Paleo Diet: Raw Paleo Diet and Lifestyle Forum
Members' Journals => Journals => Topic started by: Max on February 17, 2011, 04:02:51 am
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Hello everyone,
It has been a while since I've been on the forum. I hadn't done much raw, but about a month ago (around my birthday) I fell off the Paleo wagon. I am eating paleo again as of last week. This week I finally picked up my side of grassfed beef. I ate half a raw steak Monday. Then Tuesday I ate a whole raw steak today (Wednesday) I ate one as well.
So my meal intake looks like
8-10 ounces of raw grassfed beef.
100 grams of carbs from fruit. (Apples, Pears, Cantaloupe, Blueberries, Oranges)
Cooked Grassfed beef (my lunch I take to work)
I am having a hard time eating the raw meat. I sometimes gag if I bite off too big a chunk. Right now I am using a lot of willpower to get it down.
I will try and give updates as often as possible. I am hoping this journal will keep me accountable. I appreciate comments and advice.
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You could try the other approach, which is to slowly decrease cooking-rates over time until eventually you can eat raw meats at room-temperature. Alternatively, try raw animal foods which people get more quickly used to than usual, such as raw mushrooms, raw oysters/scallops, and raw steak tartare/ceviche and so on.
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Thank you for the advice Tyler.
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Hello all,
I figured it might me time for me to give you some information about myself. Why do I want to try raw paleo and what do I hope to get out of it.
Well I talked about this briefly in the welcome section of the forum but what led me to this way of eating was my injury. I injured my upper back/scapula/neck about 3½ years ago. I was doing a one arm military press with a 50lbs dumbbell in my left hand (not my dominant hand). I felt something in my upper back/scapula give way when I tried to force (cheat) the weight up using terrible form. Ever since then I’ve had some sort of pain in my upper back/neck/scapula area.
I tried western medicine. I did exactly what the doctors told me to do, to no avail. I tried physical therapy for months 3 different times. I tried lidocane patches. I tried muscle relaxers, anti-inflammatory drugs, and an anti-depressant (that was supposed to help with pain). I have had trigger point injections. I’ve been to two different chiropractors and an acupuncturist.
My best results have come from physical therapy (my shoulder feels more stable) and from adopting a cooked paleo diet (as it reduces inflammation throughout the body). My success with cooked paleo has led me to the forum and led me to trying Raw Paleo (from reading this forum it appears to be a healing diet).
Even if raw paleo doesn’t help with my injury, if it helps improve my overall health and well being I will happy. Some things that I hope the raw paleo diet will help are losing fat, gaining muscle, constipation, acne, and sleeping problems.
So right now I am doing scapula stabilization physical therapy exercises and have started eating raw paleo.
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The main benefits of a raw, palaeolithic diet involve losing weight and avoiding inflammation. Heat-created toxins derived from cooking, such as advanced glycation end products, are key factors behind inflammation.
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as for having a hard time eating raw meat, maybe there's something psychological in the way it's presented? take at a look at these and other beautiful presentations in the culinary section.
http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/display-your-culinary-creations/sashimi-from-beef/
http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/display-your-culinary-creations/air-dryed-burgers-yum/
http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/display-your-culinary-creations/salmon-addiction/
http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/display-your-culinary-creations/sashimi-t3039/
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I started off searing my meat for maybe 2 minutes or so and then went down with the time as the days went by and before I knew it, the taste and feeling I had from eating it, I was already chowing down on it completely raw. I did season and salt all my meat for just a while.. maybe two weeks or so. Then, I noticed I felt the best eating it plain and have been loving the taste ever since. It just felt so right for me after just a few days..
I hope you stick to it, as long as you don't force yourself and feel like vomiting or something..
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Let me first thank you all for the suggestions and for those wonderful pictures. They really do make raw meat look appetizing.
Today is going well. I work 2nd shift so I got to bed at around 1am last night. I woke up at 10am. It has been warm recently where I live (Wisconsin) so I went for a long walk. The sun wasn't out today but just moving around made me feel better.
After that I went to my last scheduled acupuncture appointment. It was very nice and relaxing and I really like the old lady who is my acupuncturist but I feel I've gotten all I can out of that line of treatment.
By the time I got back home it was 2pm and I was really hungry. I ate a raw t-bone steak and it wasn't too bad. I didn't gag at all and was able to eat it without incident. I have another one thawed for tomorrow in the fridge.
I think it helped being really, really hungry so tomorrow I will wait till 2 or 3 to eat as well. Everything is going good so far. I will keep you updated. For now I am off to work.
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Today I ate another T-Bone steak (Raw). I gaged a little bit because I took too big a bite, but I finished it. At work tonight I will eat 2 apples (organic), 2 pears (not organic), and 1 cup of blueberries. For a total of around 100 grams of carbs. I will also eat some cooked grassfed beef roast.
I told my brother, over the phone, that I ate a raw steak today. He wants to film it next time he is in town. I said that would be cool.
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Hey Max, you may want to try some raw jerky, its good and it will help you get more calories in. Then slowly get used to raw meat. Also if you are in need of tasty fat, you can get back fat or marrow. Those are very tasty sources of fats.
I like certain cuts more than others also. You may want to try different cuts and see which one you like more.
It's all a matter of time, much of it is mental, I remeber being similar to you. Eventually it taste good. At leats in my case. I love certain cuts and certain animals more than others. Just do your fair share of experimenting. All should smooth out.
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Thank you for the advice Sully. I think I will try and get more of a variety of raw foods. I was also considering raw eggs, lemon, and honey, together in a drink. Should I wait a while for that? I have heard some people have problems with raw eggs, and also with food combining.
Today I ate another raw grassfed T-Bone Steak. I seem to be going through a lot of my steaks from the side of beef I ordered. Hopefully by the time I run out of steak I will be able to eat raw hamburger. Raw hamburger would also be more convenient to take to work. When I eat steak I just use my hands and teeth to tear it apart. I couldn't see doing that at my workplace.
The meat went down about as easily as it did the last couple days. Tonight at work I am going to have 3 pears, 2 apples, and probably 2/3 of a pound of hamburger (grassfed, cooked, in patty form).
Side note: this forum ROCKS!!!
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Yesterday I cheated, pretty bad.
I had a half dozen cookies and 4 cups of coffee.
I was at my parents house and didn't have the will to stop myself.
I didn't eat any raw meat yesterday.
Right now I am eating some raw meat and bone marrow. I think I like the marrow.
Later today at work I will be eating cooked paleo.
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I am very exited about a new discovery.
