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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Off Topic => Topic started by: laterade on March 24, 2011, 10:43:42 am
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To hell with that cowardly sh*t.
Anyone ever heard of "divide and conquer"?...
Does anyone here still publicly submit to the shepherds will by "choosing" which restrictive law will be violently imposed upon themselves while hiding in a secretive little booth?
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Here's a Way to Eliminate the Regulators and Lawyers, and Build Community At the Same Time: Organize and Declare "Food Sovereignty," Like Sedgwick, Maine
http://www.thecompletepatient.com/journal/2011/3/7/heres-a-way-to-eliminate-the-regulators-and-lawyers-and-buil.html (http://www.thecompletepatient.com/journal/2011/3/7/heres-a-way-to-eliminate-the-regulators-and-lawyers-and-buil.html)
this town agrees....it will happen, willingly or otherwise, the system in place is a failing system, only those who wish to fail will choose to follow the path that system has set in place....
its amazing to me that the people who run this country are the only informed individuals cowardly and untrusting in a higher faith enough not to admit what is going on on the earth right now, not to admit their faults, and what those uninformed have been lead into believing and trust that there is a more pleasant solution than what it seems we are headed towards now. i have no doubt those few who we have agreed have the power to control the masses are smart enough to figure out a way to slow down our destructive behavior towards each other, our communities and the environment, but they would really just have to stop concerning themselves with their own security(ie destroying others to secure their own future prosperity, which is grim considering what is happening to the world in the process.........) and focus on healing the populous instead of poisoning them and building back the environment to create healthier creatures and plants, educating the human population on stewardship, compassion and alturism and focusing on leading the earth towards health so that it can operate as a healthy systems that works to enrich all other systems within its own environment.....how are we so disconnected and forgetful?
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People just aren't thinking, they are being programmed by TV
My grandmother thinks socialized medicine is teh best tang evar.
What they think is happening...
Group contribution for the greater good so little poor children can be healthy.
If you oppose OC that means you hate both children and black people.
Reality...
Stealing money from all living within a certain area to give to the group of doctors whom are failing epically, but of course they think doctors are doing a great job keeping them alive on pills since their 50s.
They just don't want to see a bill when they get a boo boo so they take the bill every week and hire mercenaries...
Obamacare= stealing money to pay for drugs on an enormous scale... Damn crackheads have taken over democrazy
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Great link Jessica.
This makes me want to move to Maine!
ARIZONA bureaucrats are allegedly thinking about arresting federal agents who try to cut into their pie and enforce rules that conflict with the AZ rules, whatever that means. Hopefully this means I can call the cops on the FDA if I have to, and hopefully local officials won't get on their knees and start lubing up when they arrive on scene. Or at least not make arrests when people forcibly protect themselves from this giant machine.
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i came across this excellent website...via citrusguys that talks about state sovereignty and a variety of other topics....i think at this point its more about mutiny but we shall see
http://morphcity.com/success/state-sovereignty (http://morphcity.com/success/state-sovereignty)
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Voting and grains are for slaves.
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its extremely important to work on create a system that does work though
honestly native grass seed is FUCKING expensive, to feed those dear grass animals you eat up, the effects of industrial agriculture and humans insatiable need to own and destroy or augment natural landscapes and habitiats does and will continue to effect your food supply
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Richard Mack is great, "Oathkeepers" is an organization everyone should look into.
They are labeled terrorists by the nannies, so you know they are legit.
