we just say that they are two totally different sports and you can't really compare them. Could we just leave it at that?
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Why don't we just say that they are two totally different sports and you can't really compare them. Could we just leave it at that?
It's true that they are two different sports.
But EXHAUSTION is comparable, if you like it or not. :)
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Interesting discussion re biking vs running. Just an observation: I run each morning and I have a hill that I need to run uphil. The same hill I would ride uphill with my bike afetr coming from work. I feel less exhausted when i run it uphill. Maybe it has sth. to do with the fact that I don't ride a lot ???. But then when we talk about flat surfaces: I could sure ride 5h straight, but running 5h straight is way more exhausting.
Nicole
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Interesting discussion re biking vs running. Just an observation: I run each morning and I have a hill that I need to run uphil. The same hill I would ride uphill with my bike afetr coming from work. I feel less exhausted when i run it uphill. Maybe it has sth. to do with the fact that I don't ride a lot ???. But then when we talk about flat surfaces: I could sure ride 5h straight, but running 5h straight is way more exhausting.
Nicole
So you see how you can't really compare plain biking to running?
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It's true that they are two different sports.
But EXHAUSTION is comparable, if you like it or not. :)
Hannibal is making good points. They are different exercises, but if I were to run non-stop up a hill my fastest, exuastion would kick in much much quicker than riding a bike my fastest up the same incline.
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Sprinting can burn you out in the matter of seconds calling for an increased need for oxygen.
Sprinting jogging, biking, swimming. All to different. ;)
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It's because running is more balanced across your body than cycling. Unless you're very adapted to cycling specifically, and you're generally healthy, the main cycling muscles, the quads particularly, will begin to tire before you get out of breath.
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don't quite understand the discussion. I mean its true that biking up a hill can be more difficult than running, because of the nature of how the bike works, but as a general rule you are going to use less of your energy and endurance per distance on a bike and that wil afect your heart rate and be prone to differnt effects of oxygen etc.. unless that is stating the obvious.
I have no choice but to bike and it drives me crazy in bad weather. I would much rather run if feasable. I've never been much of a distance runner but can bike endless distances. I'm doing most of my cardio indoors doing various box jumps and lateral jumps, rowing and some static running and jump rope. these to me represent more efficent modes of cardio then the biking or running - at least as a comparrison to my biking which is mostly what I am familar with anyway. Can't really compare to regular jogging becuse I just don't do that much other than the runs at crossfit.
I like running as part of workouts with weights, multiple series of 500 m or 800 m back and forth...its intense. I won a bike sprint in ~26 seconds even though my foot slipped out - lost time - and had to pedal not strapped in. I have pretty good times on both rowing and ped sprinting but I wouldn't attempt these outside right now :) for the reasons listed in this thread in regards to conditions.
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Back to winter running, you don't need shoes to run in winter. It takes some time, but you can acclimate your feet to handle cold surfaces. I started January 1 here in Vermont (New Year's resolution), and can now run a mile or so through the snow, slush and ice before my feet feel too cold and I need to stop and put shoes back on. You do need to make sure you aren't running through salt, though. Salt tears your foot pads up, and will cause the skin on your soles to wear off very fast so that your feet will be raw even after very short runs.
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Actually when it snowed was when I started running barefoot again after going with vibrams for a few weeks in the cold/icy weather. Since I was running on tarmac, the snow actually provided insulation and made it warmer for my feet. Also, my vibrams were too slippy on the slush but my feet were fine. Grit was also no problem.
My experience is that my feet usually start off warm, cool off, and then get warm again and stay warm, when running barefoot in the winter.
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My experience has been similar.
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Actually when it snowed was when I started running barefoot again after going with vibrams for a few weeks in the cold/icy weather. Since I was running on tarmac, the snow actually provided insulation and made it warmer for my feet. Also, my vibrams were too slippy on the slush but my feet were fine. Grit was also no problem.
My experience is that my feet usually start off warm, cool off, and then get warm again and stay warm, when running barefoot in the winter.
Wow I don't imagine how you could do it. I tried to keep up my barefoot runniing in winter but one day my smallest toe started getting blue and it did fell numb so I put on shoes the next day. Maybe I will try again this year ;)
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I too am wearing minimalist running shoes, I like Merrell's I get 1/2 size larger than my foot to accommodate pure wool socks, no cotton at all. I have the leather ones $120, but they have water proof men's pair, when it is icy you can put the ice cleat things that go over your sneakers, I bought mine at walmart about $10. For high snow I wear gators. That's one option.
However, I just came across this video on my barefoot running site. The have a group called the barefoot savages for paleo barefooters, I think raw should be part so I stay in the group. They hardly talk about diet at all.
Please check this guy out. He (Wim Hof) ran barefoot north of the Arctic circle. He did get frost bite but, he healed it with meditation, and he had a medical team and lots of documented science checking him out. He trained his son and others to do what he does. I'm reading his book on Kindle its incredible. He also climbed Kilimanjaro and ran without water in the desert. He say he can controll his autonomic nervous system through meditation and breath work. He has trained himself to do this on the fly.
the next bunch of stuff is my attemt to attach a link to the youtube site.