I take a pound of grassfed hamburger (Raw).
Add 1 finely chopped onion.
4 finely chopped cloves of garlic.
Spice with turmeric, and a little bit of cumin and coriander seed.
I find this combination quite tasty. I think if I gradually reduce the spices then the onion and garlic, I will condition myself to enjoy raw hamburger.
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sounds delish! i used to do something similar, only i mixed the spices with egg yolk, and put that with my meat or ground meat.
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I had really hard time with eating raw meats before. Then I discovered that right spicing can do wonders. My favorite combination is thinly sliced raw beef or bison steak (usually sirloin) spiced with Himalayan salt, freshly ground pepper, a teaspoon of cold-pressed olive oil, chopped herbs (could be dill, parsley or cilantro) and a bit of balsamic vinegar. Mix together with you fingers, let stay for 5 min. and enjoy. It's delicious!
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I am very exited about a new discovery.
I take a pound of grassfed hamburger (Raw).
Add 1 finely chopped onion.
4 finely chopped cloves of garlic.
Spice with turmeric, and a little bit of cumin and coriander seed.
I find this combination quite tasty. I think if I gradually reduce the spices then the onion and garlic, I will condition myself to enjoy raw hamburger.
I started with ground lamb. For work, I cut meat off the bone into chunk sized pieces and eat it with a fork, so I appear to be more civilized-looking when I eat. You might want to try that.
Ryan
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The spices really seem to be helping. Yesterday was my first all raw day.
I'm trying to find a source of good pastured farm eggs. So when I do, I will try mixing the egg yolks in with my ground beef.
Also I am eager to try lamb raw, especially with some spices.
I am content with using spices now, but after I find the raw meat more palatable, I will transition away from the spices.
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The spices really seem to be helping. Yesterday was my first all raw day.
I'm trying to find a source of good pastured farm eggs. So when I do, I will try mixing the egg yolks in with my ground beef.
Also I am eager to try lamb raw, especially with some spices.
I am content with using spices now, but after I find the raw meat more palatable, I will transition away from the spices.
I'm glad to hear you are having success. Best of luck, the meat will taste better and better! My experience, at least)
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First off, I cheated from Paleo again. I had a job interview early in the morning (I work Second Shift). When I woke up I was tired. On my way to the interview I bought coffee and doughnuts. Also there is a cookout at my work that I am going to tomorrow. I want to keep up appearances with my co-workers so I will have a better chance of getting the promotion I interviewed for. But after I know if I got the job, my plan is to start eating raw hamburger (discreetly) for my dinner at work.
Side note: It is a lot easier for me to eat raw hamburger (grassfed) than it is for me to eat raw steak (grassfed). I think this is because when I eat the raw steak I have to chew each bit thoroughly or I can't swallow it. I gag if the bite is too big. But when I eat raw hamburger it’s already 'chewed up' so to speak and I have little trouble eating it.
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First off, I cheated from Paleo again. I had a job interview early in the morning (I work Second Shift). When I woke up I was tired. On my way to the interview I bought coffee and doughnuts. Also there is a cookout at my work that I am going to tomorrow. I want to keep up appearances with my co-workers so I will have a better chance of getting the promotion I interviewed for. But after I know if I got the job, my plan is to start eating raw hamburger (discreetly) for my dinner at work.
Side note: It is a lot easier for me to eat raw hamburger (grassfed) than it is for me to eat raw steak (grassfed). I think this is because when I eat the raw steak I have to chew each bit thoroughly or I can't swallow it. I gag if the bite is too big. But when I eat raw hamburger it’s already 'chewed up' so to speak and I have little trouble eating it.
It helps to prepare, that goes a long way. I will sometimes prepare my meal for the next day ahead of time, if it involves cutting meat off the bone and into pieces I can eat with a fork at work. I haven't done any drying but you could make jerky:
http://old.rawpaleodiet.com/recipes/
Ryan
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I don't know where my mind is right now. I feel depressed for sure. A Saturday night with nothing to do, and no one to hang out with. I only have myself to blame for cutting myself off from others, and at times I am happy with my decisions but right now I'm lonely.
Tomorrow, I have a feeling will be a better and brighter day. I'll at least have my job for something to do. Not that I don't have plenty to do for myself (if I could just get motivated).
This week, I am going to try to be 100% paleo and try to do only 3 cooked meals (while at work). Well here's to tomorrow being a better day.
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Go out and play with friends.
Sports or something.
Girls or something.
Why 3 cooked meals at work?
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I don't know where my mind is right now. I feel depressed for sure. A Saturday night with nothing to do, and no one to hang out with. I only have myself to blame for cutting myself off from others, and at times I am happy with my decisions but right now I'm lonely.
Have you considered taking Omega-3 supplements? They have helped my S.O. with her depression.
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Well I feel a little more optimistic today. The reason I've been down is my injury and chronic pain (back/scapula pain) is getting worse. It was getting a little better for a while. Now I've done something to aggravate it (I don't know what), and my back feels like shit today (and yesterday).
GS: I still eat cooked meals at work to blend in. I eat mostly fruit at work and some cooked grassfed beef.
Magnetic: I do have some supplements (omega 3, and others) but I stopped taking them when I went paleo. Maybe I'll start taking my fish oil again.
I'm going to try and do my best. Hopefully I feel better by tomorrow, or by the end of the week.
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Well I feel a little more optimistic today. The reason I've been down is my injury and chronic pain (back/scapula pain) is getting worse. It was getting a little better for a while. Now I've done something to aggravate it (I don't know what), and my back feels like shit today (and yesterday).
GS: I still eat cooked meals at work to blend in. I eat mostly fruit at work and some cooked grassfed beef.
Magnetic: I do have some supplements (omega 3, and others) but I stopped taking them when I went paleo. Maybe I'll start taking my fish oil again.
I'm going to try and do my best. Hopefully I feel better by tomorrow, or by the end of the week.
According to Andrew L. Stoll in The Omega-3 Connection, the traditional Inuit diet has 14 to 19 grams of omega-3 per day. I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice, I am just pointing out that according to doctors that recommend supplementing with omega-3 fish oil, you can go as high as 19 grams a day and it is still considered a safe amount to be taking (in fact I haven't heard of any side effects). Fish oil can be expensive though, so you need to consider that as well.
I stopped taking omega-3 recently as I am eating large amounts of raw grass fed meat but I think it helped to "jump-start" the diet. So even if you have to take a large amount initially just remember that you can dial it down once you have comfortably eliminated the high omega-6, cooked and other foods.
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Today will be an all raw day! Yay!
