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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: deletemyaccount on December 20, 2010, 10:35:35 pm
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Hello my fellow raw fooders! I have a question about eating high meat... I eat high chicken and lamb about 4 times a week because I love the taste. I do have a question regarding combining it with other meats. For example, is it OK to eat high meat before my regular raw meals or does this negate the benefits. Sometimes, I eat about half a cup of high meat first and then I eat my regular meal of raw meat/fish/shellfish or eggs. Will this negate its benefits? I know that if I ate other non animal foods with it it would cause trouble, but is it OK to eat it with other raw meats or would it still defeat the purpose of eating it?
Thanks a lot in advance
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What are these benefits you mention from high meat? Surely not the taste!
Thinking of trying out some in the near future.
Worth it?
Phil
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What are these benefits you mention from high meat? Surely not the taste!
Thinking of trying out some in the near future.
Worth it?
Phil
I like the taste of high chicken, other benefits would be better digestion, improved mood and energy and euphoric feeling. It's worth eating it, but its a pain the ass airing out all of those jars outside :-)
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I have often combined eating high-meat with eating raw, fresh meat and that did nothing to alter high-meat's effects. However, combining high-meat with cooked food of any kind rendered the effects of high-meat mostly null and void. In the past, I often used to eat some high-meat before going to a cooked dinner or some such, as the ingestion of high-meat helped prevent the hangover-like effect I otherwise later got from eating cooked foods, and it also helped improve my digestion of the cooked foods, no doubt due to the excess bacteria in it.
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Also Stas86, can you get decent quality chicken in the US to eat raw. Or do you eat non-organic, grain-fed meats raw?
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I have often combined eating high-meat with eating raw, fresh meat and that did nothing to alter high-meat's effects. However, combining high-meat with cooked food of any kind rendered the effects of high-meat mostly or wholly null and void. In the past, I often used to eat some high-meat before going to a cooked dinner or some such, as the ingestion of high-meat helped prevent the hangover-like effect I otherwise later got from eating cooked foods, and it also helped improve my digestion of the cooked foods, no doubt due to the excess bacteria in it.
Thanks a lot for the information...I don't eat any cooked foods so I'm assuming I'm going to be OK eating it with other raw meats.
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I would say: better if it's all from the same animal's kind.
Francois
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Also Stas86, can you get decent quality chicken in the US to eat raw. Or do you eat non-organic, grain-fed meats raw?
You get some very good quality chicken from local farmers, but that's not an option for me right now so I just get mine from the supermarket. I buy the MBA Organic free-range chicken from the supermarket which is obviously a step down from the chicken that you can from the farmers, but I've never had problems with it at all and I've eaten up to 3 pounds daily when I craved it. I've even tried the regular supermarket chicken and I would definitely advise people to stay away from those as I've felt really bad afterwards. But the organic free-range supermarket chicken should be fine if you can't get grass-fed chickens. Chicken breasts are the best sources of niacin and vitamin b6 out there, and when combined with a little bit of butter, avocado, or some other animal fat can be quite tasty as well. Grain fed is obviously a bad choice if you can choose between grass-fed and grain fed, but if you're a college student like me, you have to go with what you can afford sometimes. I prefer to eat Wild Caught fatty fish, Oysters, Clams, Lamb and eggs instead of poultry. The chicken is very soothing for the nervous system and it can definitely help a person relax probably due to the niacin and other b vitamins that it contains.
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Hey Stas86,
Couple of questions. Just read your post regarding adrenal function, and needing a reasonable carb intake.
Do you combine your raw meats with raw veg, or do you always eat them seperate?
If you eat quite a lot of carbs do you eat them all in one sitting?
If you eat your carbs seperate, then how do you get on with the blood sugar spike being adrenally fatigued?
What do you use to grind/crush your squash?
Cheers,
Phil
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Sometimes, I eat about half a cup of high meat first and then I eat my regular meal of raw meat/fish/shellfish or eggs.
Wow! that's a lot of high meat at once!
I like the taste but in small amounts. I'd gag with that quantity.
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Wow! that's a lot of high meat at once!
I like the taste but in small amounts. I'd gag with that quantity.
I know AV usually recommends eating only tiny, marble-sized amounts of high-meat per day, but I have found that such small amounts simply do not give me the standard effect. I invariably need c. 2 mouthfuls(2 cubic inches?) of high-meat before I get that vast improvement in concentration levels and higher energy.
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I know AV usually recommends eating only tiny, marble-sized amounts of high-meat per day, but I have found that such small amounts simply do not give me the standard effect. I invariably need c. 2 mouthfuls(2 cubic inches?) of high-meat before I get that vast improvement in concentration levels and higher energy.
