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Raw Paleo Diet Forums => Off Topic => Topic started by: TylerDurden on April 08, 2013, 12:59:52 am
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9977214/Vegans-and-druids-to-gain-workplace-rights-under-new-equality-rules.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9977214/Vegans-and-druids-to-gain-workplace-rights-under-new-equality-rules.html)
These new "rights" disgust me as those sort usually involve the removal of rights from other groups - a good example is the forced introduction of unisex toilets in order to give rights to transexuals, but, in the process, depriving men of the right to use urinals, among many other things. However, on a more amusing note, those of us who don't belong to some so-called "deprived" group, can now presumably soon insist on staff canteens/airlines etc. providing rawpalaeo foods etc.
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Indeed, that's another milestone in political correct nonsense and woosification there. Unfortunately, it seems to eventually filter over here. I'd rather be inconvenienced at times and keep my freedoms than have the government force employers to kowtow to my WOE or views. Besides, it's not as though these people weren't being allowed to eat vegan--just keep the employee fridge clean that happened to contain other people's foods (presumably in containers) that they disagree with. Having to touch a container that contains meat or dairy foods doesn't seem to be an excessive burden.
What if there's only one meat eater and all the rest are vegans/vegetarians? Does this mean the meat eater has to clean up after all the vegans/vegetarians, regardless of how many there are? That seems more burdensome than requiring vegans to touch milk cartons.
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Exactly. Although there are a minority of vegans who literally will not touch anything leather in any way etc., the above rules would ultimately deprive meat-eaters the right to enjoy leather seats in the office etc. etc. In the case of different religions, the notion of allowing Jews and Muslims the right to take time off early on Friday is grossly unfair to Christians and others unless they are still forced to make up those missing extra hours at another time in order to complete a standard 40-hour work-week or whatever. Obviously, though, the latter could only work if the relevant business also worked outside the 9am-6pm, Monday-Friday routine.
My father always used to say that freedom of association was the most important freedom of them all, and that even if one possessed all the other freedoms, but not the right to freedom of association, then all the other freedoms had no value by comparison. I personally think that companies' owners have the right to impose their own rules/laws in light of their own beliefs, after all it's their own company.
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I'm sick of hearing about gay marriage. Equal signs on facebook blaa blaa
If homos want to get married go for it. I'm sure as a person who likes other dudes or other chicks you have dreamed of the day you get married since you were a kid. Ha!
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9977214/Vegans-and-druids-to-gain-workplace-rights-under-new-equality-rules.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9977214/Vegans-and-druids-to-gain-workplace-rights-under-new-equality-rules.html)
These new "rights" disgust me as those sort usually involve the removal of rights from other groups - a good example is the forced introduction of unisex toilets in order to give rights to transexuals, but, in the process, depriving men of the right to use urinals, among many other things. However, on a more amusing note, those of us who don't belong to some so-called "deprived" group, can now presumably soon insist on staff canteens/airlines etc. providing rawpalaeo foods etc.
As a white middle class male who pays for everything you have no chance. Will be illegal to be male soon.
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I'm sick of hearing about gay marriage. Equal signs on facebook blaa blaa
If homos want to get married go for it. I'm sure as a person who likes other dudes or other chicks you have dreamed of the day you get married since you were a kid. Ha!
I would like to see the abolition of government paper marriage.
*** This was me goodsamaritan --- doing maintenance ***
If they are to see marriage as just any private contract, then homos can and should get married as well... then I would like to see polygamy legal as well.... all forms legal.
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government shouldnt be involved in marriage at all.
that being said, homosexuality is an unnatural mental illness and its disgusting.
on another note my friend just got into a fight with some guys who turned out to be gay and now hes being made an example of in the media, facing 5 years because of a "hate crime"
first of all it is irrelevant what is going on in your head when you commit a crime, what matter is what the crime was not the the thoughts. Second of all, I know this guy doesnt hate homosexuals, it just proves we are in such a sick society that getting into a fight with someone who turns out to be a homosexual can ruin your life forever. If they werent gay hed robably be facing 1 year maximum.
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on a similar note, an australian school has banned gender. Students must refer to each other as friend rather than he or she.
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government shouldnt be involved in marriage at all.
that being said, homosexuality is an unnatural mental illness and its disgusting.
on another note my friend just got into a fight with some guys who turned out to be gay and now hes being made an example of in the media, facing 5 years because of a "hate crime"
first of all it is irrelevant what is going on in your head when you commit a crime, what matter is what the crime was not the the thoughts. Second of all, I know this guy doesnt hate homosexuals, it just proves we are in such a sick society that getting into a fight with someone who turns out to be a homosexual can ruin your life forever. If they werent gay hed robably be facing 1 year maximum.
