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Title: No Water
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 04, 2012, 02:12:56 am
Does anybody here go by VonderPlanetz idea of not drinking any water?

"Water is dangerous!" - VonderPlannerz in CancerCure Society interview


I can't picture myself dropping water from my regimen. It's MotherEarth's BloodMana.

How bout you guys/girls?

Title: Re: No Water
Post by: raw-al on July 04, 2012, 02:19:51 am
If memory serves he indicates that you should not cut it out completely.

Not everything AV says is intelligent. He says some kookie things like everyone should drink plenty of milk.

Having said that I think that what says about it making you feel cold has some truth to it.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 04, 2012, 02:46:12 am
Definitely... also what he says about the more you drink, the thirstier you get, I witness that sometimes too. Then again, I drink mostly distilled water. I feel that some Spring Water harvested from a natural, clean spring would be a lot more balanced and my body would love it.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: raw-al on July 04, 2012, 03:16:01 am
Water is one of those huge topics.

I used to prefer natural spring water that I had access to, Then I tried filtereed tap water, now I have water filtered through a Santevia filter and I could not say if it is good bad or indifferent.

We did the distilled water for awhile but who knows.

I don't drink a lot but I think it is wise to at least drink some. However hunose?
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Ferocious on July 04, 2012, 03:40:00 am
You should be getting plenty of water from your foods. You should not really need it unless you're losing a lot via sweating. But of course, if you're thirsty, drink....Who cares if someone says you shouldn't. Personally, I don't find water satisfying. It doesn't feel worth drinking because I just want to drink more and more. I rather just get my liquid from fruits or something else. But if I'm very thirsty from being outside in the heat, water seems to work faster and better.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: gc on July 04, 2012, 03:58:58 am
I never could drink distilled water. It's always too flat.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: TylerDurden on July 04, 2012, 04:38:30 am
Distilled water is dangerous as it leaches minerals away from the body. I at first thought it was more hydrating until I realised that I was drinking far more distilled water per day than was natural and that I never felt I'd had enough, unlike with  my usual alkaline mineral waters.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: jessica on July 04, 2012, 06:53:45 am
i agree on the distilled water, reverse osmosis is almost as bad, same with ionized, but you can alway add some seaweeds and some clays to your water to make it more alive.  a few days ago i had some fresh mountain water and i have to say it was so extremely refreshing, i am going to have to hike up and start collecting it again.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 04, 2012, 07:05:36 am
I do add SeaSalt to my water... and I charge it with gemstones. I do wonder what would be a better alternative though... I would have to move to a different location to have SpringWater access... like that'll ever happen. I can get ozonated Spring Water, its pretty expensive and its a hassle to get home. Err... why is it so damn hard to get Water nowadays?
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: jessica on July 04, 2012, 08:05:34 am
adora has talked about how she makes her water with clay....adding the clay, stirring it around and then letting it set in the water for a few days before drinking it...you can search and find a post about it if you wish.  we live in a polluted world :( and our best attempts at making things habitable dont really address that issue:((((
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 04, 2012, 11:12:36 am
ClayWater sounds nice... I like the SeaWeed idea too!

So yeah I been drinking a shit ton of water today. It's so hot and humid and I feel like total shit. Not to mention, it's a full moon. For some reason, me and my brother are very sensitive to a full moon. Earlier I was so frustrated and angry and hateful towards everything and myself that I shattered a plate against the wall... this is before I found out that it was a full moon night. It was like Go Figure, plates always get broken on full moons. It makes me feel terrible, alone in the universe, abandonded by divinity... I've been an ass to my brother and my mom all day. Even the kitties got some shit from me. Yeah so uhh.... time for another glass of IceCold water!
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: raw-al on July 04, 2012, 07:03:19 pm
I do add SeaSalt to my water... and I charge it with gemstones. I do wonder what would be a better alternative though... I would have to move to a different location to have SpringWater access... like that'll ever happen. I can get ozonated Spring Water, its pretty expensive and its a hassle to get home. Err... why is it so damn hard to get Water nowadays?
If you use gemstones make sure they are apropos to your body type so they don't aggravate you. They can act like food in the sense that they can be a benefit otr a problem.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Dorothy on July 05, 2012, 03:09:50 am
I LOVE water. Telling me not to drink water would be like telling me not to eat. No one is going to be convincing me of either. It also doesn't make me more thirsty at all - it's usually extremely satisfying. I guess it's an individual thing? Or maybe it depends on how much fat is eaten?

