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Hot Topics / Re: Sous vide: recognition of dangers of high-heat cooking?
« on: December 14, 2009, 10:14:17 am »
Seems that it's more about making the meat tender, since recommends to 'sear' the outside which makes it just like a roast dinner.

When I was eating alot of cooked meat I thought it would be healthier to cook with water than dry heat. I would boil beef steaks for 10 - 20 seconds or steam chicken and lamb to cooked completely through with some green vegetables and herbs. I thought it tasted fine without needing to being browned.

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General Discussion / Re: vitamin C in dried meat
« on: December 13, 2009, 12:03:27 pm »
I tried accutane in the past, though it failed (in hindsight it's fortunate that it did or I probably would have never found this way of eating). I did clear acne with this diet and the scars are incredibly better since starting. I eat plenty of red meat and Dr Ron's liver capsules so I am getting plenty of zinc and vitamin A which has clearly been extremely beneficial. I still have sun damage though rough skin, freckle spots which improved but perhaps vitamin C might speed up skin healing along with the other vitamins I now am getting. Damage might be too deep and needs lasers or something. I know that vitamin C is used in skin ointments and said to make you less prone to sunburn. Whether its true or not I am not sure but interesting to test.

Sometimes my gums bleed when I am stressed. The adrenals contain vitamin C and excrete vitamin C as part of the stress response. This is why I was looking to get some adrenals for the vitamin C + heal the adrenals from any burnout they probably have. Hard to get fresh grass fed organs in any substantial quantity though, so can only use the dried supplements for the moment.

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General Discussion / Re: vitamin C in dried meat
« on: December 13, 2009, 09:50:05 am »
So you want to eat vitamin C every day? What is the skin issue?

Yeah?

And I have sun damaged skin and acne scars

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General Discussion / Re: vitamin C in dried meat
« on: December 13, 2009, 08:12:48 am »
The trade-off is it adds a lot more sugar than a lime. Pick your poison and how it sits in you.
I've got to admit though; I'd enjoy eating a daily kiwifruit much more than sucking on a lime for the C.
I wouldn't do it though when living in the US; the distance to ship the thing is way beyond a conscionable range IMO. I'd grow and eat some blueberries most of the year. :)

according to nurtiondata.com 30 calories of lime has 29.1g vitamin c, while 30 calories of kiwifruit has 36.9g vitamin c. All the calories for both lime and kiwifruit is sugars, so it seems kiwifruit can actually provide more vitamin c with less sugar

Good point about the shipping though. I don't like to eat berries. I really don't like eating any fruit with skins (the skins would be pretty impossible to remove on berries).


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General Discussion / Re: vitamin C in dried meat
« on: December 13, 2009, 07:47:57 am »
I tend to think the extra vit c from the limes helps with gums, but who knows?   As far as rotting teeth,  I swallow the small amount directly, and rinse immediately.  Small chance.  Basically it's more of an insurance method.  Vit c deteriorates quickly, I imagine even in meats.  Since I don't kill and eat right away, I figure it can't hurt.

I don't think the vitamin C is the problem. The citric acid is. If it doesn't come into contact with your teeth, it comes into contact with your esophagus and intestines, and if it rots teeth, what will it do to them? Probably not much of a problem but still..

If you are eating a fruit for vitamin C I would eat one kiwifruit a day. Has more vitamin C than lemons I think and no citric acid.

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General Discussion / Re: vitamin C in dried meat
« on: December 13, 2009, 07:45:47 am »
A lot of ZCers don't eat raw organs and don't complain of vitamin C deficiencies. However, I do eat small amounts of raw organs and shellfish (in which the organs are consumed with everything else), so I can't address it from experience. Shellfish would be another option for you too.

I don't think I have deficiencies but getting some more might help, I know it is said to help damaged skin which I have. Shellfish are an option but not a consistent reliable source I can have each day I think.

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General Discussion / Re: vitamin C in dried meat
« on: December 13, 2009, 05:34:35 am »
I think Dr Ron's buffered vitamin c it is not actually very processed, just it has ALA added with it hence buffered.

I don't really have any signs of vitamin c deficiency, but I practically get none. I don't have access to fresh raw grass fed organs (or frequent access) and since vitamin c is found in them, I would like to get some.

I won't eat limes or lemons. They rot teeth.

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General Discussion / Re: vitamin C in dried meat
« on: December 12, 2009, 07:26:36 pm »
I think I might have to try it. I want to try getting more vitamin C and I can't get fresh adrenals and prefer to not eat fruit.

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General Discussion / Re: vitamin C in dried meat
« on: December 12, 2009, 06:18:28 pm »
do you think the buffered vitamin C is ok?

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General Discussion / Re: vitamin C in dried meat
« on: December 12, 2009, 04:42:25 pm »
Dr Ron also sells 'buffered vitamin C'. What is that exactly? What's the source?

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General Discussion / vitamin C in dried meat
« on: December 12, 2009, 04:38:51 pm »
I ordered some of Dr Ron's freeze dried adrenal glands one of the reasons being for the vitamin C in adrenal glands. The packages say it is equivalent to entirely raw food, but I am wondering about water soluble vitamins like vitamin C and the effect that removing water from the food would have on them. Ideas?