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i have gone though a number of phases on this but i never voted.
phase 1 - apolitical ( just watched my MTV etc when i was ~ 15 )
phase 2 - partisan ( thought democrats were good and republicans evil )
phase 3 - nonpartisan, libertarian ( supported Ron Paul and Rand Paul with campaign donations )
current phase - i don't give a f*ck !
it's hopeless ! the people always were, are and always will be dumber than sh1t. they elected Hitler, they re-elected Bush FORGET IT ! they will never get a clue and i'm not going to lift my finger any more to try and save them from their own stupidity.
there are some people in my family on which i have spend hundreds if not thousands of hours explaining certain things to them and they still don't understand anything - and an average voter is even dumber - and the only thing it hears are government lies. most of us could not even imagine how dumb an average voter is, because most of us don't spend our day talking to deaf-blind grandmas in florida. politicians actually do this - not because they care - but because if they didn't, they wouldn't believe how dumb these people are themselves.
and here is the worst part of all - voters are getting DUMBER. with all the food additives and toxins in the environment Alzheimers now strikes people at age 50 and in some cases starts to develop as early as 30. at the same time these pieces of shit now live to 80 and of course they don't actually start voting until they lose their f*cking minds which they didn't have to begin with. so the average voter dumb as it is is getting dumber.
i have NO hope for the future of this country.
http://www.diy-av.net/
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i have gone though a number of phases on this but i never voted.
phase 1 - apolitical ( just watched my MTV etc when i was ~ 15 )
phase 2 - partisan ( thought democrats were good and republicans evil )
phase 3 - nonpartisan, libertarian ( supported Ron Paul and Rand Paul with campaign donations )
current phase - i don't give a f*ck !
it's hopeless ! the people always were, are and always will be dumber than sh1t. they elected Hitler, they re-elected Bush FORGET IT ! they will never get a clue and i'm not going to lift my finger any more to try and save them from their own stupidity.
there are some people in my family on which i have spend hundreds if not thousands of hours explaining certain things to them and they still don't understand anything - and an average voter is even dumber - and the only thing it hears are government lies. most of us could not even imagine how dumb an average voter is, because most of us don't spend our day talking to deaf-blind grandmas in florida. politicians actually do this - not because they care - but because if they didn't, they wouldn't believe how dumb these people are themselves.
and here is the worst part of all - voters are getting DUMBER. with all the food additives and toxins in the environment Alzheimers now strikes people at age 50 and in some cases starts to develop as early as 30. at the same time these pieces of shit now live to 80 and of course they don't actually start voting until they lose their f*cking minds which they didn't have to begin with. so the average voter dumb as it is is getting dumber.
i have NO hope for the future of this country.
http://www.diy-av.net/
Who needs countries? All we need are people producing goods and services that others demand.
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too bad what other people demand is shit........too bad what we choose to produce is shit.....
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i have gone though a number of phases on this but i never voted.
phase 1 - apolitical ( just watched my MTV etc when i was ~ 15 )
phase 2 - partisan ( thought democrats were good and republicans evil )
phase 3 - nonpartisan, libertarian ( supported Ron Paul and Rand Paul with campaign donations )
current phase - i don't give a f*ck !
it's hopeless ! the people always were, are and always will be dumber than sh1t. they elected Hitler, they re-elected Bush FORGET IT ! they will never get a clue and i'm not going to lift my finger any more to try and save them from their own stupidity.
there are some people in my family on which i have spend hundreds if not thousands of hours explaining certain things to them and they still don't understand anything - and an average voter is even dumber - and the only thing it hears are government lies. most of us could not even imagine how dumb an average voter is, because most of us don't spend our day talking to deaf-blind grandmas in florida. politicians actually do this - not because they care - but because if they didn't, they wouldn't believe how dumb these people are themselves.
and here is the worst part of all - voters are getting DUMBER. with all the food additives and toxins in the environment Alzheimers now strikes people at age 50 and in some cases starts to develop as early as 30. at the same time these pieces of shit now live to 80 and of course they don't actually start voting until they lose their f*cking minds which they didn't have to begin with. so the average voter dumb as it is is getting dumber.
i have NO hope for the future of this country.
http://www.diy-av.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSROlfR7WTo
Extremely relevant.