I'm going to be trying Adora's bentonite in water here Jessica to see how I feel - but if it ruins the taste of my beloved water I'll just take the bentonite separately. That's what my husband does - just swallows some bentonite between meals. The idea of taking in a little bit of clay each time I drink water makes logical sense. I'll see how my body likes it. You are so right about living in a polluted world and not addressing the issue. I've been thinking about the chemtrails for instance. I'm hoping that the bentonite will handle those issues.

DD - your gemstone idea sounds lovely - but the same thing Al said went through my mind - depends on the gemstones!

 
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: jessica on July 05, 2012, 07:42:14 am
ClayWater sounds nice... I like the SeaWeed idea too!

So yeah I been drinking a shit ton of water today. It's so hot and humid and I feel like total shit.

i used to be super thristy and drink 2 gallons of water + a day until i started getting enough minerals.  its a double edge sword when you are drinking distilled water because your body is asking to be replenished with minerals but you are drinking water that further dilutes you.   this can cause bloating or excessive sweating ive noticed, usually depends on the weather.  humidity sucks and i would not know what the F to do in hot humid weather, but i suspect keeping your electrolytes in balance will help.

i would suggest roasted dandelion tea instead of coffee if you drink it, and making light herbal teas during the super hot times of the year to drink along with water.   add kelp granules to everything, it should help and they are pretty low in sodium so you will be attaining the proper amounts of other minerals without blowing up on sodium. eating celery, cucumbers and juising zucchinis helps to get your electrolytes back in balance.

 also note that sometimes when you are suffering from sensitivity to sugary foods and the ups and downs of blood sugar there can be excessive thirst until these swings are moderated
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: jessica on July 05, 2012, 07:44:21 am
ps no tantrums! do jumping jacks instead or sprint down the street until you are tired and then lay down, breathe deeply and rest cause your soul needs you
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 05, 2012, 07:50:46 am
I'm thinking about this clay thing... how does this look?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Lbs-edible-Calcium-Bentonite-Montmorillonite-Clay-/190439744044 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Lbs-edible-Calcium-Bentonite-Montmorillonite-Clay-/190439744044)

Maybe in the meantime, until I can afford that, I can go outside, take a TBSP of dirt, and put it in a gallon of water?

As for the gemstone thing... I may consider that. I just put random stones in the water without worrying about what does what, its gotta be better than no stones, right? And if I grow boobies or something from using the wrong stones, I've certainly endured worse in my life.

@ jessica: I just got celery today and I'm going to get some cucumbers and zucchini on Saturday! I would've got some Kelp today but the HFS is closed. I will definitely start Kelping my water

@ jessica pt 2 PS edition: Thanks... perhaps I can burst on the trampoline whenever I'm pissed. I'm actually feeling pretty balanced today... I just had some Salmon'n'Salad served up with some Pineapple, I really feel like the enzymatic action of the Pineapple is helping with digestion, plus its muey hydrating. Yum I'm bout to eat another spear
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: raw-al on July 05, 2012, 07:51:45 am
Water seems to have a particular attraction for the fairer sex. It's normal to see women toting all manner of containers of the stuff, which of course leads to the inevitable lineup at the tree as it were.....

