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Hot Topics / Re: Are Fish Oils (DHA & EPA) bad for us?
« on: December 08, 2009, 09:40:09 am »
All canned and or bottle fish is heated.  Cordain put out a paper demonstrating the effects of prolonged and high temp canning processes pretty much decimates the omega threes in canned fish.     They all eventually shoot themselves in the foot eventually regarding cooking/heat/etc.    You can only point so long at 'one' cooked item and mention the ill effects.....

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General Discussion / Re: How to consume bones?
« on: December 08, 2009, 08:18:26 am »
If anyone really wants me to list the steps again,  I'd be happy to, just let me know. 

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Health / Re: Desperate to get rid of health problems...
« on: December 07, 2009, 02:20:56 am »
colostrum from healthy grass fed cows is a wonderful food for many, when it comes in raw fresh state milked in the first few milkings.  In powdered form it has lost it's original brilliance.  Yes, in some lab identifiable form, chemists may be able to identify all the various elements in live colostrum, but they won't tell you about damaged proteins, oxidized fats, denatured vitamins, inorganic minerals, dead enzymes...
  Even if it's freeze dried, the cells have been frozen/broken open and now exposed to all kinds of oxygen.  Calves never drank frozen colostrum or milk, let alone freeze dried.  It's been messed with.  Kind of hard to find this time of year, although large dairies do bring in calves year around, but you might like to try the real stuff;  raw and fresh to compare. 

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Journals / Re: PaleoPhil's Journal
« on: December 06, 2009, 10:07:41 am »
don't know if you've seen my posts regarding mg. in ionic form from the great salt lake,  from Trace mins.  Been using them for around three years now.

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General Discussion / Re: leaving supermarket meat out of fridge
« on: December 06, 2009, 12:22:30 am »
Boy, I don't know Tyler,  that's a long time with no air.  I'd be concerned about the bacteria that thrive without air causing problems

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Advice on how to heal the gut
« on: December 04, 2009, 12:31:49 pm »
 probably most of us here have done green juices at one time or another.  one thing came clear to me after a while, long while.  that is that if I tried to chew and swallow the juice (spitting out the pulp) from any one of the greens I was using, at first it would be palatable, then in a short while, I would have to force myself to chew and swallow any significant amount.  Far less than had I juiced it in a machine, and especially if I had mixed it with say celery or apple or carrot etc.  I think the intestinal distress is simply the body trying to get rid of what it doesn't need or want.  When we juice with machines rather than our own mouths, we bypass the stop that tells us when we've had enough, for it then becomes a mind thing, like, 'green juice will make me so and so...'    and then there are the more is better thoughts.   

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General Discussion / Re: what for lunch for raw toddler?
« on: December 01, 2009, 10:00:45 am »
Raw,  two suggestions.  First, make friends with the butcher manager at Whole foods, if you have one near you. Offer to pay for his grass fed fat trimmings.  Keep a consistent buying relationship, bring him/her a gift maybe.   Second, I respect Tyler's experience with milk, dairy.  But there are factors which can make milk a success or failure.   First, is your son's intestines producing lactase, probably, since he's been breast fed, and you're making kefir.  Most lactose intolerant people simple don't have lactase to digest the milk sugar.  Lactase levels can be brought up to the level necessary to digest the lactose in milk.  But this is done by sytematically  inducing small amount of lactose along with bacteria that will thrive in the intestines and hence produce more lactase.  It's a catch 22 deal.  The other big one, is are the milk animals eating grains and are they eating green pasture?  In countries where they thrive on dairy, ie, the Swiss alps, their animals traditionally always had either bountiful amounts of green in summer, and a supply of grass hay in the winter to carry them over till springs early green shoots come up.  The animals then would have copious amounts of mineral, protein rich, enzymatic rich shoots to essentially regenerate from the winters limited dry food supply.  Here it's mostly dry forage and grains year around.  I can't stress how different the milk can be.

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General Discussion / Re: SARDINES. Check it baby!
« on: December 01, 2009, 09:49:38 am »
Sully,  I love North star, Mary, is great.  I use to buy my fat from them too, until they ran out for the reason you mentioned.  I sampled the 'other' bison fat.  It was pretty rank, as in oxidized.  Maybe you got a different lot, but look for the soap smell (unpleasant) and slight burn in the back of the throat.  And please don't mention my name if you do talk about it with her.  I wouldn't want her to think I am slighting any of their products.  Thanks

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General Discussion / Re: Eating Egg Shells
« on: December 01, 2009, 09:41:13 am »
Raw,  I would go with the ground up bone.  Egg shells unless powdered, are pretty hard for the body to breakdown and digest.  Also they don't have the mineral balance of bones.