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Personals / Re: RAF Diet meetups
« on: December 12, 2009, 11:49:12 am »
I don't actually(this must be the 2nd or 3rd time someone's thought this to be the case). GS runs both rawpaleodiet.com and rawpaleoforum(I just own the rawpaleodiet yahoo group), though  I have  contributed some of the articles on rawpaleodiet.com.Perhaps GS should mention that he's the one in charge of rawpaleodiet.com.

oops did not know that...well thanks to GS for that. You post and contribute a lot to the forum which is why I thought you ran it plus people saying they found the website through the yahoo group.

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Personals / Re: RAF Diet meetups
« on: December 09, 2009, 06:55:32 pm »
You probably are a guru of some sort to most people in the RAF community, they may be wrong but most people don't think a guru must ask for money (most people think of that as a sham!). You are very knowledgeable, have read lots on the topic, help people by sharing a lot of information and of course run the website!

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General Discussion / Re: what for lunch for raw toddler?
« on: November 26, 2009, 08:02:12 pm »
do you have raw animal fats? It would be good to eat fat with the organs or steaks to not get too much protein.

Try to keep foods separate example fruits and juice in the morning, meat for lunch and dinner.


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General Discussion / Re: Ori Hofmekler
« on: November 26, 2009, 07:53:37 pm »
do you recall how much and how often you ate?  did you your bowels have to go through adjustment? did your body composition change at all?  mental sharpness?

sorry for all the questions... I've thought about trying something like that before, but 100% fat makes me feel nauseous so I didn't force it.

I just ate once a day, but no muscle meat that day, so probably ate 70% maintenance calories. I think a complete fast would be better. I felt like a fast but wanted to eat something to not lose weight. I have never eaten 100% fat for more than a day. Would like to try it though.

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General Discussion / Re: Ori Hofmekler
« on: November 26, 2009, 09:25:42 am »
I've fasted before eating nothing but suet. Eating any protein or carbohydrates breaks the fasted feeling, eating just fat keeps that 'fasted' state the most, probably because it effects blood sugar the least.

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General Discussion / Re: what for lunch for raw toddler?
« on: November 26, 2009, 09:19:25 am »
meat, fat and organs.

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General Discussion / Re: Ori Hofmekler
« on: November 22, 2009, 11:07:53 am »
I like the one meal a day, that's the fundamental part of the diet and I think he's right about that

I do not follow any of his other advice, I think it's poor. The diet as written is very bad for digestion. Eating an entire days worth of carbs and an entire days worth of protein at the same time will create flatulence like you have never experienced.

Ori also has a number of unsubstantiated claims. Firstly the whole calories don't matter claim, he says we can't eat red meat because of the bacteria in it and something about as soon as an animal is dead proteins mutate, thinks we are designed to be mainly vegetarian, believes animal fat is terrible and full of toxins (even grass fed and organic) and constantly pushes the idea that humans evolved to eat nuts and seeds as their main food.

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great post!! i do the same. my 2 and 1/2 yrs old toddler eats raw beef. i give him 1/4 lb lean muscle with 2 tsp of raw butter. i feed him that for his diner.

Sounds good. Some liver would be really good for him as well.

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Hot Topics / Re: Anti-raw paleo guy clip
« on: November 20, 2009, 12:34:00 pm »
Wow this guy is really something. Making it seem like it's unnatural to eat meat with complete ignorance. I read a comment on his website saying something like 'what toddler would choose to eat raw meat?'. Well just off the top of my head Inuit, American Indians, Australian Aborigines, African tribes and native northern Russians ate raw meat from birth. How many peoples have chose to eat nothing but fruit/vegetables? That's right - none.

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Hot Topics / Re: Anti-raw paleo guy clip
« on: November 19, 2009, 10:27:15 am »
So he eats 4000 calories per day and looks like a prisoner of war. Humans can't digest plants as effectively as meat, this is an obvious example.

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General Discussion / Re: Health & Climate
« on: November 17, 2009, 10:15:40 am »
Quote from: RawZi
   Which cold blooded animals?  Some cold blooded animals don't do well in cold climates and die.  Which ones are you thinking of?  Don't most cold blooded animals live in warm climates?  Do you mean fish?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090727191906.htm

which cold blooded animals are you thinking of?
They may die if the temperature is too cold for them to survive, but if it's tolerable than they live longer. Much longer.

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General Discussion / Re: Health & Climate
« on: November 17, 2009, 10:14:47 am »
Fair skin is an advantage where there is a less sunlight. Fair skin absorbs more vitamin D from the sun, so people with dark skin have a harder time getting necessary vitamin D in colder climates.

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General Discussion / Re: Health & Climate
« on: November 16, 2009, 07:45:37 am »
I think if anything a cold climate would make you live longer since it would slightly lower body temperature. In cold blooded animals where body temperature is not regulated much, the same animal living in cold climates can live 500% longer. In warm blooded animals like humans, the body temperature doesn't change as much with climate or death occurs, so effect no so drastic.

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General Discussion / Re: How to convince my parents raw paleo is okay?
« on: November 11, 2009, 09:17:31 am »
It's not possible. If they say 'you are going to die or become extremely sick you have to stop!' just politely reply 'I can understand why you think that' and go about your business.

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