Me:
phase 1 - apolitical
phase 2 - partisan ( thought democrats were good and republicans evil )
phase 3- realized they were the same and supported green party (You have to admit that the green party is at least much better than the corporate welfarist main parties.)
phase 4 - nonpartisan, libertarian; realized that larger government invites opportunities for corruption (Ron Paul/Bob Barr) If one of them actually gets elected, I will probably say that THERE IS A GOD XD. Alas, it will never happen.
current phase - i don't give a f*ck ! I'm going to die one day anyways. It's not like I have to deal with bullshit government for an eternity. I want to enjoy life, and I'm just going to do my part in making this world a better place, even if it is insignificant.
A nonpartisan list of politicians I actually respect for not being evil as F***:
Ron Paul (R)
Bob Barr (L)
Ralph Nader (G)
Dennis Kucinich (D)
Rand Paul (R)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk
<3
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk
yeah Carlin in the 90s had some great analysis of the whole situation here in US.
even Alex Jones doesn't have the balls to say something like "garbage in garbage out, the public sucks, f*ck hope" in his analysis, although lately he is inching towards saying this.
i remember a few years ago AJ was like "we will defeat new world order" and now recently he actually said looking straight into the camera " they know you're stupid " meaning the new world order knows americans are stupid. i guess he has to push the envelope this way now because he has been doing his thing for years now and he has to keep shocking his audience, but either way i thought it was cool.
because after all is said and done we have nobody to blame but ourselves. not Bin Laden not Ahmadinejad not anybody in a turban or a clown suit could bring this country down - only we could do it.
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AJ knows jeebus is on our side.
We will not fail.
(http://www.stinque.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/normal_muscle_jesus.jpg)
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democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
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democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
That's what democracy is supposed to be.
What goes on in practice cannot even be put into words.
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Elections, an illusion to further deceive the masses to carry the belief that they are "free".
Alex Jones certainly knows what is going on in our world, but his credibility is questionable. He declared that he is a religious creationist, which was ridiculous given how much knowledge he has in fields such as the NWO. A large part of AJ's audience are religious, so he might be going into this direction for support of his viewers.
Another good speech by George Carlin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
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Alex Jones certainly knows what is going on in our world, but his credibility is questionable. He declared that he is a religious creationist, which was ridiculous given how much knowledge he has in fields such as the NWO. A large part of AJ's audience are religious, so he might be going into this direction for support of his viewers.
his audience are probably best described as "true conservatives" which does entail Christianity. i never heard him talk about Jesus or God or anything like that on the show however.
on the other hand he does often say that globalists think they are gods. he also speaks against eugenics but i don't think that is motivated by religion.
one beef with AJ is that he for the most part avoids the subject of Israel. even if he will mention in separate instances that a certain operation was run by an israeli or by Mossad he will never make a case against Israel or the Jewish lobby on the whole. that's ok though - at least he is not a propagandist for Israel like the mainstream media.
the other beef is that AJ always takes the worst case scenario, which may only have a low probability and describe it as if it is virtual certainty. sometimes he ends up being right ( like with Libya ) but other times not ( like with Iran ). so when people accuse him of being a sensationalist there is truth to that, but at least he doesn't lie - he does exaggerate risks though.
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Although his broadcasts can be somewhat biased for the reasons we mentioned, AJ can provide legit information, especially helpful to people who are not aware of reality.
The Anti-Terrorist's broadcasts are very truthful and often have significant proof to back them up (also takes humorous turns and analogies on videos which improves them). So that's quite a credible source. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAntiTerrorist
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Although his broadcasts can be somewhat biased for the reasons we mentioned, AJ can provide legit information, especially helpful to people who are not aware of reality.
The Anti-Terrorist's broadcasts are very truthful and often have significant proof to back them up (also takes humorous turns and analogies on videos which improves them). So that's quite a credible source. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAntiTerrorist
ok i subbed to anti-terrorist just in case. i can always unsubscribe later if he sucks.