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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: WHAT'S BONE MEAL AND HOW IT'S MADE
« on: December 01, 2009, 09:39:02 am »
Raw,  I think you can see the file Rawzi linked.  You use the fine grooved side,  not the coarse bumpy side.  Get a metal paint scaper to  scoop up the shavings into a spoon and eat on an empty stomach.  Wait till hungry again to have meat.  It's what I do, seems to digest really well that way.  You also need a wire paint scraping brush to push out the logged filing that get stuck in the grooves.  Real simple.  Store file and bones in Freezer.  The rib bones are yummy fresh, but even after a while in the fridge, they turn less than mediocre.  I have several tablespoons a day.  Working with a human bone grinding engineer to develop a for home electric grinder.  His models currently are for bone regeneration in the medical world.  YOu should hear him go on about what happens to bone when you grind to fast and the temps get hot.  The body will more often reject the material.  North star bison can sell you rib bones.  I have 600 in my deep freeze.  Plan to use them for my dogs at the farm when I get the electric grinder.
   A side note,  you can order a large amount, one month supply from North star, since they vacuum seal and ship only a day or two after slaughter.  It keeps up to a month in the fridge.  Think what you spend on gas and time just to go to the store...

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Unavailable Grass-fed Meat
« on: December 01, 2009, 04:31:59 am »
I didn't see whitebox anywhere near as threatening as superinfinity.  I think what you might want to look at is the tone of your emails back and forth with her.  In my opinion, they were antagonizing.  I might of sounded of at you myself.    One really hast to look deeply in the conveyed tone of one's communications, and not just simply at parts of an email that could be interpreted as offensive.   
   I don't think vegans have a chance against this forum.  We all have too much experience to be even the slightest bit daunted.

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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: WHAT'S BONE MEAL AND HOW IT'S MADE
« on: December 01, 2009, 03:33:26 am »
most bone meals are made with high steam heat, that breaks down the protein structure or bone.  they are then hammermilled or crushed to powder.  Better to take rib bones and file on a ribbed ferrier file, meant for horse hooves, and eat it raw and fresh.  Wouldn't touch bone meal myself.

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From what I have read,  most zcarbers poop a whole lot less and less infrequently.   I used to think if you didn't poop three times a day, when I was 811, that everyone else was clogged up.  Funny how our minds form such cast in stone opinions.      Yes, bacteria from carbs determine the amount of poop for those who's diet is carb vs. fat based.  Also, the proteins and fats, especially in their raw states, are highly utilized by the body, and hence, there's not a lot of 'kitchen scraps' left over to poop. 
    think I'll do a genialogical  study to trace back who indeed originated that word, just brilliant.

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Mostly what normal poo is bacteria.  With a diet lacking in carbs, those bacteria and hence the volume isn't there.

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Welcoming Committee / Re: Unavailable Grass-fed Meat
« on: December 01, 2009, 02:40:26 am »
have to agree with Yon.  Didn't see any problem with what he was saying,  I too pose my doubts to others to test the waters.  Otherwise it's just blind adherence. I can remember writing The Bear about how the Inuit ate fish and rib bones.  He wrote me back saying that I had mental disorders....  A lot of us have ruined our health following one diet or another, so for me it's a pretty healthy sign to be questioning what others are experiencing. 

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: Paul Nison, Guru
« on: November 30, 2009, 09:21:25 am »
If vegans would only be able to look at the masses of animals, small animals, they kill in order to eat.  But then it's like getting the leg of the chair you're leaning back on, kicked out from beneath you.  Not a place one will go willingly.

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General Discussion / Re: Bananas
« on: November 30, 2009, 09:17:15 am »
I experienced an aggressive/agitated state when I first started eating raw meat.  Firmly believe in the principle that raw proteins are highly aggressive cleansers and that the aggressive state is mostly toxins or cooked damaged proteins being exchanged in the body with raw proteins.   This may sound a little naive, but I have experienced it with raw fish.    It passes.        Also there is something to be said about when the body becomes healthy, it wants to express itself in all the ways it couldn't while held down with disease.    This also passes and normalizes.