It sounds like your friend has got some problems. Has he ever done anything to investigate why he gets in fights?
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that being said, homosexuality is an unnatural mental illness and its disgusting.
Close minded much?
You realize many wild animals engage in homosexual behaviors. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals)
I find homosexuality to be natural, and an essential part of life. I like to use the example of people who say we shouldn't eat seeds, they're meant for planting. If we planted every seed from every food we eat that has seeds, we'd run out of space for planting. So I say eat them.
Same thing with homosexuality. If every male had unprotected, child bearing sex with every woman, we'd run out of space for everything. We'd be super overpopulated. We'd run out of resources, food, water..
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It sounds like your friend has got some problems. Has he ever done anything to investigate why he gets in fights?
Yes its called drinking. Fighting is one of the reasons i stopped drinking since its just such a natural part of the drinking experience for me.
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Close minded much?
You realize many wild animals engage in homosexual behaviors. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals)
I find homosexuality to be natural, and an essential part of life. I like to use the example of people who say we shouldn't eat seeds, they're meant for planting. If we planted every seed from every food we eat that has seeds, we'd run out of space for planting. So I say eat them.
Same thing with homosexuality. If every male had unprotected, child bearing sex with every woman, we'd run out of space for everything. We'd be super overpopulated. We'd run out of resources, food, water..
The concept of having to keep the population down to save the earth is a rediculous fallacy. If the population ever got too high the amount of people would die until the balance was restored. Its impossible to do too much of anything natural on planet earth. Earth always rebalances itself.
and just because an animal does something doesnt make it natural. A penis is obviously meant to go into a vagina in order create children, thats clearly the biological purpose of genitalia. If you want to use your genital for something else thats your right but you are clearly doing it wrong if so.
Just imagine if everyone was homosexual. The human race would be over. But thats exactly what the elite want and why they are pushing this in order to cause depopulation as well as the destruction of the family unit. ALso remember that right before the collapse of EVERY civilization, homosexuality becomes rampant. Its just another main sign of societal collapse.
Homosexuality is just another antihuman poison being spread in our society for depopulation. It is being used against the human race. Thats why homosexuals are a protected class and if you get into a fight with a homosexual without knowing it then you could face a five year felony sentence instead of a max one year misdemeanor which is a normal sentence for handing out a beatdown to a straight man. He didnt even beat them up that bad. He was actually hurt worse in many ways and followed for before the fight but since hes not gay he isnt protected.
also these days you have to be open minded to accept that homosexuality is a mental illness. Our societies current mainstream view is that homosexuality is good and and iv had this message hammered into my head since I was a little child, I was so heavily indoctrinated and closed minded with this because of my school/media indoctrination that it took me years to open my mind to the possibilty that it is a mental illness.
Holding the most mainstream view in society is definitly not open minded.
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and if you can provide me a video of a wild animal having gay sex ill believe it.
It is also a disease simply because its detrimental to the survival of the human race. If it took full control of humanity the race would be extinct. just like if any disease completely taking over a person=death.
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Yes its called drinking. Fighting is one of the reasons i stopped drinking since its just such a natural part of the drinking experience for me.
LOL!!!
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The concept of having to keep the population down to save the earth is a rediculous fallacy. If the population ever got too high the amount of people would die until the balance was restored. Its impossible to do too much of anything natural on planet earth. Earth always rebalances itself.
How exactly does this work? Could you be more detailed? How exactly would people just "die" until balance was "restored?"
and just because an animal does something doesnt make it natural. A penis is obviously meant to go into a vagina in order create children, thats clearly the biological purpose of genitalia. If you want to use your genital for something else thats your right but you are clearly doing it wrong if so.
So if a penis is only meant to go in a vagina, I assume oral sex is wrong. So are hand jobs and fingering? Kissing also, unnatural. Where do you draw the line between what is natural and what's not?
Also, if the sole purpose of having a vagina and a penis is to recreate, then what's the point of sex feeling good? Why does an orgasm feel good? Is it then right to circumcise men to reduce pleasure since it's only for reproducing? Maybe cutting off the clit (which they do in some places) is appropriate since sex should only be for reproducing?