This was originally entitled "Proof that too many trees have been cut", but I think it should be "The lineup to the women's tree"
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Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Dorothy on July 05, 2012, 07:52:55 am
i used to be super thristy and drink 2 gallons of water + a day until i started getting enough minerals.  its a double edge sword when you are drinking distilled water because your body is asking to be replenished with minerals but you are drinking water that further dilutes you.   this can cause bloating or excessive sweating ive noticed, usually depends on the weather.  humidity sucks and i would not know what the F to do in hot humid weather, but i suspect keeping your electrolytes in balance will help.

i would suggest roasted dandelion tea instead of coffee if you drink it, and making light herbal teas during the super hot times of the year to drink along with water.   add kelp granules to everything, it should help and they are pretty low in sodium so you will be attaining the proper amounts of other minerals without blowing up on sodium. eating celery, cucumbers and juising zucchinis helps to get your electrolytes back in balance.

 also note that sometimes when you are suffering from sensitivity to sugary foods and the ups and downs of blood sugar there can be excessive thirst until these swings are moderated

Those are great thoughts that I should keep in mind Jessica. I've had to learn how to keep cool here - the only place hotter is the desert and today I was thinking of these things a great deal. Hibiscus and peppermint teas are both extremely cooling. Thanks for reminding me because on days like today I would usually make iced hibiscus tea to stay cool and hydrated. I love humidity - but it sometimes makes me not realize how thirsty I am and I can wait too long to drink. I had watermelon today when I don't usually like or want it. Nothing is as cooling as watermelon I think. It can bring down a high fever faster than anything. When I drink water and I'm outside in the heat I crave salt and seaweed. I've never tried having clay instead. For my main meal tonight I wanted scallops - so yeah - minerals and the heat are so very important - but I also wanted salt on them. According to watercure.com (the doctor's name is too had to remember and spell) you need salt to take the water into the cells, so drinking lots of water without enough minerals/electrolytes can be dangerous for the kidneys and just makes you bloated because the water isn't going into the cells. He says that all bloating and edema is caused really by dehydration. I bet you're totally right about the blood sugars though. I also get insanely thirsty when I eat something that is bad for me. It's like my body is begging for water to wash it out. Along time ago I used to get really thirsty during detoxes too.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Dorothy on July 05, 2012, 07:57:43 am
LMAO Al. But notice the doggie at the tree is definitely of the masculine sex - leg up? So I think that tree is more of a urinal. ;)

DD - do you know how to muscle test? That's how I would decide what minerals to put in the water - if any - because they most definitely could do you more harm than good if they are not the right ones for you.

I wouldn't do the dirt.  :o  Seaweed, Redmonds salt or bentonite from the health food store (do you have one near you) I think would be much superior and less scary. I'd also try scallops. They are expensive but just one or two of them really feel like enough for me. Can you get scallops?
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: jessica on July 05, 2012, 08:46:05 am
hah yeah, try and get REAL MAD on the trampoline next time.   youll probably just end up feeling silly for whatever the reason.  i sometimes just get mentally/emotionally/physically confused and have noticed that its more of just a habit for my being to go down the pathway towards destructive anxiety/panic attack type things...so maybe if you get to the point you can feel that sensation coming on, just start doing whatever else you can to release that energy

heres what adora does re: adding clay to distilled water
"Liquid clay is just clay mixed with water. I don't like dry clay, it dehydrates me even in small amounts. I soak all clay in water for at least 3 days before using. I only use a drop in a half gallon mason jar to give the molecules the taste of earth. Then I add what more I want to my cup."
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: DopeDivinity on July 05, 2012, 09:45:03 am
 I haven't tried muscle testing, I have this little fear of doing it wrong... perhaps I can give it a shot... it could be useful... I just read it can be used to determine food allergies, lord knows I could use that... why the hell is my head flaring up again?

I will take your recommendation on the scallop thing... of course, I usually skip over it in favor of more economical seafood.   8) Ya know... last time I tried scallops, I threw up because my dad was forcing me to eat them. That was a long time ago though... before I could even eat vegetables... I was on the HotPocket TacoBell diet.