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Off Topic / Re: Bee pollen, yay or nay?
« on: November 29, 2009, 10:53:14 am »
  I haven't seen the company mentioned in years.  You might google it if interested.    Like all diets it went well at first, then,  well I can't really remember, but I probably hit the wall,  I think it made me really hyper. I would mix the pollen with honey into a peanut butter consistency.  God it was good,  I think I was eating up to almost a cup at a sitting.  Oh well. 
   If you know any bee farmers, you can ask them to save you a frame of pollen, and if it comes with brood and or honey, that's nice too.  You'll have to wait till next summer I imagine.

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Off Topic / Re: Bee pollen, yay or nay?
« on: November 29, 2009, 04:52:59 am »
pollen imo should be in the form that the bees use, fermented in the comb.  the fermentation breaks down the outer husk of the pollen grain.  There at least use to be a swiss company called cerniten or something, that went to great lengths to extract the inside of the pollen seed so as to aid in human assimilation.  Their research at least seemed impressive.    Years ago, many years,  I tried living on pollen,  you know, another one of those mental ideas that seem so great at the time....

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General Discussion / Re: Trouble in Paradise - leg cramps
« on: November 29, 2009, 01:04:44 am »
Tyler I would love to see where you learned that the Krill oil you take is cold extracted.  I contacted Mercola's Krill oil supplier in Canada and found out they do indeed use heat, but wouldn't tell me how much....

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Primal Diet / Re: Just recieved raw butter...could it be spoiled?
« on: November 27, 2009, 10:11:27 am »
All my goats are dried up for years now.  Just pets till they pass on.   I bought a cream separator years ago.  It had aluminum parts that for some reason would impart aluminum into the cream.  I didn't use it much after I discovered that.   If I had goats in milk now, I would simply enjoy the cream,  maybe make butter, but I am not sure about the necessity of going so far as to make ghee.   When I had my goats in milk,  I didn't have the experience of having been zc; now for about three years.  My body wasn't very good with fats then.   I would welcome the opportunity of having raw grass fed butter or cream from goats now.    I can say that I am much healthier now on zc focusing on meat and fat than I was when I practically lived on Kefir, my own raw yogurt and milk.  I think it may have been that I almost always used the whey, which is where the lactose is.  Either in the yogurt or Kefir.  The Lactose gets converted into an acid during the culturing process.  That may have been hard on my system, at least from the amounts I was using. I found out after many trials that I did better diluting my kefir with milk, so that it tasted like cream.  ( You can determine how acidic or long you culture yorgurts or kefir.)   It may have been better to have made cheeses, thus diminishing the amount of whey/lactic acid consumed. 

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General Discussion / Re: Salted meat and scurvy
« on: November 25, 2009, 11:45:30 pm »
Hey Michael,  not to sound like a worry wart, but I have doubts about vacuum sealed bags.  Unfortunately I get most all my meat in them, but I do rinse and scape the outside of the meat with a knife.  This may sound obsessive, but the bags without the meat do smell.  They are designed to seal properly, and hold a vacuum. This makes me question that in the chemical engineering of the plastic, that some shortcomings may result in their ability to be plastic safe for humans.  I haven't researched the plastic myself, but since everything I eat comes in contact with them,  I am more comfortable with playing safe by at least minimizing the exposure to possible leaching chemicals.       After I rinse meat with warm water while gently rubbing it,  I then put it in the fridge on a stainless steel wire rack to dry.  In a couple of hours you'd never know it had been washed. 

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General Discussion / Re: Ori Hofmekler
« on: November 25, 2009, 07:24:55 pm »
  Not that AV is getting strictly grass fed eggs, probably quite the contrary, but I think you should discount your failed results on the egg fast until you were to try all grass fed eggs.  I can't stress enough what the difference is with my chickens, and my years experimenting with my goats and their goat milk when fed grains, and not fed grains and being on a strict diet of green pasture.  I am a firm believer that grain comes through in some form into their milk, and with chickens, their eggs. I am sure some would say 'rubbish', but I say let them have the direct experience before they make up their minds.   

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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: November 25, 2009, 04:41:22 am »
  I forget Lex,  do you supplement with D3, besides your new sun tan regime?

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General Discussion / Re: Testicles
« on: November 25, 2009, 04:36:45 am »
  Hi, try Northstar  Bison.  You can google the name.  they have everything but back fat.  It's where I get 90 percent of my food right now.  Some of the best meat in the world, for their bison live on pristine green fields of grass, at least right now, before the snow comes.    Plus their shipping is so reasonable.

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