Is it wrong to enjoy sex? Do you have sex? When you do, do you use condoms, birth control? Means of not getting her pregnant? Wouldn't that be "unnatural?"
Just imagine if everyone was homosexual. The human race would be over. But thats exactly what the elite want and why they are pushing this in order to cause depopulation as well as the destruction of the family unit. ALso remember that right before the collapse of EVERY civilization, homosexuality becomes rampant. Its just another main sign of societal collapse.
I'm not advocating everyone being gay, or even fully gay. But a bisexual could have sex with men, and still have sex with women.
Also, could you provide links, studies, etc. of societies collapsing when there's an increase in homosexuality?
and if you can provide me a video of a wild animal having gay sex ill believe it.
Please, youtube "wild animals homosexuality." You'll find various videos debunking that homosexuality is "unnatural," and that it doesn't occur in the animal kingdom.
It is also a disease simply because its detrimental to the survival of the human race. If it took full control of humanity the race would be extinct. just like if any disease completely taking over a person=death.
Could you provide examples? There seems to be a rather hefty list of animals that engage in homosexual activities from the link I provided ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals) ), all doing relatively well. How has this "disease," called homosexuality according to you, taken over and destroyed those animal species?
Also, here is one example of what I'm describing from the link I provided.
"Mallards form male-female pairs only until the female lays eggs, at which time the male leaves the female. Mallards have rates of male-male sexual activity that are unusually high for birds, in some cases, as high as 19% of all pairs in a population."
Something else I failed to mention is men have a "male g spot, " http://www.askmen.com/dating/vanessa/23_love_secrets.html (http://www.askmen.com/dating/vanessa/23_love_secrets.html) - located in the anus.
Interestingly, anal sex also seems to increase prostate health. http://negativeninetythousand.blogspot.com/2010/12/fact-anal-sex-reduces-risk-of-prostate.html (http://negativeninetythousand.blogspot.com/2010/12/fact-anal-sex-reduces-risk-of-prostate.html)
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My understanding of circumcision is that the writers of the text lived in an area where sand commonly got into the area under the skin and caused infection So it was actually a safety or health issue.
This of course was no doubt the reason for the prohibition of eating pigs for some religions.
The prohibition on eating cows for Hindus was most likely that they were more valuable alive as a source of milk.
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Pigs are actually very clean animals when left to themselves. They are only dirty when humans make them so. Circumcision has no validity scientifically, it is merely a carry-over from tribal times- tribes are notoriously savage peoples who institute harsh puberty rites - their idea was that no one would respect being a man unless a nasty, painful rite had to be gone through, such as circumcision - later on, circumcision was used on babies.
Re homosexuality:- there is no such thing. Sex involves the penis going into the vagina for the purpose of producing babies. Everything else is just anonymous "mutual masturbation" whatever male/female /male/male or female/female "doings" are involved.
Homosexuality among wild animals only affects some species. Of those, many scientists state that such "homosexual" pairings are not really "homosexual" but merely means to maintain social bonds etc. For example, cows sometimes "mount" other cows in order to get the bull sexually excited and get more sex.
Ancient Sparta is a classic case of a society warped by and eventually destroyed by homosexuality, although homosexuality was only one such factor of destruction. The current Western society is another one being destroyed by homosexuality, among other factors.
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Yes homosexuality is always prevalent before the downfall of a civilization. As the men become weak and effeminate they become concerned only with enjoy themselves and luxury and thats all they get until the real men, the "barbarians" are at the gates taking everything they have as they are too weak to do anything about.
This is how I know the US is coming to end. at least 80 percent of the males here are either gay or effeminate at this point. I live in NYC though, things may be different out in the country.
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anal sex is good for the prostate??? Wowzer
I guess when your asshole is bleeding from having a dick inside of it that just means your prostate is gaining extra health.
I can do nothing nothing but laugh at anyone who thinks anal sex is natural. Just think about it for one second and if you still have the ability to think you will instantly see that the concept is pur insanity.
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Re homosexuality:- there is no such thing. Sex involves the penis going into the vagina for the purpose of producing babies. Everything else is just anonymous "mutual masturbation" whatever male/female /male/male or female/female "doings" are involved.
Homosexuality among wild animals only affects some species. Of those, many scientists state that such "homosexual" pairings are not really "homosexual" but merely means to maintain social bonds etc. For example, cows sometimes "mount" other cows in order to get the bull sexually excited and get more sex.
I assume you're speaking from ignorance, and haven't looked into the topic much. There are many, many documented, even video taped examples of homosexuality in the animal kingdom.
