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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Health => Topic started by: goodsamaritan on December 17, 2010, 08:34:38 am
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I know a couple of senior men and they have prostate problems.
One of the things I observed is they let their health deteriorate to the point they have stopped being sexual. No sex. That should make any man sick.
I'm assuming all RPD practitioners at any age should have zero prostate problems.
Or am I wrong?
Or did you cure your prostate problems when you went RPD?
Or can you say after being on RPD for quite some time since you were younger, you never had any prostate problems?
You are always sexually active in your senior years?
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You can't always be sexually active...it gets rather tiring :/
Everyone needs a break :P Also some forms of meditation / spirituality etc are best done when you're not sexually active, but I do I think its unhealthy if your NEVER sexually active.
I think even the sexually active seniors get prostate problems though no? I think if you don't take care of your health sex won't help you that much, but then again who knows.
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One of the things I observed is they let their health deteriorate to the point they have stopped being sexual. No sex. That should make any man sick.
it's the other way around. they get sick first and then they don't want/unable to have sex.
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Vonderplanitz has some interesting things to say about that.
If his claims are for real than I think he deserves a high five!
I am almost certain that eating like this would be the only way to maintain ones health in all aspects.
Eating like this has only benefited me.
I don't know if I am the only one here who can say this but... my pee pee health has never been better, and I am at least .5 inches longer and a little thicker also. Pictures coming soon! (JK pictures not coming soon) :P
Size does not exactly indicate health but I'm not complaining.
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I can't say. I'm not a man. I've known men age 48 and up with prostate trouble, but none of them ate raw paleo or primal diet. At least one was vegetarian for years, maybe a little fish, no milk and eggs. He was on the low end of the age range. I doubt any of them had been sexual in a long time, but I don't know.
Do animals ever get prostate trouble?
As far as reproductive health, I think this diet has only helped me. My yearlies are fine. My periods are much better. After eating soy ten years ago (I normally avoided it) I got antibodies that the doctor said may make me miscarry (soy was not mentioned). After changing to RVAF all those antibodies were gone (tests came out negative). The soy may have been making me fall asleep during sex too, although maybe that was neurological rather than pertaining to sex related organs. I never asked a doctor about that one.
I don't know very many people in person who I eat with. Most of the people I know are SAD or veg, so I'll just have to read what you all write here.
I do know a cooked paleo guy, who's in very good shape. I imagine he is virile and very healthy. He couldn't be gayer though. Maybe I can turn him raw. He is interested in my raw, always asks me about it. Maybe we'll invite him and his friend to dinner, and show them some beautiful RAF.
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1. I'm assuming all RPD practitioners at any age should have zero prostate problems.
2. Or can you say after being on RPD for quite some time since you were younger, you never had any prostate problems?
3. You are always sexually active in your senior years?
1. Yes, as long as eating 100% raw paleo without any exceptions.
2. Yes, I can say that.
3. Yes, of course I am!
Francois
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My life changes dramatically within a month after I start RPD. There're so many issues with my pee pee things, even I remember peeing in public...etc. Also some other issues like married life is very challenging for me. I'm very shy to see a doctor to talk about my personal sexual life. But my husband is so kind to me. Now everything is solved.
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1. Yes, as long as eating 100% raw paleo without any exceptions.
2. Yes, I can say that.
3. Yes, of course I am!
Francois
What would be a healthy sex frequency for a 60 year old man? 70 year old man?
1 time a week?
1 time every 2 weeks?
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LOL! It's up to you! I all depend on the circumstances, your partner (or no partner), your personality, your mood. I don’t think there’s anything to worry about it: anything goes, be it 3 times a day for a while to once a month only - or perhaps even less for some guys...
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This is an interesting topic.
I think eating too much meat can cause a buildup of uric acid, urea, and purines in the kidneys, prostrate, bladder, and liver.
In a healthy body this shouldn't cause a problem, as the organs can excrete it out.
I think the amount/quantity of meat eaten in any one meal should be considered as an important factor in the potentiality of developing prostrate issues.
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LOL! It's up to you! I all depend on the circumstances, your partner (or no partner), your personality, your mood. I don’t think there’s anything to worry about it: anything goes, be it 3 times a day for a while to once a month only - or perhaps even less for some guys...
3 times a day! O0
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I don't care for the word "cure," but I have a relative with a somewhat high PSA score, so I'm bumping this thread. I know that at least one study has shown vitamin K2 to be beneficial as regards prostate and other cancers. Anyone have any other tips re: high PSA and minimizing risk of prostate cancer?
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I don't care for the word "cure," but I have a relative with a somewhat high PSA score, so I'm bumping this thread. I know that at least one study has shown vitamin K2 to be beneficial as regards prostate and other cancers. Anyone have any other tips re: high PSA and minimizing risk of prostate cancer?
A family member of mine uses palmetto with positive results.
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I suffer from an enlarged prostate. The condition became a problem before I started RPD. It is a condition that takes many years to develop and it can go without any symptoms for 30 years or more.