I'm definitely looking to try multiple things here... here is another one to add to the idea pooL:

I just started saving my eggshells after reading that they can be dried, powdered, and used as a mineral supplement.

"Eggshells are mostly composed of calcium, but they also contain at least 27 trace micro-elements. According to Mikhail Tombak PhD, the calcium contained in eggshells is up to 90% absorbable by our bodies. This leads us to believe that it is a much better, not to mention more natural source of calcium for our bodies than limestone or coral sources. Besides, how often do you see animals eating rocks in the wild? Now, how often will a wolf or other animal steal eggs from a nest and eat the shell along with the yolk? "

"One medium eggshell should contain about 1 teaspoon of powder, and about 750mg to 800mg of elemental calcium."

I also remember reading that eggshells have a very similar mineral profile to our bones...

ANYWAY, wouldn't that be a great way to mineralize water? Maybe like  1 TBSP powdered eggshell? I'm going to try it
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Dorothy on July 05, 2012, 09:58:48 am
There was a thread here on the subject of eggshells. Do you raise your own chickens? If not then you have to make sure that where you get them from doesn't spray anything onto the shells to replace the natural bloom for shipping and storage.

Holistic physicians have told me that repeatedly that most diets are rich in calcium - it is the other minerals and vitamins that allow for proper calcium absorption that are missing usually.

You really should try to find that thread because someone that was really into eggshells had a bad effect and learned more that made him do a 180 in regard to eggshells.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: svrn on November 09, 2012, 12:10:09 am
i go for long periods of time without drinking water. usually i drink milk and when thats not available i buy coconuts and drink their water. I need to much milk or coconut water to stay hydrated compared to normal water either way. when I do get water its from a spring and I collected it myself. for free.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Wolf on November 09, 2012, 07:55:03 am
I haven't been drinking as much water as usual lately.  I only drink bottled water, Fiji brand.. I like the description on the bottle that the water is pumped from the aquifer straight into the bottle and so untouched by man until you open the bottle and drink it.. even if it is untrue, it is still the best tasting water to me.  I don't trust tap water at all, even if it is filtered.  I don't trust most bottled waters either, after hearing most are just tap water anyways.  But I tend to get headaches if I don't drink enough water.  I usually try to drink water first thing when I wake up, to hydrate myself before eating anything, and that's usually enough to prevent me from getting headaches.  I want to buy water in glass bottles though, but it's so expensive..

As for eggshells.. I did keep the eggshells from the eggs my aunt and uncle have given me from their home raised chickens, and crushed them up.  I don't trust any store bought egg shells, even organic or free range.. I think there was only one brand I ever bought that the eggs were still dirty, with clumps of dirt or poop still stuck to the eggs, but I think those chickens were fed a vegetarian diet which may or may not have included soy and certainly didn't have a high amount of bugs in the diet, so I figure they're probably nutritionally poor. 

I probably won't eat the eggshells myself though, since I drink large quantities of raw milk and consume a lot of raw dairy so I'm sure I'm already overdosing on calcium without consuming enough magnesium.  I mostly kept them because I was wanting to get my own chickens and I heard they need high amounts of calcium so I thought I might feed it to them.. but my dad won't let me get chickens.  I might feed it to my cat instead, since she doesn't get much bones to eat.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: primalgirl on January 08, 2013, 05:21:34 am
re; AV about water...I find that if I eliminate all salt from my raw paleo/primal diet, that I just don't need, crave or want water all that much...when I deviate into cooked food and salt then WOW! my water craving goes sky high and I can feel how hard it is to digest the food and can see why they push water...your body needs it to handle the digesting of all that salty dense water-less food. SALT FREE RAW PRIMAL RULES! (AV says that one grain of sea salt kills 50,000 red blood cells) Also I cannot believe how much I've gotten used to no salt, I sometimes use raw honey for flavoring, but if the meat tastes good then I just slice and eat.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: dogman333 on February 26, 2013, 08:27:59 am
I think this information from Dr. Thomas Cowan gives a little insight into AV's recommendation to limit water --- because if you eat right, you may not really need very much water. It seems our ancestors never walked around with a  water bottle all day. Apparently, the body makes water, and in that way pushes the blood through the body. It's water pressure, not the heart pumping.