I think I will add an omega-3 supplement for a while, and see how I do with it.
Ate some raw grassfed hamburger a little bit ago, I will probably have some more in a few minutes. Then at work I will have 2 apples, 2 oranges, and 11oz of coconut water. I will also take some raw grassfed hamburger to work and eat it discreetly, probably at a different location than my co-workers are.
I am still doing scapula, rotator cuff, and neck exercises. They help ease the pain a little. I've got a chiro appointment on Monday. I think the more raw I eat, the less inflammation I have, the less pain I have. It is a large incentive to stay raw.
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Today will be an all raw day! Yay!
I think I will add an omega-3 supplement for a while, and see how I do with it.
Ate some raw grassfed hamburger a little bit ago, I will probably have some more in a few minutes. Then at work I will have 2 apples, 2 oranges, and 11oz of coconut water. I will also take some raw grassfed hamburger to work and eat it discreetly, probably at a different location than my co-workers are.
I am still doing scapula, rotator cuff, and neck exercises. They help ease the pain a little. I've got a chiro appointment on Monday. I think the more raw I eat, the less inflammation I have, the less pain I have. It is a large incentive to stay raw.
Glad to hear you are having some success! With regards to the inflammation, it makes sense as omega-3 fatty acids are anti-inflammatory.
Now can anyone here explain why grass fed bison is listed as mildly inflammatory:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/lamb-veal-and-game-products/10628/2
Shouldn't it be anti-inflammatory or is the IF rating a bunch of nonsense?
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Isn't that a -(negative)1(one) there?
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Isn't that a -(negative)1(one) there?
It is only slightly negative, but if you enter in 2200 calories worth, for instance, it adds up to like -208, moderately inflammatory.
Now I use raw bison because I am guessing that raw lamb is more like raw bison than it is like grain-fed lamb. In any case, I was surprised and thought the IF system must be a bunch of BS, or else I just don't understand it.
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Well I can't think of why grassfed bison would be inflammatory. I wouldn't worry about it.
Good news. I have been entirely raw for 4 days no cheats. Usually around 1-1.5lbs of raw grassfed hamburger each day, along with 100 grams of carbs from fruits like, apples, pears, cantaloupe.
Also, whatever I did to aggravate my injury has now subsided, and the pain is back to the baseline amount that I am usually in.
Also I ate raw meat in front of someone on Wednesday. I went to my Moms house for the afternoon. She was going to cook me some lunch (I almost let her). But I decided I didn't want to break my diet, when it has been going so well. She already knew about Paleo, because I had been doing it for a while. So I told her about raw paleo, how people have had success with healing various ailments. I told her about the positives of the diet, and I told her about some individual success stories. My mom is a pretty open and freethinking person and she has no problem with me trying this way of eating. So I ate some raw grassfed hamburger while she ate her lunch.
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Well I can't think of why grassfed bison would be inflammatory. I wouldn't worry about it.
Good news. I have been entirely raw for 4 days no cheats. Usually around 1-1.5lbs of raw grassfed hamburger each day, along with 100 grams of carbs from fruits like, apples, pears, cantaloupe.
Also, whatever I did to aggravate my injury has now subsided, and the pain is back to the baseline amount that I am usually in.
Also I ate raw meat in front of someone on Wednesday. I went to my Moms house for the afternoon. She was going to cook me some lunch (I almost let her). But I decided I didn't want to break my diet, when it has been going so well. She already knew about Paleo, because I had been doing it for a while. So I told her about raw paleo, how people have had success with healing various ailments. I told her about the positives of the diet, and I told her about some individual success stories. My mom is a pretty open and freethinking person and she has no problem with me trying this way of eating. So I ate some raw grassfed hamburger while she ate her lunch.
That's amazing, your mom is awesome. My parents freaked out a week ago when I ate raw meat in front of them. I had to carry my steak with me until dinner just so they wouldn't cook it. They aren't happy with me eating raw meat, but I am compiling a notebook of information about eating raw meat and other raw foods that I will give them to read.
I'm glad the diet is working for you.
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Thanks Magnetic,
It sucks that you don't have more supportive parents. I knew my mom would be ok with my new WOE, but I had her swear not to tell anyone. I don't think my stepdad or real dad would be supportive at all. So my plan is to keep the diet a secret from them until I am a paragon of health. When I have the results I want, to prove this WOE works, I will no longer keep it a secret (though I won't openly advertise it either).
Some things that I would like as a result of this diet.
1. Chronic Pain in mid-back/scapula region disappear.
2. Achilles tendon problem on left ankle healed and wrist pain in left wrist healed. (These pains come and go, depending on how much I use my ankle or wrist.)
3. No more acne.
4. No more constipation.
5. Develop a strong jaw and slightly bigger head (don't know if the head thing is possible).
6. Lose fat, gain muscle.
7. Improve circulation (my feet are always freezing).
8. Lighten my blue eyes.
Question for those who have gotten stronger jaws, or those who have healed themselves of an ailment. Did you notice more of a change when on ZC or when on regular raw paleo?
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Thanks Magnetic,
It sucks that you don't have more supportive parents. I knew my mom would be ok with my new WOE, but I had her swear not to tell anyone. I don't think my stepdad or real dad would be supportive at all. So my plan is to keep the diet a secret from them until I am a paragon of health. When I have the results I want, to prove this WOE works, I will no longer keep it a secret (though I won't openly advertise it either).
I am not one to tell others what to do, and I won't do that here. Sometimes you have to do what you find comfortable. However, I have to say that keeping our diets (whatever it may be) secret isn't much of an endorsement of said diet. I know that some members might want to achieve health first, and that is all fine, but if we are not confident and outspoken about how we eat, I don't see how eating raw meat will ever rise beyond being perceived by most members of society as a strange fad diet. Please do not take this as a criticism, it is strictly my view of the failings and trappings I see some falling into with either being secretive or apologetic about their diet, instead of confident and informed and assertive.
Some things that I would like as a result of this diet.
1. Chronic Pain in mid-back/scapula region disappear.
2. Achilles tendon problem on left ankle healed and wrist pain in left wrist healed. (These pains come and go, depending on how much I use my ankle or wrist.)
3. No more acne.
4. No more constipation.
5. Develop a strong jaw and slightly bigger head (don't know if the head thing is possible).
6. Lose fat, gain muscle.
7. Improve circulation (my feet are always freezing).
8. Lighten my blue eyes.
Don't worry, I am sure you will achieve all of these in time!