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I'm so confused as to how to give you the link, so if you can't get to it from my attempts go to youtube and search for iceman barefoot running, the one I like best is through the discovery channel.
His website is called
www.innerfire.nl/english (http://www.innerfire.nl/english)
I don't think any of my attempts worked to provide links, I'm very sorry the website is www. innerfire.nl/english
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I don't think any of my attempts worked to provide links, I'm very sorry the website is www. innerfire.nl/english
I fixed what I could Adora. ;)
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He also climbed Kilimanjaro and ran without water in the desert. He say he can controll his autonomic nervous system through meditation and breath work. He has trained himself to do this on the fly.
This is great stuff. Thanks for sharing.
"tell me about your hobbies" haha.
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the kind of stuff he's engaged with...unfortunately is under the radar of many 'health' folks. Kinda shows the primacy of lots of (unknown?) factors in terms of how we can change our circumstances....other than through diet/cleansing of course.
Although, in my experience...eating a healthful diet has generally been a prerequisite to any kind of moving around of energy in any beneficial way. Some people figure out other paths somehow..
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This adds a new element to the "are people naturally tropical organisms or are they adapted to cold climates?" (can't remember the exact wording), discussed in an earlier thread.
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Wim Hoff apparently uses Tummo. (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTummo&ei=_Sv1TsLDNKe_0AHutoiHAg&usg=AFQjCNG5i2sQxxN0tuVytPvSKQfBkmOUCA&sig2=LyZdaeRfZqgSlLLEv40DzA) It comes from Tibetan Buddhism which, interestingly, allows meat consumption.
Even the Dalai Lama eats meat, which many people do not seem to be aware of. Meat eating is not only not necessarily bad, it can be sublime.
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I don't use any special techniques like Wim Hoff, but I also seem to adapt well to cold weather running and swimming. I don't think I'll be running a half marathon barefoot over ice and snow, but a couple miles wouldn't be a big deal. As the years go by I suspect it will become less and less of a big deal, and my ability to run a couple miles might eventually morph into the ability to run a half marathon.
I also swim in Lake Champlain throughout the winter, as long as I can find a safe place to get into the water (in colder winters the lake sometimes freezes over; it did last year so I couldn't swim from December through late March). I was swimming just yesterday on the winter solstice. I took the water temp after I got out, and my thermometer read 43 degrees Fahrenheit. I wasn't in the water too long, maybe just a few minutes, but then it's the first time I've been in since the water temps fell below 50 so I'll take things slow. I've noticed that when I first get in my muscles want to tense up, but if I can keep them relaxed then that initial feel of "Holy Shit the Water's Cold!" passes in a few seconds and it's easier to stay in the water. I do get out once I start shivering though.
I should try Wim Hoff's method of willing the body to be warm. I've trained in Qi Gong and martial arts more generally for over a decade, and have good control over my body's energy. I'm planning on going for another swim on Sunday if it's not too rainy, so I'll make a concerted effort to try warming my body while I'm in the water to see if I can notice any difference.
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Wim Hoff apparently uses Tummo. (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTummo&ei=_Sv1TsLDNKe_0AHutoiHAg&usg=AFQjCNG5i2sQxxN0tuVytPvSKQfBkmOUCA&sig2=LyZdaeRfZqgSlLLEv40DzA) It comes from Tibetan Buddhism which, interestingly, allows meat consumption.
Even the Dalai Lama eats meat, which many people do not seem to be aware of. Meat eating is not only not necessarily bad, it can be sublime.
If you don't eat meat in the winter in Tibet, you can die. There's not much food in the winter there, other than butter/cheese/meat, and the meat helps keep you warm. Tibet is coooold in the winter.
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If you don't eat meat in the winter in Tibet, you can die. There's not much food in the winter there, other than butter/cheese/meat, and the meat helps keep you warm. Tibet is coooold in the winter.
Does he still live in Tibet? I think wherever he travels, he eats meat one meal per day, breakfast or lunch. Says it's to be gracious, but there were reports he had been vegetarian for I think one year's time, got ill trying that, and his doctor then told him he has to eat meat for his health. I'm not sure where it was.
Anyway, people are always saying nowadays to tread lightly on the earth and take nothing but pictures, lighten your carbon foot print etc. Cows step hard and hurt your foot, smash the soil with tough hooves making it become hard to grow things, no? Felines and many predators step literally lightly with sensitive feet (lion & thorn fable), and I believe them eating the weak from the edges of the wild herds is helping take care of the Earth, something the Lama may understand.
Running, I should do this, need to find some running shoes, it may be too cold to run barefoot for me at the moment.
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According to news reports, the Dalai Lama's main home currently is in India, as he is in exile. He adopted a vegetarian diet after escaping to India, as a courtesy to his hosts. He became chronically ill on a vegetarian diet and his physician strongly urged him to add meat back into his diet, which the Dalai Lama did and recovered. One rarely hears about this, perhaps because of the pro-vegetarian bias and fear of red meat of much of the news media and Internet.
I've noticed many people respond with shock when they learn that most Tibetan Buddhists eat meat, including even the Dalai Lama, as pure vegetarianism and veganism have bogusly become strongly linked to all Buddhism and "holiness" in many Westerners' minds.