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Title: Alcohol can cause cancer and is particularly lethal to those of Asian descent
Post by: TylerDurden on August 24, 2012, 02:01:16 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2192611/How-alcohol-causes-cancer--particularly-lethal-Asian-descent.html?ito=feeds-newsxml (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2192611/How-alcohol-causes-cancer--particularly-lethal-Asian-descent.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)
Title: Re: Alcohol can cause cancer and is particularly lethal to those of Asian descent
Post by: Suiren on August 24, 2012, 07:04:21 am
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A bout 30 per cent of people of Asian descent are unable to metabolise alcohol into harmless constituents


So 70% are able to handle it okay? That surprises me. I have seen about every full Asian turn bright blotchy red when drinking.
I wonder if there is a way to tell who can and who can't metabolize the alcohol.
Title: Re: Alcohol can cause cancer and is particularly lethal to those of Asian descent
Post by: goodsamaritan on August 24, 2012, 07:58:38 am
So 70% are able to handle it okay? That surprises me. I have seen about every full Asian turn bright blotchy red when drinking.
I wonder if there is a way to tell who can and who can't metabolize the alcohol.

There are women I personally know who absolutely abhor alcohol and will not even socially drink for any reason.
Title: Re: Alcohol can cause cancer and is particularly lethal to those of Asian descent
Post by: TylerDurden on August 24, 2012, 12:42:40 pm
So 70% are able to handle it okay? That surprises me. I have seen about every full Asian turn bright blotchy red when drinking.
I wonder if there is a way to tell who can and who can't metabolize the alcohol.
Yes, I would have thought it was 70% of Asians who couldn't handle alcohol. Maybe they were thinking of those Asians who had the severest reactions  as regards the 30% figure, with another significant percentage being less affected by alcohol but still worse than Europeans -plus, Northern Chinese do have some Caucasian DNA which might confuse the issue further.
Title: Re: Alcohol can cause cancer and is particularly lethal to those of Asian descent
Post by: Suiren on August 24, 2012, 10:02:17 pm
Yes, I would have thought it was 70% of Asians who couldn't handle alcohol. Maybe they were thinking of those Asians who had the severest reactions  as regards the 30% figure, with another significant percentage being less affected by alcohol but still worse than Europeans -plus, Northern Chinese do have some Caucasian DNA which might confuse the issue further.
That might be true. Plus many Asians have different genes depending on their location.
There is the Ainu in Japan, that are not mongoloid by origin and if I am correct many Southern Islanders have had more than just recent mixing.

Title: Re: Alcohol can cause cancer and is particularly lethal to those of Asian descent
Post by: TylerDurden on August 25, 2012, 01:36:50 am
There was a myth that the Ainu were Caucasoid, they  actually come from ancient Siberia and Polynesia, ultimately(the jomon peoples).
Title: Re: Alcohol can cause cancer and is particularly lethal to those of Asian descent
Post by: Suiren on August 25, 2012, 03:43:57 am
I think that was also said because their looks are not typical mongoloid and few have been seen with light eyes.

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The Ainu have often been considered to descend from the J?mon-jin people, who lived in Japan from the J?mon period.[31] One of their Yukar Upopo, or legends, tells that "They lived in this place a hundred thousand years before the Children of the Sun came."[32]
Recent research suggests that the historical Ainu culture originated in a merger of the Okhotsk culture with the Satsumon, one of the ancient archaeological cultures that are considered to have derived from the J?mon period cultures of the Japanese Archipelago.[33] Their economy was based on farming, as well as hunting, fishing and gathering.[34]
Full-blooded Ainu are lighter skinned than their Japanese neighbors and have more body hair.[35] Many early investigators proposed a Caucasian ancestry,[36] although recent DNA tests have not shown any genetic similarity with modern Europeans. However, Margaret Sleeboom-Faulkner of the Department of Anthropology at the University of Sussex said Kanz? Umehara considered the Ainu and some Ryukyuans to have "preserved their proto-Mongoloid traits"[37] According to anthropologist Elsie Clews Parsons physical features of the Proto-Mongoloid were characterized as, "a straight-haired type, medium in complexion, jaw protrusion, nose-breadth, and inclining probably to round-headedness".[38] According to Cavalli-Sforza, Ainu are in the same genetic cluster as the "Northeast and East Asian".....................[39]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people#Origins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people#Origins)

Tbh I think exactly we will never know their complete origin, because wouldn't we have to be able to test on many actual bodies from a long time ago? Modern Ainu are pretty mixed and not a good indicator.

I also found this funny : http://eurasiannation.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=9753 (http://eurasiannation.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=9753)
Title: Re: Alcohol can cause cancer and is particularly lethal to those of Asian descent
Post by: TylerDurden on August 25, 2012, 03:53:34 am
Light-coloured eyes must indicate at least a minor European origin, no matter how small a part. There are even some Sri Lankans with blue eyes.
Title: Re: Alcohol can cause cancer and is particularly lethal to those of Asian descent
Post by: Suiren on August 26, 2012, 06:33:58 am
Light-coloured eyes must indicate at least a minor European origin, no matter how small a part. There are even some Sri Lankans with blue eyes.

There is a green eyed Ainu man here:
http://i47.tinypic.com/34ht9xy.jpg (http://i47.tinypic.com/34ht9xy.jpg)

Some more interesting Ainu here:
http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Reviews/HumanSciences/ainu.jpg (http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Reviews/HumanSciences/ainu.jpg)
http://ipsnews.net/pictures/Ain1.jpg (http://ipsnews.net/pictures/Ain1.jpg)
http://i40.tinypic.com/20rod28.jpg (http://i40.tinypic.com/20rod28.jpg)
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/028dbjeeH39ct/610x.jpg (http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/028dbjeeH39ct/610x.jpg)
http://i43.tinypic.com/3516flc.jpg (http://i43.tinypic.com/3516flc.jpg)
http://i43.tinypic.com/1zwm8ud.jpg (http://i43.tinypic.com/1zwm8ud.jpg)
http://i40.tinypic.com/2meo4gl.jpg (http://i40.tinypic.com/2meo4gl.jpg)  light eyes
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly7pvuDvcZ1qlsr3bo1_500.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly7pvuDvcZ1qlsr3bo1_500.jpg) (light eyes)

Sorry, don't want to go too much OT just thought it was interesting.