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Until, I reach some of my goals for the diet, there is no use in me openly advertising its effects (If I don't have myself and my own body to back up my claims). After I heal myself of some of the ailments I listed, I won't care what people think of my WOE, especially if I have proven It works for me. That being said I don't think I ever want to 'flaunt' this diet. I will simply eat the way I eat, and if some have questions about eating raw paleo, I will do my best to answer those questions.
Don't worry, I am sure you will achieve all of these in time!
Thank you Magnetic, I do hope I can achieve my goals in heath.
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So until yesterday I had been force-feeding myself the raw meats. I would thaw a certain amount out, then force myself to eat it, thinking it is what my body needs. Starting yesterday I ate only when hungry, and only continued eating until satisfied, not stuffed. I feel much better listening to my body telling me when to eat. It was pretty stupid to think I need X amount of food then force myself to eat so much. Oh well, Live and learn.
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So until yesterday I had been force-feeding myself the raw meats. I would thaw a certain amount out, then force myself to eat it, thinking it is what my body needs. Starting yesterday I ate only when hungry, and only continued eating until satisfied, not stuffed. I feel much better listening to my body telling me when to eat. It was pretty stupid to think I need X amount of food then force myself to eat so much. Oh well, Live and learn.
I am still having trouble with this. The problem (it is strange to call it a problem) is that raw animal foods are so satisfying and filling. The whole 3 meals a day thing is a paradigm based on a totally different way of eating. Sometimes I have to wait an entire day to get hungry.
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I am still having trouble with this. The problem (it is strange to call it a problem) is that raw animal foods are so satisfying and filling. The whole 3 meals a day thing is a paradigm based on a totally different way of eating. Sometimes I have to wait an entire day to get hungry.
I don't know what to say, I am pretty new at this. I would recommend that you listen to your body but that you don't starve yourself.
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So until yesterday I had been force-feeding myself the raw meats. I would thaw a certain amount out, then force myself to eat it, thinking it is what my body needs. Starting yesterday I ate only when hungry, and only continued eating until satisfied, not stuffed. I feel much better listening to my body telling me when to eat. It was pretty stupid to think I need X amount of food then force myself to eat so much. Oh well, Live and learn.
lol, i know it sounds so obvious but i still remind myself that listening to my body has ALWAYS guided me right. and the converse, that eating just to eat or increasing fat just to meet some percentage i read about has ALWAYS messed me up.
helps me to workout too.. that keeps my hunger at some regularity, which is important to me because when i skip a day of eating (like a travel day or something) my body gets a little 'off'.
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Hey Ioanna
Yes I have noticed exercise is helping me as well. (I can't do too much because I have a messed up shoulder and back.) I go for a long walk every day I can. I try and get as much sun as I can while I am outside. (In Wisconsin now so, my face is the only part of me that is getting sunlight.) I also do some joint mobility exercises and bodyweight squats. I think exercising helps keep my testosterone up, and I can use as much of that as I can get.
Side note: Cheated from rpd yesterday and today. I ate some popcorn at work, and some coconut cookies. This has further added to my resolve to keep to the RPD as much as I can, as I experienced some negative symptoms (inflammation and gas).
Additional note: Went to my chiropractor today. (In general I've been feeling better on RPD, and my injury doesn't hurt as much as it usually does.) He said the knots that are usually in my upper back are mostly gone and my neck alignment looks a lot better. :)
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Hey All,
I cheated Wednesday night at work, we had a pizza party and I ate some pizza (a lot of pizza and I had some cookies and a brownie). Today I am back on all raw RPD. My raw grass-fed hamburger is bland by comparison to the food I ate last night, but I know it is better for me.
I feel like I have been raw enough to see some improvements. Less pain and inflammation from my injury. Clearer skin, I think that might have to do with trying to get more sun. Also a loss of some body fat around my middle, while my arms are beginning to look more toned (this also might be from my increased activity level, or a combination or RPD and exercise)
I will keep plugging away.
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Hello All,
I was calculating the number of calories I eat raw in one day. And it is dreadfully low (1200-1400cal). But I feel plenty full. Should I eat more (like around 1800-2000cal), I can make myself eat more if I want. Or should I listen to what my body is saying???
I went to my dad’s house for the weekend, and I at a crap-ton of food (SAD). Once I started eating I couldn't stop. I think my body was very food deprived (quantity) eating all raw. I figure if I make myself eat more raw, I wont crave SAD foods and I won't break the Raw Paleo way of eating as much. But on the other hand, when I eat raw, I am less hungry overall (I don't know if this is because I haven't adjusted completely to raw yet or what?) Suggestions?
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Hello All,
I was calculating the number of calories I eat raw in one day. And it is dreadfully low (1200-1400cal). But I feel plenty full. Should I eat more (like around 1800-2000cal), I can make myself eat more if I want. Or should I listen to what my body is saying???
I went to my dad’s house for the weekend, and I at a crap-ton of food (SAD). Once I started eating I couldn't stop. I think my body was very food deprived (quantity) eating all raw. I figure if I make myself eat more raw, I wont crave SAD foods and I won't break the Raw Paleo way of eating as much. But on the other hand, when I eat raw, I am less hungry overall (I don't know if this is because I haven't adjusted completely to raw yet or what?) Suggestions?
I am experiencing something similar. I just forced myself to eat more, as my weight dropped to 117lbs. (I am 5' 9"). That was a little to low for me to feel comfortable. I have energy though. I think my body is not sending me the right signals re hunger.
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Yes, I think I am going to try and eat more. But today I am going to eat less. In fact I plan on eating nothing. I have been feeling bloated lately and my stomach has been upset. I think this is because I have been switching back and fourth between SAD foods and Raw foods. So today I fast. I haven't not eaten anything for a whole day, ever. I think the fast will be good for me. Then tomorrow, I will have just meat, and see if anything upsets my stomach. Then the day after I will have meat and fruit (but not too much fruit) and see if my stomach is still better. Then the day after that I will have meat, fruit, and eggs, and see how I feel.
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Hello All,
My injury has been acting up the last couple days. I've been solid on Raw for nearly a week no cheats. The only thing I am doing differently is I started eating egg whites. So I am going to cut those out, when I finish my yolks. I have about 4 dozen eggs left, then I will be done with eggs for a while. Also I want to go VLC starting in April. I will keep you all updated on my progress.
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Just finished a whole week completely raw paleo, no cheats!!!
Feeling good!
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Awesome!
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I cheated big time for a few days. My friend came into town from Japan. We hung out, we drank (alcohol), we ate (SAD). After those few days I felt terrible. I am now back on Raw paleo. I think I wasn't getting enough calories. I think my body was food deprived because I wasn't eating enough raw. So my cravings were crazy once I broke my Raw WOE. Now I plan I trying to eat more raw everyday, and to keep more raw food available in the house.