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The antiterrorist has some great videos, but he talks a lot of UCC stuff which would probably have people laughing at me and/or hitting me with a baton. I recommend Marc Stevens http://www.youtube.com/user/MarcStevens3 (http://www.youtube.com/user/MarcStevens3) marcstevens.net (http://marcstevens.net) He hosts a radio show on LRN on saturdays. He also has a ton of great information that, if used correctly, are sure to expose the parasites.
Here's a taste of his youtube
Questioning IRS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxGwetvVkGE&feature=player_profilepage
Politicians pointing fingers at mexicans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrwXYhCU9pQ&feature=player_profilepage
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Larken Rose as well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZZMld_Q2p4&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngpsJKQR_ZE&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs&feature=player_detailpage
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People just aren't thinking, they are being programmed by TV
My grandmother thinks socialized medicine is teh best tang evar.
What they think is happening...
Group contribution for the greater good so little poor children can be healthy.
If you oppose OC that means you hate both children and black people.
Reality...
Stealing money from all living within a certain area to give to the group of doctors whom are failing epically, but of course they think doctors are doing a great job keeping them alive on pills since their 50s.
They just don't want to see a bill when they get a boo boo so they take the bill every week and hire mercenaries...
Obamacare= stealing money to pay for drugs on an enormous scale... Damn crackheads have taken over democrazy
but people like me with medical problems need to be able to see doctors to figure out what's wrong, because raw diet is not curing me. It's not enough on its own. People who have chronic/undiagnosed illness need to be seen by the best doctors/medical systems in the world. I hate drugs and how the majority of doctors seem to only treat symptoms with drugs, but it's the medical system that you should hate and try to change, you shouldn't hate the fact that they're trying to give access to healthcare for everyone. People can't be expected to blood test themselves and research things like natural remedies, hormone boosters etc., not to mention have to be able to afford them.
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I hate drugs and how the majority of doctors seem to only treat symptoms with drugs, but it's the medical system that you should hate and try to change, you shouldn't hate the fact that they're trying to give access to healthcare for everyone.
except that the only reason they want to give you access to it is so they can push more drugs on you.
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Max you might have a medical condition that you feel requires doctors to help,
but that does not justify stealing from others to pay for those services.
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Max has a point. A raw, palaeolithic diet cannot cure absolutely everything. We do have scientific data on how going raw/not eating cooked can improve many age-related conditions such as arthritis/alzheimer's etc. etc., but it would be interesting to find out what sort of conditions cannot be solved by diet - that way we don't give people false hope. I'm sure most genetic conditions cannot be cured, though some symptoms thereof might possibly be reduced, who knows?
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This reminds me... some of the ideas in this topic have been raised here as well: http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/hot-topics/what%27s-your-idea-of-a-perfect-society/
@ Tyler: The sort of conditions that cannot be solved by diet are the bad mental programs that people accept into their heads and act upon. I have a feeling this could be more damaging to health than food or at least just as damaging.
Keep happy thoughts ;)
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Max you might have a medical condition that you feel requires doctors to help,
but that does not justify stealing from others to pay for those services.
so it's not ok to "steal" money to try and prevent/stop me from having my life waste away in extreme agony and hell, but it's ok to "steal" money in order to prevent someone's non-living structure from burning down.
OK MAN.
and majormark I think you're wrong
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....but it's ok to "steal" money in order to prevent someone's non-living structure from burning down.
No, I did not condone this either. That was a terrible attempt to straw man attack me.
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I don't know what straw man attack is but it was a general comment towards 99% of the people who are against healthcare for everyone, saying the government is stealing our money in order to pay for other people's shit, yet at the same time they don't say anything about how the fire department, etc. are doing the same thing.
It sucks that so many people are raised to not give a shit about anyone else but themselves. Make more money, buy more things.
BTW, you don't condone the fire department?? why the hell not...
sure if everyone was living tribe-like lives with no modern cities or technology that would be fine to say something like that, but different circumstances require different things... in our current city/tech/social structure it would be pretty fucking retarded to not have things like the fire department paid for through taxes... same with healthcare.