So you eat different varieties? such as fish, beef etc?
I did try larger quantities but it was too tough to get down. I may try airing it out more often. That might help.
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So you eat different varieties? such as fish, beef etc?
I did try larger quantities but it was too tough to get down. I may try airing it out more often. That might help.
I have experimented with all sorts of different high-meats made from:- raw eggs; raw muscle-meats, raw liver, raw tongue and raw heart, mostly from 100 percent grassfed, organic animals - oh, and raw fish . I found that raw muscle-meat was a disaster as high-meat as it gave me some weird toxic feeling re taste as soon as I bolted it down. Raw liver as high-meat was also a disaster as it quickly turned into a gooey liquid soup that I just couldn't stand eating. I similiarly couldn't stand raw eggs or raw fish as high-meat. So far, I can easily enjoy the taste of raw tongue, and especially raw heart - these are also solid enough in the high-meat state to be pickable(in pieces) with a fork, which helps. I like the taste of slightly aged raw muscle-meats and don't mind raw kidney that's been aged a couple of weeks only, but can't really handle them in high-meat form.
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I know AV usually recommends eating only tiny, marble-sized amounts of high-meat per day, but I have found that such small amounts simply do not give me the standard effect. I invariably need c. 2 mouthfuls(2 cubic inches?) of high-meat before I get that vast improvement in concentration levels and higher energy.
I saw Av eatting large bites of high meat along with his meal of aged meat in the Ripley's video. It gave me the impression that he ate allot of it personally, Does any one know why he gives such limited recommendations. I am personally eatting about a tablespoon of high meat every other day. If I eat it every day it loses its effect and if I eat more than a large spoon full I get too wired up to sleep at night, but I still like the effect.
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Hey Stas86,
Couple of questions. Just read your post regarding adrenal function, and needing a reasonable carb intake.
Do you combine your raw meats with raw veg, or do you always eat them seperate?
If you eat quite a lot of carbs do you eat them all in one sitting?
If you eat your carbs seperate, then how do you get on with the blood sugar spike being adrenally fatigued?
What do you use to grind/crush your squash?
Cheers,
Phil
I eat my meats separate from the carbs, but before going to sleep i usually have 3/4 of Acorn, Butternut squash, or parsnips with either chicken or fish so that I will sleep like a baby. I wouldn't mind my meats with the carbs with my other meals as it doesn't cause any digestion problems for me. Meat digests in an acidic environment and the carbs are alkaline but I don't have a problem with combing. No sugar spikes for me because I never eat the carbs by themselves. I just don't crave them and eating the starches or veggies separately just doesn't appeal to me. Actually, I eat some delicious raw red peppers by themselves because to me that's like eating chocolate and I take my time to savor this godly creation. I hope that someone mentions that red peppers aren't paleo because they're nightshades :-) The vitamin C content is amazing and sometimes I eat up to 8 peppers at a sitting.
I peel my squashes, cut 'em up and throw them in a food chopper/processor. Grind them to powder and mix 'em with my meats/fish and I may sometimes add a little garlic or herbs or raw butter if I can get some.
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I saw Av eatting large bites of high meat along with his meal of aged meat in the Ripley's video. It gave me the impression that he ate allot of it personally, Does any one know why he gives such limited recommendations.
AV has to recommend small amounts as high-meat is a very difficult raw food for people to get used to, as they have been primed by endless media-driven rubbish about food-poisoning scares re rotting meats. I suppose he figures that people should start with small amounts, therefore, and that those who get used to it will anyway increase the dosage until it starts working for them.
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Actually, I eat some delicious raw red peppers by themselves because to me that's like eating chocolate and I take my time to savor this godly creation. I hope that someone mentions that red peppers aren't paleo because they're nightshades :-) The vitamin C content is amazing and sometimes I eat up to 8 peppers at a sitting.
Red peppers have always been one of my favorite vegetables! Never ate so many at once, though!
Francois
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Hey Stas86,
So you eat all your carbs in one meal just before you go to bed then?
As you mentioned in a separate post needing maybe 100g of carbs per day, does this not spike your blood sugar, even when eaten with your chicken or fish?
Cheers
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Hey Stas86,
So you eat all your carbs in one meal just before you go to bed then?
As you mentioned in a separate post needing maybe 100g of carbs per day, does this not spike your blood sugar, even when eaten with your chicken or fish?
Cheers
Of course I don't eat 100 grams of carbs before bed. 40g at the max! I don't eat starchy carbs during during the day unless I'm working out, but I eat a few red peppers and and chew on celery during the day which also have a few carbs. for 100 carbs you would have to 2 pounds of squash which wouldn't be a very good idea if you were to eat this with a pound of meat :-)
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Thanks for the info Stas86.