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It has been a while since I posted. The las two weeks I was probably only 60% raw by calories. The last few days I've been good (all raw). But for whatever reason I have hardly any energy.
I have a question for anyone who knows the answer. Are marrow bones supposed to have a dry kind of marrow in them, that is hard to get out. OR a wet (soft marrow) that comes out really easily?
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It has been a while since I posted. The las two weeks I was probably only 60% raw by calories. The last few days I've been good (all raw). But for whatever reason I have hardly any energy.
I have a question for anyone who knows the answer. Are marrow bones supposed to have a dry kind of marrow in them, that is hard to get out. OR a wet (soft marrow) that comes out really easily?
Both. Depends on the type of bone, lower leg or upper leg.
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Hey all,
It has been a while again since I posted. I am still trying to figure out what works best for me (how much meat and fat and fruits each day). Also I have cheated a lot lately and that is something I am trying really hard to get away from. What's happened is I go off this way of eating for a day or something, when I go see family or friends, then it becomes hard for me to get back to all raw eating. It usually takes a couple days of eating raw and cooked before I am all raw again.
I think part of this had to do with me not getting enough raw food when I ate raw. One pound of raw grassfed hamburger plus some egg yolks plus some fruit is not enough to sustain me for a day. So when I went off my Raw WOE, my body desperately craved calories and I would stuff myself with junk SAD food.
My new experiment is to try and eat around 2 pounds of meat/fat/organs ever day, with one piece of fruit.
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I forgot to mention that I ate my first Raw beef heart last week. It wasn't bad, but I didn't like the taste as much as my muscle meats, I am sure my taste buds will adjust in time.
I also ate a tongue last week and I liked that a bit better than heart, but not as much as my muscle meats.
This week I've been eating around 2lbs of meat per day, plus one fruit, plus 4-8 egg yolks. Today I am eating 1 pound of hamburger, 1 pound of heart, 1 apple, 2 marrow bones, and 4 egg yolks.
Thank god for the sun. It is finally shinning and warm in Wisconsin. Tomorrow's forecast, rain.
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I had some heart meat yesterday. It tasted fine. Did I adapt that fast?
The first heart I had was from Slankers. I thawed it out, and I didn't like it too much. The second heart I had was from a side of beef that I got a while ago. That heart tasted fine, I liked it much better. Both hearts were grassfed and they looked comparable. Any thoughts?
Also (on an unrelated matter) I slipped in a muddy part of a trail while hiking. I twisted my knee while falling down and it is pretty sore (the left side of my left knee). My plan is rest my knee for 3-7 days, walking minimally, besides at work. Also to stick to my raw diet completely, to reduce inflammation and promote healing. Hopefully it is better within the week and I can get back to my normal routine.
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Just got a really upset stomach about a half hour after eating a 1/2 pound of heart.
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In my experience heart seems to be more difficult to digest than muscle meat. I enjoy it occasionally, but I much prefer kidneys. It has a higher vitamin content than heart, it is easier to digest, and it tastes good (to me at least :D).
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I had some heart meat yesterday. It tasted fine. Did I adapt that fast?
The first heart I had was from Slankers. I thawed it out, and I didn't like it too much. The second heart I had was from a side of beef that I got a while ago. That heart tasted fine, I liked it much better. Both hearts were grassfed and they looked comparable. Any thoughts?
I noted the same with meat from Slankers and my local supplier. Just buy what you enjoy. :)
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Yeah,
I haven't tried kidneys yet because I heard heart was the easiest organ to adapt to (Taste Wise). I have some (from Slankers) and will try them sometime within the next few weeks.
I am going to try and get more organs next time I get a side of beef from my local supplier. Last time I only got heart and liver. Because that is what they offered and I didn't ask for the other organs. Next time I will ask for heart, liver, tongue and kidneys. I will also ask if I can get the organs from the other cows they butchered.
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OH MY SUNBURN!!!
I can't believe I was stupid enough to stay out in the sun that long.
Oh well, live and learn and rub raw bone marrow on the burn. Dude that rhymes!!!
My first raw paleo poem.
Oh well,
Live and learn
Rub raw marrow on the burn,
Help it might
Heal it will
Pain enough, I've had my fill.
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There is a supplement called astaxanthin (derived from algae/often found in fish) which acts a good internal sunscreen. I have experienced this effect for myself. It took longer for my skin to burn or peel, even at doses like 1mg. However, I probably don't go out as much as you do, so people who really get out in the sun should take like 4-8mg. Just a suggestion.
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There is a supplement called astaxanthin (derived from algae/often found in fish) which acts a good internal sunscreen. I have experienced this effect for myself. It took longer for my skin to burn or peel, even at doses like 1mg. However, I probably don't go out as much as you do, so people who really get out in the sun should take like 4-8mg. Just a suggestion.
Thank you for the suggestion. But I am trying to avoid supplementation right now.
My burn has fully recovered and I think I will be more moderate with my sun exposure. I hope to be very tan buy the end of the summer, but I don't want to burn again.
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Ok, for the rest of May and all of June my diet will consist of this. As much fruit as I desire each day, thought I will try to stay around 100 grams of carbs. As much Raw Honey as I desire each day. As many whole raw eggs as I desire each day. At least one pound of raw meat a day, more if I want it. And I will try and get some seafood once a week at least. Plus organs and raw marrow whenever it pleases me. In short, I am going to try and stay exclusively raw. If I give into sugar or carb cravings it will be raw food (honey, fruit). If I have cravings for fat I will eat raw fat, or marrow or eggs.
Side note: used to eat only egg yolks, but I like the taste better if I eat whole raw eggs.
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Tomorrow, or today depending how you look at it, I am going to travel far and wide (about 50 miles) to a mythical land known as Lacrosse WI. In this city I plan on buying a number of items that can be found no where in my home kingdom. Items such as fresh raw grassfed beef, fresh sashimi grade fish, really raw honeycomb, toothpaste with no fluoride in it, and mead. I don't plan on drinking often this summer but I want an alternative to beer and and hard liquor. I will probably pick up a watermelon, some cucumbers, coconut water and some other fresh fruit as well. But alas I feast alone. :(
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So I ate really good this weekend. 1 pound of sashimi grade blue marlin. Nearly a pound of sashimi grade yellowfin tuna. A half pound of sea scallops. A little over 2lbs of fresh grassfed hamburger, a bunch of egg yolks from a farm, plus watermelon, cucumbers, and apples. The raw seafood was a tasty but costly addition to my diet. Oh well.