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Well, if I had my way, everyone would be forced to pay a low flat rate of tax and would be allowed to allocate their tax however they chose. If they refused to allocate a relevant percentage to the police, the police would not be expected to come to the aid of that particular person if his house was burgled etc. If they didn't allocate a certain percentage towards council-rubbish-collection or the local fire-department, they would lose those 2 services, and so on. If they paid twice the expected percentage to the police, they would get twice as much police-protection as those who paid just the standard percentage etc.
I believe something like this was tried in a study in the US, and most people allocated their fictional tax-dollars to social services etc., with virtually no money going to support the military, for example. Given that the US military is way over-bloated, that might actually be a good thing.
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That's actually an interesting idea Tyler. One of the very few I've seen.
Most other comments/videos about being anti-tax are plain stupid, naive, selfish, etc. because they don't suggest any other type of societal change(like zeitgeist/venus project does). And to eliminate taxes alone without MAJOR societal change would be moronic and chaotic, and the cause of much human suffering.
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Most other comments/videos about being anti-tax are plain stupid, naive, selfish, etc. because they don't suggest any other type of societal change(like zeitgeist/venus project does). And to eliminate taxes alone without MAJOR societal change would be moronic and chaotic, and the cause of much human suffering.
yeah whatever, did you read my article ?
http://www.diy-av.net/?p=36
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I don't support any agencies claim that they are right to or obligated to initiate violence to pay for their services.
The idea of small government is a pipe dream, once they have that power they only grow.
Most of us work to obtain money honestly, there is no reason these humans should not.
... naive, selfish....
so it's not ok to "steal" money to try and prevent/stop me from having my life waste away in extreme agony and hell...
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I don't support any agencies claim that they are right to or obligated to initiate violence to pay for their services.
The idea of small government is a pipe dream, once they have that power they only grow.
Most of us work to obtain money honestly, there is no reason these humans should not.
violence is not the issue. i debunk that aspect of Stefan Molyneux's philosophy here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUMm0OeQiC0
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Fetus... IMO, The problem is not violence itself, the problem is that this group of people are glorified, by indirect victims, of the violence they initiate and even get the victims to pay for it themselves. It is like one big S&M club.
Max... I am not trying to give the message that I only care about myself in some darwinian way, or that your life is any less valuable than mine. To put it in better terms, I do not trust the industry whom will receive the money to be sincere or effective. No, I do not have the answer to your problem, but that does not give anyone the justification to redistribute my money to an industry that has abused me.
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the problem is that this group of people are glorified, by indirect victims, of the violence they initiate
that's the circle of life to you. parents abuse their kids to get their love. women f*ck with their boyfriends' heads to get their attention. governments put you in prison to get your respect.
you only need ask why a person is born ? a person is born because somebody needs a slave ( usually that somebody is the parents plus the government ). if a slave isn't needed in a civilized society a condom or abortion is used. one day this natural born slave discovers that he doesn't have many freedoms despite being told that he is free and is surprised to learn that :)
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Having kids for slaves? It would appear that most people have kids because sex is a fun past time and rubbers suck.
I want kids because that is the best way to change the world, by literally creating strong people.
There is also the aspect of continuing your lineage because people typically don't live forever. ;D
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sex is a fun past time and rubbers suck.
what a load of crap. there is abortion for this.
I want kids because
i'm sure your kids care a lot which whim of your immature self is responsible for their life of slavery.
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Fetus... What do you propose? Stop having kids to end slavery?
Go ahead, take that route. It might be for the better.
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Fetus... What do you propose?
i propose you take responsibility for your actions. if you have kids you are more or less responsible for all the crap that's going to happen to them with the exception of minor things like car accidents or failed tests for which they will be responsible themselves.
but the fact that they will be forced to pay taxes will be YOUR responsibility.
so when your kids spit in your face you get on your knees and beg their forgiveness.
realize the relationship between Citizen and State parallels almost 100% that of Child and Parent.