The below is from "The Heart is Not A Pump. It Listens."

How to get that push? Some might say drink more water. But ingested water doesn’t reach capillaries, at least not very effectively. What does cause efficient water production at the capillary level? Metabolism, and according to biochemistry texts:

* consumption of 10 grams of protein releases 4 grams of water
* consumption of 10 grams of carbohydrates releases 6 grams of water
* consumption of 10 grams of fat releases 10 grams of water.

This release of water comes only when sufficient oxygen is present in the blood., and moderate, regular exercise is the most effective way to release more oxygen into the blood.

Sufficient oxygen plus a metabolism in which cells live predominately on fats results in the most efficient pump, the healthiest circulation, and a healthier heart. Thus the strategy with any “dis-ease” of the heart is to slowly increase the percentage of healthy fats in your diet while at the same time increasing the amount of moderate exercise you do.

Here's the link:    http://fourfoldhealing.com/2005/02/01/the-heart-does-not-pump/ (http://fourfoldhealing.com/2005/02/01/the-heart-does-not-pump/)

And don't forget to get grounded:    http://youtu.be/1qSAZXjOo9g (http://youtu.be/1qSAZXjOo9g)
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: van on February 27, 2013, 01:54:39 am
I've been using an inland sea mineral liquid, low sodium, high in mg. to my water for years.  I love the taste.  Even though I have an exceptional well.   I'm planning on buying a distiller, remove all minerals and start fresh with a balanced source.  Most waters are mostly ca. and low in mg., and of course low in most trace mins, to say the least about having any natural balance to them.  When I say natural, I mean that it would come close to resembling the mins in the ocean.  I've recently found Blue Ocean Minerals, which like the aforementioned product, somehow includes ca.  Usually when they precipitate out sodium, Ca. also drops out.  But Blue Ocean has a different process where the ratio of mg. to ca. is 3/1.  I'll let you know how this works.     To test the idea I bought one of those  pour through water filters that removes everything, and then added the sea mins to that.  I loved that taste, far better than adding them to my well water.  But,  when I went to change the filter and open the old one up, and looked at all the man made little plastic looking beads that collected the impurities and mins from the water, I thought there's no way I'm going to trust that that is not going to leach into my water.  The method of testing the water I believe is from a conductivity test,,,  plastic I don't think will show up on the test meter. 
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: LePatron7 on February 27, 2013, 01:59:27 am
I'm planning on buying a distiller, remove all minerals and start fresh with a balanced source.

I was using a distiller for over a year. I never added anything to it though. I use one from waterwise.

http://www.waterwise.com/productcart/pc/4000.asp (http://www.waterwise.com/productcart/pc/4000.asp)

People have told me distilled water leeches minerals. But I've read thoroughly on it and it's been debunked.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: TylerDurden on February 27, 2013, 07:03:10 am
It's true that distilled water leaches minerals. I had a  very frightening experience during my distilled-water experiments. I would drink gallons of the stuff and still feel the need to drink much more as I never ever felt sated. I've since been told that the best way to absorb water is to put a little something in it like salt or lemon etc.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: LePatron7 on February 27, 2013, 07:12:51 am
I definitely drank a lot of distilled water when I was drinking it. But I never had any problems.

I even had certain minerals tested (calcium, magnesium) and the only thing low was calcium. And the reason it was low is because I was eating a dairy free, very low calcium SCD diet. I added a SCD legal calcium supplement and my levels returned to normal.