Side note, I actually like the taste of the raw fresh grassfed hamburger. I never had not frozen grassfed beef before and it is sooooo much better than anything that has been frozen. It actually tastes really good!!! I didn't think I would enjoy the taste of raw beef so soon, but it is so good. I need to get more fresh more often. The problem is the drive to the store where I get all the items takes a lot of gas. Plus it is more expensive in the store than when I buy in bulk (a side of beef) from the farm. I might make it a once a week trip.
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So today I am doing a Raw Animal Food only day (ZC). I decided I wanted the throw in a zero carb day every once and a while because I hear it promotes increased testosterone. And I'm going swimming tomorrow and this will 'thin me out a bit' I think. I know it is impossible to consume zero carbs because carbs exist in small amounts in muscle meat, but I am using the term for convenience.
I started the day with 7 egg yolks, I hear the biotin in egg yolks is very healing for the digestive system, so I have been eating a lot lately. Then I will probably consume a little under 2lbs of grassfed meat throughout the rest of the day.
Tomorrow will be 90 degrees and sunny, and I'm going swimming. I just hope the snapping turtle in my parents pond leaves me alone.
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Told my dad and his girlfriend that I was eating raw foods. I was visiting them this weekend and I packed my own food. They were surprisingly cool with it. I don't think they really approve, but they didn't tell me not to do it. They just said be careful.
I bought some grassfed ground beef from a Co-op store some miles away. I got 8lbs on friday last week. It is in my fridge uncovered and I've probably eaten 2/3 of it. The top has dried out now and I am not eating the really dry parts. How long do you think it is ok for me to keep eating it?
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You can look up "High Meat", and that should tell you more about how long you can eat it. If you read Sully's journal, and a few others, some people even purposefully dehydrate their meat a bit to give it more "chewability". I just made that word up. -d
I can't really answer your question, but it does seem that high meat is quite a popular thing amongst some paleo dieters. You're already braver than I am, so I certainly personally wouldn't judge you either way you went with it. As far as health and safety goes... let's face it... who can know for sure? The medical establishment is misled and has been misleading us for years. I am uncertain what the definitive answer is on that.
Wish I could help more. But I bet you'll get some good answers if you look up high meat.
I watched a video about one guy who wouldn't eat any meat that wasn't several months old and well rotted. So... ???
Good job hanging in there!
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Thanks for the advice Amris, I think I will eat the rest of my ground beef today. It doesn't taste bad to me and I didn't get any negative reactions last night eating it. I did see Sully's video where he talked about chewability and the dried meat is definitely more chewable. My ground meat isn't high meat because it has been exposed to the air in my fridge the whole time. I will probably start eating high meat in a few months after I've figured out my WOE a little more.
Thank you for the encouragement.
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Hey Max,
In lieu of searching for fluoride-free toothpaste you could try using organic, aluminum-free baking soda. It is less expensive and more accessible in most cases.
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Hey Max,
In lieu of searching for fluoride-free toothpaste you could try using organic, aluminum-free baking soda. It is less expensive and more accessible in most cases.
Thank you for the suggestion Juzeza, I may have to try that. I did pick up a fluoride-free toothpaste already though. I don't put much on the toothbrush because the flavor is overpowering.
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I ate about 1.5 pounds of honey in the last 2 days. I will observe my body for the effect.
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I ate about 1.5 pounds of honey in the last 2 days. I will observe my body for the effect.
Wow thats a bunch!!
I though I ate a lot of honey. But that is in a whole different league!
Curious to see what is does for you.
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As far as I can tell nothing has changed. I might have a little more fat around my midsection but that is it. Before the 1.5 pounds of raw honey I ate over the past 2 days, I usually ate between 0-2 tablespoons of raw honey a day plus some fruit to go with meat and fat. I was constipated the last 5 days before the honey. It did help me go to the bathroom, maybe thats why I craved it so much? Maybe I was just craving sugar or carbs? Anyway, I'm going to lay off the honey for a couple days and then see if I can get back to just eating 0-2 tablespoons for a day.
I've always been a big sweet eater (cookies, brownies, ice cream, candy-bars, gummy-worms, Dr. Pepper, everything in the candy isle). And when I was going off diet last month and the month before I would eat a lot of sweets. So I am happy I stayed all raw while gorging myself on sugar. I know 1.5 pounds of honey is not optimal but I am not going to beat myself up for it. I can only move forward.
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I think that sometimes our bodies know what we need, and maybe we'll never really know why. There are a lot of good properties to honey. Perhaps it was just the thing your body needed in order to heal or help itself in some way. Perhaps you were in ketosis all the time and you ran out of body fat to siphon so your body asked you to build up a bit of a reserve for it to nip at now and again.
Either way, it's important to mark our successes, and recognize that our "failures" are really just learning experiences. Our society altogether too often demonizes "errors," when those are our very best learning opportunities.
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Either way, it's important to mark our successes, and recognize that our "failures" are really just learning experiences. Our society altogether too often demonizes "errors," when those are our very best learning opportunities.
These are wise words. I often find myself stressing over decisions I should be more careful about when it comes to my health. This perspective helps one to relieve the stress. ;)
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Yes I do believe for me right now a willingness to compromise is a good thing. Went out to breakfast with some friends after a night of drinking mead and wine. A practice I am seriously considering giving up permanently. At breakfast I ordered steak and eggs. So I ate rare steak, over-easy eggs and some bacon. Not too bad a cheat meal I think.
Eventually I want to be to the point where I feel comfortable telling people that raw foods is my WOE (way of eating) and that I don't feel the need to compromise my diet to be social. That is an evolutionary step that I am not quite to yet with some people. My immediate family knows about me eating raw and that is it.
One step at a time, one day at a time.
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SOO MUCH HONEY. I've eaten a lot of honey recently, probably 4lbs in a week and a half. I can tell I've gained some body fat... I feel less then optimal with all my carb bingeing. I am thinking I might go VLC for a while and see how I feel. If it feels good then I am going to try RZC. Because all these carbs from all this fruits that didn't even exist in the wild, and the copious amounts of honey I ate, can't be good for me.
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About to try my first bite of Raw Grassfed Beef Liver...
Not as bad as I thought it would be.
Reminds me of scallops a little. The flavor is hard to describe besides saying that it is Different. I'm chasing the liver down with some grassfed hamburger.
Just finished my liver, I'd say 1/4 pound. My reward... Some fresh tasty grassfed hamburger :)
I'll eat some more liver tomorrow.
