Paleo Diet: Raw Paleo Diet and Lifestyle Forum
Raw Paleo Diet Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Fermenter Zym on May 07, 2012, 02:37:29 am
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If forever reason (emergency / financial problems / zombie apocalypse) and you only had access to grain-fed supermarket meats would you cook them or eat them raw?
I'm not planning on this, but just curious if people here think the risks of cooking outweigh the risks of bacterial infection.
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I'd eat them raw, not logical to eat them cooked as that is twice as bad. But I would actually find it easy to get hold of raw, wildcaught seafood instead so would rather have that, instead.When I could find no decent source of high-quality raw animal foods, I would just stick to eating raw plant foods all the time until I could find a decent RAF source.
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I'd eat them raw, not logical to eat them cooked as that is twice as bad. But I would actually find it easy to get hold of raw, wildcaught seafood instead so would rather have that, instead.When I could find no decent source of high-quality raw animal foods, I would just stick to eating raw plant foods all the time until I could find a decent RAF source.
I think he asks because he's assuming eating raw grain-fed meat would expose one to "harmful" bacteria such as salmonella and e-coli.
Do you know if it would? I would like to know.
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Not my experience. I tried raw, grainfed meats for some months(the worst kind of all), due to some wrong, decidely dumb ideas about RVAF diets during my very early "Instincto" phase, and I had no issues with bacteria etc. What I did find was that unlike raw, grassfed or raw wild game meats, I often felt like vomiting soon after eating raw, grainfed meats as they tasted so foul.
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I've had publix beef raw on multiple occaisions. I didn't have any tastte problems.
It didn't give me the same awesome feeling pastured beef gives me though.
I think there's several reasons for this.
1) Microbes influence everything, they say the brain and colon have a bacterial connection. So eating pastured beef, which has healthier microbes, makes me feel better.
2) Omega imbalance
3) No antibiotics, hhormones, etc.
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I'm not planning on this, but just curious if people here think the risks of cooking outweigh the risks of bacterial infection.
Measurements have always shown similar (and usually more) bacteria in organic grass-fed meat..
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So grain-fed meat are not as bad as they're made out to be? Of course, they should not be chosen over meat coming from animals fed on their natural diet.
The worry I have with grain-fed meats is what we're usually told, that they can cause deadly sicknesses. Then I read somewhere that e-coli exists in grain-fed meats and not grassfed. I think Lex said that. But then I read AV saying that e-coli is not even bad, that it's good?
It's confusing.
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I've never had problems with grainfed meat, as far as getting sick. Generally the meat-handling practices in the US are pretty well-regulated.
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RVAFers have plenty of other, decent bacteria in their bodies already which makes bacterial infection much less likely. Besides, AV is right, we are in contact with e coli bacteria all the time, yet are not constantly ill. The problem is that people on SAD diets have poorly primed immune-systems which react wrongly to certain bacteria
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In addition, there is concern about antibiotic-resistant strains of e. coli. These are said to exist in grain-fed beef.
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In addition, there is concern about antibiotic-resistant strains of e. coli. These are said to exist in grain-fed beef.
That was my concern. There seems to be some nasty stuff in grainfed.