Paleo Diet: Raw Paleo Diet and Lifestyle Forum
Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Health => Topic started by: Charlie4444 on April 25, 2012, 06:04:02 am
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While staying mostly raw paleo, anybody incorporate burritos, pizza, beer, etc. and it turn out to be a better diet?
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These things are always a great idea till you're finished eating them Then the heartache of.... upset stomach sets in. Doesn't stop me from trying them occasionally though : )
It does relieve the boredom.
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burrito, pizza, beer... maybe there are better sad food examples?
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I suppose it depends to some degree on how bad it was with SAD, as this varies with each person at different stages of life. The foods you mentioned - burritos, pizza, beer - NEVER! My rule is wheat: never! dairy: never! Other processed foods are okay once in a blue moon, but I always feel achy in the joints afterwards. I started out with raw paleo on the verge of being a wheelchair-bound invalid, so a little reminder is all I need to get back on track.
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burrito, pizza, beer... maybe there are better sad food examples?
Yeah, you left out burgers and Coke! LOL
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I've actually been eating a combination of SAD, like the worst version of SAD foods there are with raw paleo.
I'm doing OK. I plan to eventually fully SCD/Raw Paleo it, which I tried before but got horrible withdrawal. So this time I'm slowly working into it.
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I'm going to answer my own question since people so far have failed. I will eat SAD sporadically and each time results in runny nose, bloated stomach, and often delayed depression. However, I think I do get some extra source of fuel to run off of, and when I do eat it, I devour it like it's something my bodies been craving for a while.
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out of SAD food I eat pizza once in a blue moon. i also eat butter-fried potatoes regularly and sometimes other cooked home foods. i stay away from the sweets. i do not notice any negative side effects. i think potatoes help me with weight gain. i'd like to gain 10 more pounds or more.
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I plan to eventually fully SCD/Raw Paleo it, which I tried before but got horrible withdrawal. So this time I'm slowly working into it.
Fats and minerals are the way to control cravings.
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out of SAD food I eat pizza once in a blue moon. i also eat butter-fried potatoes regularly and sometimes other cooked home foods. i stay away from the sweets. i do not notice any negative side effects. i think potatoes help me with weight gain. i'd like to gain 10 more pounds or more.
Interesting, I actually experience the same thing. Thanks
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This is a bit ridiculous, but when I feel I haven't been doing what I should have been doing, I sometimes deliberately eat cooked foods so that I get a hangover-like effect the next day and feel awful. Sort of a punishment to get me back on the right track.
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I'm going to answer my own question since people so far have failed. I will eat SAD sporadically and each time results in runny nose, bloated stomach, and often delayed depression. However, I think I do get some extra source of fuel to run off of, and when I do eat it, I devour it like it's something my bodies been craving for a while.
its just the adjustment phase.
your need to cheat reminiscing sad gets less and less as time goes by.
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Potatoes (Some how I sleep better if I eat some potatoes every few days) and salty popcorn, once a month or so I eat really disgusting sad food because I feld like it (afterwords I'm sick but och I'm human :-) ).
I try mostly to stick with (raw) paleo foods, no wheats, no pufa's
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maybe its the salt you are missing?
and not enough carbs?
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I still miss chocolate and I eat an 8-ounce bag of chocolate once a few weeks. What nutrients am I missing?
Otherwise I have no problems just eating raw healthy foods.
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I still miss chocolate and I eat an 8-ounce bag of chocolate once a few weeks. What nutrients am I missing?
Maybe not any specific nutrients, per se, but the effect that chocolate has on the brain? I can't recall which feel good chemical it mimics and am feeling too lazy to Google it at the moment, but there's something in the brain chemistry chocolate mimics that gives you elevated feelings of happiness and well being.
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I used to go out of my way to eat a chocolate bar every 2 weeks. This was before my raw paleo days.
When I did a vco detox to address my jock itch, the chocolate craving also went away.
Seems my candida was craving chocolates.
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I noticed this with certain nutrients. Things like iodine, and other nutrients are added in fortified cereals, milks, table salt, etc. I always found i craved things like french fries/burgers back in the day. I think it was the iodine. Now i take kelp capsules for that. Make sure your eating enough magnesium, iodine, etc. I was also low on magnesium.
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Lynnzard, Here is one article that addresses the chemicals in chocolate:
http://www.allchocolate.com/health/basics/brain.aspx (http://www.allchocolate.com/health/basics/brain.aspx)
I doubt the good feelings are what I am after though. I am generally a happy person. I miss chocolate often, not while I am in a bad mood.
Joe, are you saying chocolate contains much magnesium and iodine?
GS, what is vco detox?
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VCO detox protocol - gets rid of candida by being on a 100% fat diet.
http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols-and-treatments/stomach-healing-intestinal-cleansing-yeast-elimination/virgin-coconut-oil-detox/ (http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols-and-treatments/stomach-healing-intestinal-cleansing-yeast-elimination/virgin-coconut-oil-detox/)
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VCO detox protocol - gets rid of candida by being on a 100% fat diet.
http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols-and-treatments/stomach-healing-intestinal-cleansing-yeast-elimination/virgin-coconut-oil-detox/ (http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols-and-treatments/stomach-healing-intestinal-cleansing-yeast-elimination/virgin-coconut-oil-detox/)
Not a tasty menu...I would rather do absolute fast...But the promised results of VOC detox are so good...
Questions:
(1) Can the 10-12 tablespoons of VCO be mixed with a little low-carb vegetables (such as Romaine lettuce, cauliflower, broccoli)?