So I disagree with the notion that it leeches minerals from the body.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Alive on February 28, 2013, 11:40:51 am
I recently read a science report that marathon winners drank the least water, and that our metabolic water byproduct is enough (can't find the link).

At the moment I am drinking salty water hoping it will help with detox.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: dogman333 on March 01, 2013, 11:31:32 pm
Alive, I believe you're referring to the work of Timothy Noakes, especially his book "Waterlogged."

He noticed along time ago that the athletes who drank the least water were the best performers --- sounds like Aajonus again! See my post above about the metabolic sources of water from our foods.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: William on March 02, 2013, 09:24:23 am
I recently read a science report that marathon winners drank the least water, and that our metabolic water byproduct is enough (can't find the link).

At the moment I am drinking salty water hoping it will help with detox.

It was drinking water that killed a marathon runner. His blood was so diluted that it no longer had enough minerals in it to keep his heart beating.
The trick is to drink something that contains enough electrolytes.

BTW, Dr. Hal Huggins found that dried seawater is not good for the blood, but pickling/canning salt causes no bad changes. This from blood work done on his patients, and their experience.

I'm drinking distilled + picking salt, at ~1/2 to 1 teaspoon/day.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: RogueFarmer on March 04, 2013, 10:22:39 pm
It was drinking water that killed a marathon runner. His blood was so diluted that it no longer had enough minerals in it to keep his heart beating.
The trick is to drink something that contains enough electrolytes.

BTW, Dr. Hal Huggins found that dried seawater is not good for the blood, but pickling/canning salt causes no bad changes. This from blood work done on his patients, and their experience.

I'm drinking distilled + picking salt, at ~1/2 to 1 teaspoon/day.

Omg you have got to be out of your mind, that is so counter intuitive and from everything I have learned and experienced could not possibly be true that salt is healthy and kelp is unhealthy. Did the blood work test for EVERYTHING? How was this kelp dried? Cooked kelp likely may be harmful as it has very high levels of minerals that could lose their cations and become toxic when heated.

Thorvin kelp is the highest quality kelp you can get for livestock. They also have human grade products. It is harvested sustainably in Iceland and dried using geothermal energy at low heat to preserve the quality.

I rarely eat kelp because I probably make better use of the iodine coming out of my animals who are eating kelp than I do, though I do eat pinches here and there when I am feeding the animals.

Seeing the results on my animals first hand by using kelp I have to beg to differ.




Personally I rarely drink water, albeit I drink plenty of raw milk most of the time. Only when it is very hot out and I am doing physical labor do I become to take some small gulps of water. I rarely use salt and when I do it is small pinches of hand harvested sea salt.

I'm pretty into the glass of water, tablespoon of honey, tablespoon of apple cider vinegar which was an idea out of "Vermont Folk Medicine" to go along with a meal. Aids in digestion.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: William on March 05, 2013, 01:39:04 am
If you read Dr. Hal Huggins' work you'll find that he is respectable, and no fool. And BTW it is not an opinion, and not mine.

If you read the iodine supplementation forum at curezone.com you shall see reasons not to eat anything from oceans. It's too much to remember here.

"Vermont Folk Medicine" is respectable, but you should keep in mind that it refers to a time before the overwhelming pollution we must cope with now. Note the tiny quantities of iodine.
For only one instance, Fukushima radiation leaks have already make milk too radioactive to drink in parts of the U.S.A.
http://www.amazon.com/Iodine-Bringing-Universal-Medicine-ebook/dp/B00501MTHQ#reader_B00501MTHQ (http://www.amazon.com/Iodine-Bringing-Universal-Medicine-ebook/dp/B00501MTHQ#reader_B00501MTHQ)

"Seeing the results on my animals first hand by using kelp I have to beg to differ."
Domestic livestock does not live long enough to show symptoms of the poisons in ocean source stuff. For instance I was in my 60s before the mercury poisoning from 50 years of amalgam fillings caused any apparent problem.