Gay lions
Gay Lions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsfZbfCNOds#)
Male 3 way of lions
Gay Lions. Homosexuality is a common trait among lions. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8gttC6P3bE#)
And more gay lions
Gay Male Crater Lions. Some unique bonding amung mature male lions. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkPgtQBcRQs#)
Of course gay is probably the wrong term, and bisexual is more appropriate.
Here is a 5 part series on homosexual (and other non reproductive) sex in the animal kingdom.
Wild Sex 1of5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMlpETvwPrs#)
Youtube is filled with videos, documentaries, etc. of homosexual wild animals. A simple search "homosexual wild animals," will find you many more.
I can do nothing nothing but laugh at anyone who thinks anal sex is natural. Just think about it for one second and if you still have the ability to think you will instantly see that the concept is pur insanity.
Troll, where did you reach your conclusions? Is it you religious beliefs? Something your creator says is wrong? Please feel free to explain why homosexuality is "unnatural." Also, please tell us how you engage in sexual activities, and how many babies you have now. Being as you're a straight man and I assume you're sexually active.
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Just watched I just watched all the lion videos and I must say you clearly see what you want to see. In the first video it can be seen more clearly than in the others but there is definitly no penetration going on. The bottom lions tail is down and all contact is clearly above the tail. Not only that but the most they do is2 or 3 thrusts. They all look totally bored the whole time as well not sexually aroused at all. If you call that sex then you might as well call wrestling with your chlothes on sex because there was no penetration and maybe a couple thrusts during each mounting. Not inly that but in another of the videos you can see one of the lions doing the exact same thing with a couple thrusts but he mounted the other lion from the side, nowhere near the asshole.
Sorry but what I saw in those videos was not sex, not sure what it was.
Havent watched the national geo video, will check it out when I have time. Needless to say the television pushes homosexuality non stop so I wouldnt put it past them to act like stuff like those lion videos is sex,
Also anything that causes severe internal bleeding to one of your organs (rectum) should not be done. Without lube bleeding is very common. The vagina was meant to be penetrated and is therefore 1)lubricated and 2)acidic to prevent infection, the anus has neither of these things and is therefore very prone to tearing and infection when used as a vagina. THis should be proof enough that it shouldnt be done.
I have no religious beliefs and I dont believe my creator says anything. He only speaks to me through the perfection of the creation.
and the details of my sex life are none of your business. Needless to say I believe that sex is for reproduction (what a crazy idea!), contraceptive sex is bad and I would love to have 100 kids or more.
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Pigs are actually very clean animals when left to themselves. They are only dirty when humans make them so.
Amen! My grandfather raised pigs and said exactly the same thing. Bravo! And welcome back.
Ancient Sparta is a classic case of a society warped by and eventually destroyed by homosexuality, although homosexuality was only one such factor of destruction.
Putting the homosexuality stuff aside, the current Western adulation for Sparta and portrayal of them as freedom fighters and the ridiculous demonization of Persia and Xerxes is bizarre, given that Sparta was a brutal and intolerant dictatorship with ruthless slavery and near-zero interest in culture or learning, whereas Persia was more an alliance of peoples, the height of culture and learning at that time, and the earliest bastion of religious freedom in the history of "civilized" nations. I suspect that the current hostility toward Iran, which should be a natural ally for Western nations, and Islam, is largely behind this. The sooner Iran can abandon that Arab religion, the better.
A more realistic depiction of "300" would make the Persians the heroes and the Spartans the assholes (although, with the extreme overacting, maybe the Spartans were portrayed as the a-holes), though I don't think the Spartans were total assholes either, but Hollyweird needs its black/white simplistic enemies and heroes.
The most common defense of "300" is that it was based on an idiotic comic book, so one shouldn't hold it to any logical standards, but that's even more reprehensible, because in fiction comic books and fiction movies, one can choose any message one wants, so why choose the most bizarre and inane message when one could choose a halfway decent one? Instead of making up nonsense, they could make up something decent, but chose not to. End of rant.
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didnt the persians come to invade the spartans and not the other way around?