(2) What is the rock salt for?
(3) What is the lemon juice for?
(4) Can I do an absolute fast (no water, no food) for 3 days instead? Will a 3-day absolute fast starve fungi / yeast / candida? (I did 3 & 1/2 days of absolute fast a couple of months ago, so I know I am able to do it without much difficulty.)
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We are off topic.
No vegetables, that will feed the candida.
Rock salt will help kill the candida and give you minerals.
Lemon juice will help kill the candida and give you minerals.
Hard fast for 3 days does not have the candida killing action of VCO + salt + lemon.
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Thank you, GS. One more question: Can the VCO be replaced by raw coconut butter (Artisana brand)?
2 tablespoons of coconut butter contains 18g fat, 2g protein, 5g dietary fiber, and 1.9g sugar.
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Thank you, GS. One more question: Can the VCO be replaced by raw coconut butter (Artisana brand)?
2 tablespoons of coconut butter contains 18g fat, 2g protein, 5g dietary fiber, and 1.9g sugar.
No it cannot.
The VCO detox principle is 100% you consume is anti-candida, anti-yeast. You feed the human with fat and minerals. And at the same time starve the candida and the yeast. That itty bitty protein and carb will spoil the entire principle.
The vco detox is drastic. But if you are not allergic to vco it can do wonders in a very very short amount of time. Cured of candida in days instead of months.
Be aware that sometimes candida is useful as Aajonus says. So use your judgement.
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This is OT. But is it possible that the white stuff in the stools a lot of people experience when first starting Raw Paleo is candida?
I know when I first started raw paleo my tongue got really white, my stools started getting white stuff. Then later my tongue cleared up and so did my stools.
No it cannot.
The VCO detox principle is 100% you consume is anti-candida, anti-yeast. You feed the human with fat and minerals. And at the same time starve the candida and the yeast. That itty bitty protein and carb will spoil the entire principle.
The vco detox is drastic. But if you are not allergic to vco it can do wonders in a very very short amount of time. Cured of candida in days instead of months.
Be aware that sometimes candida is useful as Aajonus says. So use your judgement.
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guys come on how did this end up with vco detox.. it was a pretty interesting thread otherwise :)
I eat rice btw, it's a pretty good source of carbs and it's beneficial for me.
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aLptHW4k4y, many many threads in this RP forum ended up off topic. Please browse the forum and you will find that I am speaking the truth. I think that is a beauty of this forum: People feel free to discuss anything related to health which they find interesting, as long as the conversation is carried in a civil and respectful manner.
GS, thank you for the VCO detox information. I will keep the information in mind.
On the other hand, I am not sure my chocolate addiction means I have fungi / yeast / candida. I have been doing low carb for a couple of months. I seldom eat high-carb foods and I do not crave them.
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well, yeah, and it was chocolate (100%, if that makes it any better). my problem was that food would go right through me. apparently chocolate has a constipating effect, so eating a small amount after my meat meal was so very helpful in the beginning. i started getting headaches, which i never get, so that's when i stopped. by then i was good without it.
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I still miss chocolate and I eat an 8-ounce bag of chocolate once a few weeks. What nutrients am I missing?
Otherwise I have no problems just eating raw healthy foods.
Chocolate affects the hormones and is useful for women in particular at certain times of their cycle. Suggestion - use raw cacao and cacao butter instead.
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Suggestion - use raw cacao and cacao butter instead.
I will try that. Thanks.
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Joy - only raw cacao and butter I've been able to find is from Essential Living Foods. Easiest and fastest way to get a yummy chocolate hit is to take medjool dates, pour some cacao powder on them and mash them with a fork. Sometimes you will need a tiny bit of water to make it a good consistency.
Many women say that after they find the ideal diet for themselves and therefore have their hormones more balanced generally -- their monthly cravings for chocolate go away - - but until then the humble cacao been can be a real good helper.
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Thank you for the information, Dorothy. Last year I purchased some refrigerated raw cacao pieces from Natural Grocers. I will check to see if NG still carries it as it is near to my home. If not, I will check out Essential Living Foods. Central Market used to carry whole raw cacao but it has been discontinued.
I never thought I might "need" chocolate physically. I thought I just got addicted to the delicious taste of chocolate. Now let's see if raw cacao may fix me
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Thank you for the information, Dorothy. Last year I purchased some refrigerated raw cacao pieces from Natural Grocers. I will check to see if NG still carries it as it is near to my home. If not, I will check out Essential Living Foods. Central Market used to carry whole raw cacao but it has been discontinued.
I never thought I might "need" chocolate physically. I thought I just got addicted to the delicious taste of chocolate. Now let's see if raw cacao may fix me
FYI - 99.9% of raw cacaos are not actually raw. The pieces have a little better chance of actually being raw than the powders and cacao butter a much better chance.
As for "fixing" - the best cacao is going to be is a short-term supplement to help you until your hormone system gets healed up from eating the right raw diet for you. Cacao should be used like a lot of other herbs - not depended upon but used in the process of long term healing or in crises when the body suddenly goes out of balance and needs help getting back and then stabilized with more general staple food choices. Eventually if your diet is balanced and correct for you and your hormonal system gets more vigorous, constant and balanced you likely will stop craving the chocolate - as long as you don't use milk or non-raw sweeteners in it that can cause cravings as well. Most herbs including cacao can be thought of like health-care professionals - you need them when things are out of balance - but you try your best to keep yourself healthy enough with food and lifestyle not to have to use them that much.
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Good advice, Dorothy. Thank you.