Title: Re: No Water
Post by: RogueFarmer on March 05, 2013, 02:27:10 am
Totally bogus. Modern domestic herbivores all need more minerals than can be found on land except some extremely rare dry land areas in remote parts of the world. For instance in Great Britain, feral goats don't live more than 15 miles from the ocean or a few rare exposed mineral caches. They have been eating kelp since they have existed. Some parts of the world wild cattle and deer rely on kelp as a main food source during parts of the year. The only reason there aren't gobs of studies showing how good it is is because there isn't any money in funding the research. I assure you, the oceans are far less polluted than almost anywhere on land, because they are protected by the universal brine of life, which is about the same as the mineral composition of our blood, which apparently to you is poison... on land most of the living soil is dead and that compromises the mineral cations in the soil, tying up trace minerals and exposing us to more lead, flouride, aluminum and amonia than can be found in "polluted" ocean water. Yes the ocean is polluted, but not that much more than it ever has been. It is the source of life. You make a mockery of yourself by labeling it as poison.

Not to mention that humanity itself most likely evolved eating a large portion of sea foods and historically almost everyone who could get seafood ate it in quantity, even if other types of foods were plentiful.

I would eat seafood as a large part of my diet along with my partners if I were ever to help conceive a child and a young child also should have access to seafood as a regular part of their diet. Probably the best food for remineralizing bodies, bones and teeth, protecting from toxins and feeding minds. If not the best food of all.


Also, whenever I eat food with any regular salt in it, I get really really thirsty and feel like drinking a lot of water. If I don't drink the water I would feel terrible so I drink up. At a normal restaurant this would probably mean 4-8 glasses of water.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Haai on March 05, 2013, 04:28:38 am
Also, whenever I eat food with any regular salt in it, I get really really thirsty and feel like drinking a lot of water. If I don't drink the water I would feel terrible so I drink up. At a normal restaurant this would probably mean 4-8 glasses of water.

I don't think it matters much whether the salt is regular shit or high quality sea salt, because after eating say 1 or 2 teaspoons of sea salt I get so thirsty that I have to drink 1 or 2 litres of water. So I don't eat any salt anymore.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: primalgirl on July 13, 2013, 01:40:12 am
I don't think it matters much whether the salt is regular shit or high quality sea salt, because after eating say 1 or 2 teaspoons of sea salt I get so thirsty that I have to drink 1 or 2 litres of water. So I don't eat any salt anymore.

Oh yes me too, so grateful to be off salt! I was at an event last night and there was a bowl of potato chips (long time addiction) and I picked one up and held it for a few seconds then tossed it into the trash, it created such a negative feeling in me...blew my mind! And when I do eat cooked/salted food I have to drink soooo much water to flush it out of me and feel better uck.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: political atheist on April 12, 2015, 06:28:47 pm
(AV says that one grain of sea salt kills 50,000 red blood cells)

is there any proof of that?
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: raw-al on April 13, 2015, 12:56:03 am
Nowadays thanks to the; chlorine, fluoride (with fl. water and toothpaste etc) & bromine which is added to a variety of things including flour in some countries, it is necessary to get rid of this stuff, as being a halide it attaches itself to the thyroid in the iodine receptors thus causing your thyroid to not be able to work properly in producing hormones for body temperature regulation etc.

Soooo it is suggested to drink about 1/2 teaspoon of (anything but rock salt) salt in an eight ounce glass of water and then have another glass of water after that to download these halides from the system. It is called salt flushing. Then having some source of iodine, whether it be seaweed, free-range eggs, oysters, seafood, Lugols etc to replenish the system to assist the thyroid.

A natural form of iodine is a personal favourite. Lugols tends to be a bit strong causing a headache in higher doses, but it is useful and was once a very important medicinal, a staple almost cure-all used by Docs until big pharma figured out a way to discredit it with phoney science. No money in curing.