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So I was sick last night, and also today. A runny nose. Sneezing. Jaw ache. Lack of focus. Maybe it was the liver I ate? Maybe it was the fact that I cleaned my room and probably inhaled too much dust? Maybe the sashimi I ate at this Japanese restaurant was bad? But I think it was that I had some plum wine, some hot sake, and some cheesecake at the Japanese restaurant. I thought I was treating myself. But I think I was just treating myself to illness. I hope I am better Tomorrow.
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Strange Occurrence.
I had a cold, a jaw ache and the sniffles Friday night. I woke up Saturday with the same symptoms. Fresh air seemed to help. I spent most of Saturday tracking down locations for natural spring water. It was quite an adventure. I talked to a stranger about an old spring house (the roof had collapsed) on her property, then I collected some water for 'testing'. I drank the water. Not much maybe a cup. Felt fine. Then next spring I found I had to hike through tall grass, weeds and brush, waist high, to get to it. It was very difficult, that one was unattended and had a more dubious nature about it. I drank probably a cup of water from there as well. The last spring I went to was an artesian well, that is widely used for drinking water by people in the area. I drank a lot from that spring and gathered about 3 gallons.
I got back home at around 9pm. I stopped drinking water at 8pm, and other than the same sniffles that I'd had all day I felt fine. I ate some meat and fat (1/2pound). The same meat and fat that I had had earlier in the day (probably 1/2 pound at 1 pm) At 10pm I started getting a stomach ache. That turned into the 'stomach ache of the century'. I also got feverish. I laid down in bed and covered myself in blankets. If I got out of bed I was shaking because I was so cold. I while in bed I was sweating like crazy. I had very interrupted sleep for the first 3 hours. I felt horrible the whole time. My mind was trying to figure out what did this. Was it the water? Was it the food I ate yesterday? After 7 hours I woke up. Still with a bad stomach ache still with a runny nose. I wanted to try and sleep this off a little more. I slept for another 7 hours. About 14 hours of total sleep.
I didn't have a runny nose today, my stomach still hurts, but not as bad as yesterday. I decided not to eat anything today, because I thought it would help with healing, and I wasn't that hungry. My stomach is still sore (lower abdomen area, below navel).
I hope I feel better tomorrow. I haven't been sick in a really long time. I hope this is a minor setback in health, not a major one.
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Spring waters high in minerals are known to cause stomach ache. But nothing of this magnitude I think. Maybe one of the springs had been contaminated in some way. If I was to drink from a natural spring in a pristine clean area I wouldn't have any problems with it. But in our toxic world any spring close to civilisation I would have analysed before I would drink from it regularly. Drinking a few sips contaminated water isn’t that bad usually however if you drink it daily toxins might start to build up in the body. Especially heavy metals leached in the ground are a problem. Better safe than sorrow I’d say get your water tested. Oh don’t let anyone tell you the water is tested safe. Judge the values yourself. High chlorine levels are considered safe for example.
Hope you get well soon. Just in case you did ingest some toxins from one of those springs you might want to eat quite a bit of fat to help transport them out the body. Activated charcoal might help clean your digestive track of whatever it is that is making you sore.
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It's most probably the spring water. I've had a similar experience with bottled spring water high in minerals, it completely messed up my digestive system by the time I figured out it's the water.
Try to also eat as many apples as you can, they are high in pectin which acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals (in case the water was polluted or something).
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I feel better today. My only remaining symptom is a small stomach ache. I think one of the springs was contaminated and that my immune system was down from the cold I had. I think the combination was what caused my fever and severe stomach cramps/ache.
Yesterday I fasted, only drinking the spring water that I 'trust'. I think I will have it tested. I ate 1 whole egg mixed with 2 yolks for breakfast and right now I am going to eat some grassfed hamburger and some suet. Thank you for the advice pOwer and HIT_it_RAW, I think I will be more careful next time.
Power, was the bottled spring water that messed you up was that treated, heated or filtered?
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It was the Sonnenquelle from here: http://www.st-leonhards-quelle.de/ha_Wasser.html?current_mp=6
Seems the only treating is the mandatory removal of iron from the water.
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My stomach still has some ache today. I am going to not drink the spring water for the next few days and see if it will go away.
p0wer, How long did it take for your symptoms to improve after you stopped drinking spring water?
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About 3 days. I read it's possible that it blocks/slows down stomach emptying (in particular because of the high hydrogen carbonate content).
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My stomach ache is all the way gone. I think it might have been a Urinary Tract infection that got into my kidneys because of the symptoms. To get the pain away, I bought dried cranberries and some cranberry juice (pasteurized :(), because that was all I could get.
Back on raw.
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Hey All,
Been about a week since I posted. I went away for last weekend and ate and drank and was merry. Then I had a difficult time switching back to raw. I was watching my parents house this week, they were out of town. I they had a bunch of goodies (cookies, chocolate) and I couldn't help myself so I ate SAD for two more days (Four days total, including last weekend). I am back to raw, I am sad that when I go off diet, I go on these horrible binges. At my rental house I don't keep any 'temptation food' in the cupboards. This helps.
I am thinking about trying Raw ZC, as I am tired of pussyfooting around it. I always planned on RZC being my ultimate destination (if my body does well on it). I have a cookout to go to with work people this Saturday, I will try and stick to cooked paleo, but after that I will give RZC a try.
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I've started ZC today. I just ate a 1/3lb of kidney. I didn't like it. Maybe I will try and eat a 1/2lb of organ meat 5 times a week.
Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Concerns?
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I prefer lamb liver and kidney, both for their taste and size. One small lamb kidney just about does it, and I don't get those often. One medium lamb's liver is my usual weekly purchase. At around 1/12 pounds, it makes about 4 servings. I eat one or two ounces of marrow at a time, every day or every other day. I working on getting a brain, I think I'll like it. Heart is so-so for me. BTW, I cycle between ZC and low carb - following instinct.
So, my comment is: try lamb!
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Eveheart, I am getting a whole lamb from a grassfed farmer early this fall. I can't wait. I've only had lamb a few times, and that was many years ago, and cooked.
I am on day two of Raw ZC and I feel tired. I could barely stay awake today, even though I had over 8 hours of sleep. I put in an order to slankers for pet food. I hope I find that more palateable than the organs I've eaten whole. :)
On a side note I started running sprints last week mon, wed, fri. Then today I ran my first sprint and I pulled a muscle in my inner thigh. I walked home after that. I hope the injury heals itself fast. I don't think I will be sprinting for a few weeks (maybe a month).
