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Title: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: TylerDurden on September 28, 2014, 03:58:25 pm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16529878 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16529878)
Title: Re: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: Hanna on September 28, 2014, 07:03:07 pm
The complete article:
http://www.johnsonupdaydowndaydiet.com/pdf/ADCR%20JBJ%20MH.pdf (http://www.johnsonupdaydowndaydiet.com/pdf/ADCR%20JBJ%20MH.pdf)

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We have had anecdotal experience with over 500 subjects for up to 2.5 years following a repeating pattern of ad lib eating one day followed by 20– 50% of daily estimated calorie requirement the next day. We have observed improvement in a vari- ety of disease conditions, starting within 2 weeks (…)
So nothing is "proved", the evidence is just anecdotal.
Title: Re: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: Duke on October 06, 2014, 01:54:58 pm
The complete article:
http://www.johnsonupdaydowndaydiet.com/pdf/ADCR%20JBJ%20MH.pdf (http://www.johnsonupdaydowndaydiet.com/pdf/ADCR%20JBJ%20MH.pdf)
So nothing is "proved", the evidence is just anecdotal.

Calorie Restriction is beneficial for health.
The more calories you eat, the more free radicals your body produces. Free radicals are the by-product of energy production by your body and hence the more damage to your health you're doing. Running Marathons has the same effect; it ages you faster.
Title: Re: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 06, 2014, 10:13:53 pm
The complete article:
http://www.johnsonupdaydowndaydiet.com/pdf/ADCR%20JBJ%20MH.pdf (http://www.johnsonupdaydowndaydiet.com/pdf/ADCR%20JBJ%20MH.pdf)
So nothing is "proved", the evidence is just anecdotal.

Anecdotal is proof enough to me to go and try it out myself.

And then I will share my own experience.
Title: Re: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: van on October 07, 2014, 12:45:34 am
I'd postulate that one would get the same benefit by consistently eating raw and moderate.   That means not overeating even one meal.   But eating just to satisfy the body's needs at that time.  Another way of describing this, is the saying,,  leave the table a bit hungry.    My experience is that any overeating is toxic.   And the notion of the yoyo, overeating, and undereating the next day is another method the mind will adopt to try to stay in 'control'.    We like methods.   We like fixes.  We like thinking. 
Title: Re: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: goodsamaritan on October 07, 2014, 01:16:07 am
I'd postulate that one would get the same benefit by consistently eating raw and moderate.   That means not overeating even one meal.   But eating just to satisfy the body's needs at that time.  Another way of describing this, is the saying,,  leave the table a bit hungry.    My experience is that any overeating is toxic.   And the notion of the yoyo, overeating, and undereating the next day is another method the mind will adopt to try to stay in 'control'.    We like methods.   We like fixes.  We like thinking. 

I agree with this observation.  I have been experiencing this this year.
I think it has more to do with finally having enough nutrition.
Seems in the old cooked days I could never get enough nutrition that is why I could eat by the clock.
Nowadays not eating for a day or diluted juice fasting is such an easy comfy thing to do.
Title: Re: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: Johan August on October 07, 2014, 03:16:03 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01lxyzc/horizon-20122013-3-eat-fast-and-live-longer (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01lxyzc/horizon-20122013-3-eat-fast-and-live-longer)

This documentary is very interesting concerning IF.
Title: Re: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: Johan August on October 07, 2014, 03:21:57 am
I'd postulate that one would get the same benefit by consistently eating raw and moderate.   That means not overeating even one meal.   But eating just to satisfy the body's needs at that time.  Another way of describing this, is the saying,,  leave the table a bit hungry.    My experience is that any overeating is toxic.   And the notion of the yoyo, overeating, and undereating the next day is another method the mind will adopt to try to stay in 'control'.    We like methods.   We like fixes.  We like thinking. 
I think possibly you are underestimating the physical processes which take place when you fast The body does things when you fast which it does not do when you eat regularly and do not experience hunger.
Title: Re: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: raw-al on October 07, 2014, 04:55:30 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01lxyzc/horizon-20122013-3-eat-fast-and-live-longer (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01lxyzc/horizon-20122013-3-eat-fast-and-live-longer)

This documentary is very interesting concerning IF.
Johan,
Is there another link to that documentary as it is not viewable for me. It says "Not viewable in your area"
Title: Re: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: van on October 07, 2014, 05:06:34 am
I think possibly you are underestimating the physical processes which take place when you fast The body does things when you fast which it does not do when you eat regularly and do not experience hunger.

   I have fasted,, lots.    And I also know or have come to witness the long term detriments of overeating.    My point really is, leave the table before full and your body can take care of what you ingest without resorting to fasting.    Eating raw anything, carbs, proteins, fats is very cleansing in itself, especially for those who grew up eating cooked.  Overeating raw can actually cause the reverse. 
Title: Re: Study proves benefits of Alternate Day Fasting
Post by: Johan August on October 07, 2014, 07:25:45 pm
raw-al

http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2014-01-09/latest-research-intermittent-fasting-0/transcript (http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2014-01-09/latest-research-intermittent-fasting-0/transcript)

I could not get a full view of the documentary on You Tube.  The above is an interesting interview of the two principal scientists and Michael Mosley which covers a lot of the same ground.