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Good point. That was the big mistake of the Persians. Stay in your own land and don't invade other folks and feck with their land unless survival is at stake or you're just looking for some booty and then high-tail it out of there. Still, the Spartans were no freedom-loving liberators. They tried to conquer the Athenians and make slaves of them and only became portrayed positively because they fought the foreign invaders bravely (which is commendable, but not reason for claiming that they were more freedom-loving). As a matter of fact, if it hadn't been for the Persians, I doubt that the Spartans would be portrayed as freedom-fighters at all. They would have been portrayed as brutal oppressors in the history books. Read up on Sparta and you'll see that it was more similar to North Korea than a bastion of freedom. History is written by the victors and they have seen fit to portray the defeated Persians vastly more negatively than warranted.
In the longer run, for better or worse, the genes and culture of Persia and its allies was the inheritance of Europe, much more so than Sparta. Sparta was a brief aberration. However, I'm open to correction, as there is little written on this and I haven't studied it extensively.
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From what I gather the spartans are often admired for their fierce independence. They maintained their own money system while everyone else was borrowing from the bankers and maintained their own completely separate culture as well.
I definitly wouldnt want to live in sparta though.
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Yes, the Spartans' fierce independence was admirable, and they were worthy adversaries for our ancestors, but I too would have preferred to live in Persia, rather than Sparta.
It's a bit odd that most Europeans don't realize that they are descended from the various peoples of the Persian Empire, rather than Sparta, but so be it. You are one of the few who seem to be aware of this. It's frequently portrayed as the Spartans/Europeans/whites vs. the Persians/Monsters/Swarthy folk, when it was more like the Spartans vs. the Proto-Europeans/Aryans.
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I never actually thought that most whites were actually persian but I am open to the idea (I know im not a persian though because I am khazarian). Where did you hear about most europeans actually being persian id definitly like to read up.
Its funny because the "whitest" person iv ever seen in my life was completely iranian going back many generations. He had the whitests skin and reddest hair iv ever seen his facial feature also seemed quite different from most whites, while still being undeniably caucasoid his face seemed like a much more ancient strain of white than most.
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Not necessarily Persian, but part of the Persian Empire and other non-Greek allied peoples (Scythian, Sarmatian, Kurgan, etc.). Dig deep into your ancestors' actual history, instead of "300" myths, and you'll find it.
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I didnt know the scythians were allied with the persians. I hear they turned into the khazars.
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From what I've read, the Persians gave up trying to conquer the Scythians, who reportedly had many great warriors, skilled with horse and bow, and instead hired them as elite cavalry of the Persian empire; and the Khazars were reportedly another noble proto-Eurasian people who were also skilled with horse and bow. Whether they were the same people or not doesn't seem to matter as much as the culture of the steppes, and adjacent sacred hills, which permeated countless peoples. Indeed, some ancient "civilised" people reportedly referred to all steppes peoples as "Scythians" and Scythian culture seems to have influenced many steppes cultures. Later cultures that carried on many of the traditions had such notable heroes as Attila, Chinggis Khaan and Niall of the Nine Hostages.
The peoples of the steppes seem to have been less concerned with today's obsessions with fanatical religion and nationalism than with survival in the harsh steppes and with uniting in confederations under good leaders who practised religious tolerance and honored the old ways and tried to do what's best for the people.
The demonization of ancient "barbaric" European and Turkic peoples by today's "civilised" European and American nations is one of the great ironies of history. It is understandable, given past envy of the enormous power and wealth of the Roman Empire and the recent fundamentalist Islamist threat. Nearly all today's "barbaric" peoples seem to want to pretend to be Romans; yet that is gradually changing as "barbarian" pride is undergoing a bit of a renaissance (see the the History Channel's TV show "Vikings" for a good example).
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The Khazars actually had the biggest cavalry ever at the time. the horses being just one similarity between them and the scythians, them being extremely hard to conquer is another characteristic.
Funny how history views us european jews as being the poor little wandering victim going from place to place being oppressed. We actually ruled the most powerful kingdom of the time of the crusades and were known as a force not to be messed with by either the christians or the muslims. We were actually in the middle of them and remained independent while collecting tolls and taxes from anyone who passed through.
and as you can see today, that independent conquering spirit of these people has been used quite well by those in charge.
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Amen
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The biggest anti-gay activists out there are always secretly gay. That should tell you something.
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J.Edgar Hoover being the best example.
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The biggest anti-gay activists out there are always secretly gay. That should tell you something.
Thats just because most politicians are secretly gay.
Just look at bohemian grove hiring all those gay porn stars? (mainstream news, look for it if you want)
they arent anti gay because they are gay, they are anti gay in public just to seem normal to their voters. THese people definitly arent christians either yet pretend to be. Just look at the bohemian grove ritual, no way a christian is participating in that.