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Lucky you... you will learn a lot with a whole lamb. I want to learn how to butcher lamb. I can recognize all the cuts now just by the way they look. Lamb fat is my favorite fat!
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I did ZC for about 5 days. I was feeling tired, no energy, but otherwise okay. Then I binged on SAD food that weekend when my friend came into town. I am now back on ZC for the last 2 days. I want to stay 100% ZC until August 6. That is my mom's birthday (50) so I decided since we would be traveling to see relatives I would eat what everyone else eats. An then after that day go straight back to ZC (if its working for me still).
This WOE gets old but I can see results even from my lax implementation of the diet. I want to try and be 100% raw so that I am not taking two steps forward and one step back. I want to stay 100% raw ZC and see where it takes my health.
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I hate how I write my last post yesterday and then I ate all kinds of SAD shit that night (soda, chips, candy). I can only move forward from here and try to stay ZC. So I guess today is my new Day 1 of ZC.
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Right now I am Day 4 RZC.
My energy is definitely lower, and I definitely have been sleeping a lot the last few days. My only goal for the next two week is to stay RZC, sleep and rest as much as I can, go for walks and bike rides, and get plenty of sun. Hopefully I will be adapted to using fat for fuel instead of carbs. Right now my body and brain don't seem to work as well as they used to.
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Just finished Day 5 RZC.
Some of my old injuries and pains started hurting yesterday. I think maybe my muscles are not supporting my structure as well. I sleep a lot and I feel tired during the day. But I have more energy than the day before, so maybe I am adapting. I am definitely going to stick it out, and see how I feel compared to with carbs.
Tomorrow I am going to go on a long (2hr) bike ride with my mom. I will see how my body reacts to the increased exercise level.
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I am on day 6 of RZC. Definitely the longest I've ever gone without carbs. I fee better today, still probably not at full energy yet. Went on a 2 hour bike ride today. That went fine. I think posting as often as possible keeps me on the right path and keeps me from cheating with other foods.
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Max, how are things going? I see you haven't posted in awhile. Hope all is well.
I have been eating RZC now for 11 days and it has gotten easier for me. The hardest part for me has been knowing when to stop eating (that is, stopping when I am full). I notice a subtle change in the flavor of my food and it is no longer palatable, so I just put my leftovers away until the next day. I have been eating lots of fat, which I wasn't doing before. Fats are key for me.
I am not a big fan of heart either. I just eat a little bit here and there, really just a few ounces with some meals, which are mostly ground beef and fat. I eat it for the CoQ10. Like you, I find that sometimes it tastes good and othertimes not so good. I just make it the first thing I eat. When I am hungry I am less picky about taste.
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Max attack is back!
Ready to give this another go. I fell of the wagon there in August, although i mostly ate cooked paleo. My grandfather died and I was under a lot of stress for many reasons.
I've been RZC September 1st and I am feeling pretty good this time, like I can stick with it.
I still have chronic pain in my upper back/neck/shoulder but I am optimistic that I will be able to cure that within a year. I will keep everyone up to date on my eating and my actions taken to cure my pain.
Right now I am eating some ground lamb. It's ok, I think I like beef better. I have been doing ZONE Therapy for my pain. I don't know if its helped with my pain, but my attitude is always better after a session. Also the last few days I have been doing Joint Mobility exercises from Pavel's book Super Joints. I do think that is helping a little with my pain. I thinks some or maybe even the majority of the pain I experience is from structural problems (mild scoliosis, lax tendons) in my body.
I'll try and be more consistent with my posting.
-Max
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It has been a while since I gave an update. I am spending less time on my computer.
Right now I am zero carb. I am eating some grassfed ground beef and suet right now. I plan on sticking with zc for a while. I have been zc for about 8 days, and was all raw for about a week before that. Before Oct 1st I had been on a mix of raw and cooked paleo with occasional SAD binges. Not the healthiest.
Along with zc I am started doing yoga 3 times a week. I do about an hour of joint mobility exercises and another hour and a half of postural exercises every day.
My goal is to eventually heal the injury in my back, neck, and shoulder. I want to live pain free again.
What I want to get out of zc:
1. Tighten up tendons as mine are lax and over-flexible ( I also think this would improve my body's structure and posture)
2. Get rid of all acne forever.
3. Get rid of body fat, gain muscle.
4. Get rid of constipation.
5. Improve circulation (no more cold hands and feet)
6. Have strength and energy to accomplish things during the day.
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I feel good right now. I was just talking to my dentist, who is expanding my upper and lower arches with a light wire system, and we were talking about changes in the body and mind and how they are gradual. Also life is what you make it and your outlook will manifest itself anyway it can. I am thinking positively about who I am becoming even though my neck hurts bad right now. I am in the process of getting better. I am in the process of becoming who I was meant to be.
Side note: Right now I am eating 1/2 pound of raw grassfed hamburger.
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Almost a year since my last post in the journal section. I am happy to report that I am 95% pain free. What cured my was a book called Healing Back Pain: The Mindbody Connection by Dr. John Sarno. I can't explain the book's method as well as the author can but if you have chronic back pain or pain from an injury that hasn't gone away READ THIS BOOK. It changed my life. I was in pain for 4 years and tried everything in western medicine and just about every alternative therapy you can think of as well. Thanks Wodgina for suggesting the book.
Side note... I am experimenting with raw paleo again. Raw eggs, Raw grassfed beef with spices and raw onion, and also with organic, non-homoginized, grassfed dairy that has been pasturized to 145 degrees as I cannot get it raw where I live. I plan on trying to gain a lot of muscle now that I am healed and I think mostly raw paleo will help me do that.
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Almost a year since my last post in the journal section. I am happy to report that I am 95% pain free. What cured my was a book called Healing Back Pain: The Mindbody Connection by Dr. John Sarno. I can't explain the book's method as well as the author can but if you have chronic back pain or pain from an injury that hasn't gone away READ THIS BOOK. It changed my life. I was in pain for 4 years and tried everything in western medicine and just about every alternative therapy you can think of as well. Thanks Wodgina for suggesting the book.
Side note... I am experimenting with raw paleo again. Raw eggs, Raw grassfed beef with spices and raw onion, and also with organic, non-homoginized, grassfed dairy that has been pasturized to 145 degrees as I cannot get it raw where I live. I plan on trying to gain a lot of muscle now that I am healed and I think mostly raw paleo will help me do that.
Esther Gokhale's work is also very useful for back problems, probably more useful in my experience. I am familiar with Dr. Sarno's book though, he makes some excellent points.