Since I started RPD, many issues improved almost immediately, however, there has been little or no change to my prostate condition. It hasn't gotten any better, but it hasn't gotten any worse either. I'm happy with this result. It was predicted that by now I'd be on very high levels of medication or possibly require surgery. At this point I'm on a low dose of Doxazosin (2 mg/day) and this is the only medication I take. The dose hasn't increased in almost 10 years.
Wish I could get off the meds but when I do, I retain some urine and then become subject to urinary tract infections. The small cost and inconvenience for taking the daily meds is a small trade-off for avoiding UTI's.
This appears to be one of those problems that might be avoided if I had started RPD early in life, but is difficult to cure once you have it. It could be that since it takes so many years to develop, it will take many years on RPD to mitigate the problem - if at all. Sort of like loosing your hair. Once you've become bald, many of the follicles die and it is impossible to restore a full head of hair.
Lex
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I suffer from an enlarged prostate. The condition became a problem before I started RPD. It is a condition that takes many years to develop and it can go without any symptoms for 30 years or more.
Since I started RPD, many issues improved almost immediately, however, there has been little or no change to my prostate condition. It hasn't gotten any better, but it hasn't gotten any worse either. I'm happy with this result. It was predicted that by now I'd be on very high levels of medication or possibly require surgery. At this point I'm on a low dose of Doxazosin (2 mg/day) and this is the only medication I take. The dose hasn't increased in almost 10 years.
Wish I could get off the meds but when I do, I retain some urine and then become subject to urinary tract infections. The small cost and inconvenience for taking the daily meds is a small trade-off for avoiding UTI's.
This appears to be one of those problems that might be avoided if I had started RPD early in life, but is difficult to cure once you have it. It could be that since it takes so many years to develop, it will take many years on RPD to mitigate the problem - if at all. Sort of like loosing your hair. Once you've become bald, many of the follicles die and it is impossible to restore a full head of hair.
Lex
Is this drug similar to Proscar? Proscar/finasteride is supposed to be good for the prostate and hair as well.
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I suffer from an enlarged prostate. The condition became a problem before I started RPD. It is a condition that takes many years to develop and it can go without any symptoms for 30 years or more.
Since I started RPD, many issues improved almost immediately, however, there has been little or no change to my prostate condition. It hasn't gotten any better, but it hasn't gotten any worse either. I'm happy with this result. It was predicted that by now I'd be on very high levels of medication or possibly require surgery. At this point I'm on a low dose of Doxazosin (2 mg/day) and this is the only medication I take. The dose hasn't increased in almost 10 years.
Wish I could get off the meds but when I do, I retain some urine and then become subject to urinary tract infections. The small cost and inconvenience for taking the daily meds is a small trade-off for avoiding UTI's.
This appears to be one of those problems that might be avoided if I had started RPD early in life, but is difficult to cure once you have it. It could be that since it takes so many years to develop, it will take many years on RPD to mitigate the problem - if at all. Sort of like loosing your hair. Once you've become bald, many of the follicles die and it is impossible to restore a full head of hair.
Lex
Have you tried raw oysters? On a regular basis?
My father in law had 10 years of back pain.
But a skillfull acupunturist, chinese herbs and raw oysters twice a week cured 10 years of back pain.
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I had some prostate issues that I think were due to yeast, I had painful urinating and I think my prostate was irritated by a yeast infection. I have never had a recurrence since changing my diet.
There is an old time folk remedy for dealing with an enlarged prostate. I know someone who swears that if you wait until you have to urinate and then piss out just a bit then contracting the prostate so that urine flow is cut of and then repeating these cycles of contracting and releasing the prostate will actually shrink back to a healthy size .
I am not sure exactly how it works, but if you repeat these exercises on a daily basis for a few weeks then improvements are almost guaranteed. Its worth a try for anyone with prostate trouble. The man who told me about it says that when he went back to the doctor for a follow up that his prostate shrank back down to the size of a younger mans, even though he was in his 60s and had been diagnosed with an enlarged prostate at the first appointment weeks earlyer.
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Is this drug similar to Proscar? Proscar/finasteride is supposed to be good for the prostate and hair as well.
I don't think so. It is an Alpha Blocker used as a muscle relaxant to allow urine to pass more freely through the prostate.
Have you tried raw oysters? On a regular basis?
My father in law had 10 years of back pain.
But a skillfull acupuncturist, Chinese herbs and raw oysters twice a week cured 10 years of back pain.
No I haven't tried either oysters or an acupuncturist. I've never felt that there is any evidence that our paleo ancestors ate things like oysters, and in fact the opposite seems to be true, therefore I stick to red meat. Don't know anything about acupuncture, but for those that I know that have tried it, it seems to be an on-going therapy for chronic problems like mine. Not sure there is much difference between having to regularly visit an acupuncturist and regularly taking a small amount of medication. Will have to think about this a bit more.