I used to have a lot of trouble with salt, but discovered it was the rock salt variety that was problematic.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: political atheist on April 22, 2015, 03:00:37 am
Nowadays thanks to the; chlorine, fluoride (with fl. water and toothpaste etc) & bromine which is added to a variety of things including flour in some countries, it is necessary to get rid of this stuff, as being a halide it attaches itself to the thyroid in the iodine receptors thus causing your thyroid to not be able to work properly in producing hormones for body temperature regulation etc.

Soooo it is suggested to drink about 1/2 teaspoon of (anything but rock salt) salt in an eight ounce glass of water and then have another glass of water after that to download these halides from the system. It is called salt flushing. Then having some source of iodine, whether it be seaweed, free-range eggs, oysters, seafood, Lugols etc to replenish the system to assist the thyroid.

A natural form of iodine is a personal favourite. Lugols tends to be a bit strong causing a headache in higher doses, but it is useful and was once a very important medicinal, a staple almost cure-all used by Docs until big pharma figured out a way to discredit it with phoney science. No money in curing.

I used to have a lot of trouble with salt, but discovered it was the rock salt variety that was problematic.

did you ever read about Sole water?
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Robinlove on June 14, 2017, 11:18:25 am
This is a very interesting topic. Much for my brain to think about.
Title: Is distilled water raw or not?
Post by: surfsteve on June 15, 2017, 12:04:27 am
I was just wondering if distilled water was technically permitted on a raw food diet or not. I suppose it's more of a philosophical question than a scientific one.

I drink reverse osmosis water so I suppose it doesn't really concern me. I used to add minerals back into it but started forgetting. I think it's because I been eating a lot of salt and don't need them anymore.
Title: I suppose tea isn't really raw either.
Post by: surfsteve on June 15, 2017, 12:11:28 am
When I stopped drinking coffee the main reason I didn't switch to drinking tea was that it was made from boiling water and I didn't feel like it was raw. I suppose sun tea would be the exception. Maybe I might try that one of these days but for now I'm satisfied with juicing...
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Robinlove on June 17, 2017, 12:50:41 pm
I wouldn't need water if I was consuming like half a gallon of raw milk everyday, either. Ha.
Title: Re: I suppose tea isn't really raw either.
Post by: Robinlove on June 17, 2017, 12:52:29 pm
When I stopped drinking coffee the main reason I didn't switch to drinking tea was that it was made from boiling water and I didn't feel like it was raw. I suppose sun tea would be the exception. Maybe I might try that one of these days but for now I'm satisfied with juicing...
but but... Rivers are from ice and snow which is put there from the water evaporating. So water is always going to be boiled at some point. The leaves certainly are boiled in tea, though. But water is never raw! Haha now I'm poking fun at you 😀
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: surfsteve on June 18, 2017, 03:28:21 am
Yes but evaporated water is not boiled water. Unless maybe it came from a volcano! Water that has been boiled a million years ago doesn't count in my mind because it's had a chance to be cultured over and over by living organism's. Supposedly some of that remains in water's essence.
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: Gatsuri on November 26, 2018, 01:27:30 am
If someone drinks a lot of raw milk and blood and tolerates that well probably no need, I just stick to mineral water like Evian but I drink way less than I did when I still ate a standard diet
Title: Re: No Water
Post by: dariorpl on November 27, 2018, 07:05:38 am
It's true that distilled water leaches minerals. I had a  very frightening experience during my distilled-water experiments. I would drink gallons of the stuff and still feel the need to drink much more as I never ever felt sated. I've since been told that the best way to absorb water is to put a little something in it like salt or lemon etc.

All water will do this. It will not only leech minerals but all nutrients from your body. Yes, it will leech some toxins too, and that's why a little water can be a good idea. But like AV said, it's a solvent. Like soap for the inside of your body. If you go crazy with it, you'll have problems.

Distilled is just worse as it heavily leeches minerals. I'm not sure if adding back minerals chemically extracted from petroleum and the like would help. It certainly doesn't sound very natural.