There is an old time folk remedy for dealing with an enlarged prostate. I know someone who swears that if you wait until you have to urinate and then piss out just a bit then contracting the prostate so that urine flow is cut of and then repeating these cycles of contrating and releasing the prostate will actually tone the gland and can reduce inflammation .
At the recommendation of my urologist I tried prostate massage therapy and it seemed to have little effect. I do know that it works well for some, but it didn’t work for me at all.
Lex
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Cordain pointed to evidence that showed that palaeo peoples ate raw oysters c.300,000 years ago, but I suspect that only applied to those in coastal areas.
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Thanks for the tips.
My own symptoms from benign prostate enlargement improved with Paleo and low carb.
I have read that evidence was found of Stone Age consumption of freshwater shellfish as well as ocean shellfish. Not that I would eat freshwater shellfish given pollution problems, but ocean shellfish are probably sufficiently similar to be a healthy food. They also provide the advantage of easy-to-consume organs and are rich in vitamin K2, minerals and other nutrients.
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No I haven't tried either oysters or an acupuncturist. I've never felt that there is any evidence that our paleo ancestors ate things like oysters, and in fact the opposite seems to be true, therefore I stick to red meat. Don't know anything about acupuncture, but for those that I know that have tried it, it seems to be an on-going therapy for chronic problems like mine. Not sure there is much difference between having to regularly visit an acupuncturist and regularly taking a small amount of medication. Will have to think about this a bit more.
300,000++ years of oysters vs 60 years of drugs?
8,000++ years of acupuncture vs 60 years of drugs?
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The difference is that acupuncturists poke you with needles while drugs poison you.
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I've never felt that there is any evidence that our paleo ancestors ate things like oysters, and in fact the opposite seems to be true, therefore I stick to red meat.
Native Americans on both coasts of North America considered oysters a staple foodstuff. Great piles of oyster shells in many different areas of the shoreline are evidence of the early voracious appetite for these mollusks.
I love oysters and I believe that they are richer in some nutrients than red meats. I use to eat about a dozen every two weeks. I also like clams. I believe they have healing properties that are complementary to land mammal foods. I would eat more if they wernt so expensive, after the price went from 8 dolloars per dozen to 12, I began to eat clams
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Lex,found a study you might find interesting:
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa030656
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Lex,found a study you might find interesting:
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa030656
As the former "ritalin kid" in the room,
I would have to say that a study done by a group of doctors is worthless to me.
Drugs are bad mkay
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As the former "ritalin kid" in the room,
I would have to say that a study done by a group of doctors is worthless to me.
Drugs are bad mkay
That's ok.I wasn't talking to you.My post was addressed to Lex.
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Estrogen dominance is the mediator of prostate enlargement. The organ that removes estrogen is the liver. If the liver is occluded and/or if bacterial overgrowth deconjugates bile in the intestine, estrogen backs up or recycles - causing excessive estrogen.
Maybe removing debris from the liver is a means to bring the estrogen levels down, as well as improving many other liver-related challenges. I'm not sure how straightforward this would be for older men with gallstones.
Worth considering though...
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That's ok.I wasn't talking to you.My post was addressed to Lex.
No one asked...
I will voice my opinion regardless of whether or not you want it. kthxbye
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can we remove the picture?
No sense in riling up this non issue.
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No one asked...
I will voice my opinion regardless of whether or not you want it. kthxbye
ok Ritalin kid.I guess you need the attention.
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can we remove the picture?
No sense in riling up this non issue.
picture? If you mean the study I posted,sure,no big deal.It's not RPD anyway.It just related to what Lex and I were discussing.
However,there's a certain poster who always seems to have snotty immature remarks to say on what I post.I don't have a beef with anyone here.It seems this poster enjoys posting immature comments and images.I'd rather discuss things with adults to be honest.It's up to you guys as to how you want to run the place.
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ok Ritalin kid.I guess you need the attention.
Helping a child with ADHD has nothing to do with receiving attention, fool.
snotty immature remarks
That's ok.I wasn't talking to you.My post was addressed to Lex.
Does any mature adult really think that statement was necessary?
I don't want to argue, but I am not going to treat you like the "king" you claim to be.
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I too had prostate probs. They left when I stopped drinking pasteurized milk years ago.
Re the hair loss Lex, I and my GF have noticed in the last 6 months or so that my hair is indeed growing back. I've been eating AV's diet for a little over a year. When I stopped shampooing was when it really seemed to return and now with maybe washing my hair with water once a week or less it is a lot healthier.
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Will king salmon and actup please stop with the non-issue?
It's all a common forum misunderstanding.
There's nothing to discuss or be ruffled about.
No more replies from any of you regarding the non-issue.
They will be moderated out of existence.
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Re the hair loss Lex, I and my GF have noticed in the last 6 months or so that my hair is indeed growing back.
:o That's awesome! Top center of the head or where?
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:o That's awesome! Top center of the head or where?
I have a wide reverse Mohawk. ;D ;D
It seems to be mostly growing in on the top, peachfuzz phase two ;D ;D
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I could appreciate photos much more!
That would make a great addition to the before and after section.