google barefoot running.   I forget his name, but Dan something does long distance races all on the forefoot, as well as Charles in the zc forum, as well as myself.   A good place to get used to it is on a poured rubber track or at the beach if you have one or the other.  At first your calves get sore.  So stretch and strenghthen as you go. 

  I think I just had a good idea, and that is for the group of us to find a 'doctor' who we could trust to run various blood tests on us, and to form some sort of baseline or general understanding for those who eat like us...  I have been trying to contact Ron Rosedale MD for some time. But I think he's out of the country for a while.  Would welcome any ideas?   

  sometimes it's just much easier to not to try to convince them, adding fuel to their thoughts.  Changing the subject, reflecting back to them that you understand, suggesting after listening carefully to what they say that you will investigate further.   Basically buy yourself time.  Let their energies settle down, and allow them to witness over time that you are still with them, that you've haven't died, and indeed are doing quite well.   Make sure you are getting plenty of good fats.  Otherwise you might not do so well.

  After watching 'Food Inc.'  it's not hard to imagine how large corporations would push for everything to be cooked.  One,  that way they have a hand in a higher processed product, profit, and second that it would consolidate there practices, ie, spoilage, shipping, containers, marketing, advertising, etc., another 'stable' product on the shelf.    You really should check out the movie.  It really is sad.  At least that is how I felt watching it.  Sad especially for those who simply don't have enough information to make a choice, like the Latino family depicted with diabetes.  Good people, simply stuck in a rut.  And then there's all the myriad of low paid workers stuck in horrible jobs, treated like the animals that they process.     It's funny,  'we' use the phrase,  'acting like an animal'.   

Nicola,  don't know if you can get it where you live, but just watched 'Food Inc.'.    Most of Charles' followers eat the same kind of meat depicted in this movie.  Thus I still hold the idea that they may very well need to cook their meat to destroy the pathogens in the meat they are eating.  If you can get the movie,  pay attention to the scene where the processor is making hamburger, and where they bring in the cows to kill/process covered in their own feces, and notice the next steps.  Also the scene where they speak about and demonstrate the differences in the intestinal flora of a cows digestive system eating grass versus grains.   Charles wrote that he has been to a feed lot, yet purports that he heard that the cows are only there eating grain for a couple of weeks. That told me enough about whether or not he actually went to one.   Once you really look at the facts surrounding eating beef fattened in feed lots and the ramifications from that, you might have a better understanding of the confusion that exists between Charles' forum and this one. 

I think you may have written it incorrectly.  Raw whey, is where all the lactose is, = lots of carbs.  Whey protein powder that has the lactose removed, has little if any carb value.

  Children have a remarkable ability to intuitively know, by taste and smell, what it is their bodies need.  This is true if the food hasn't been adulterated, by cooking, blending, freezing, mixing with other foods, and I don't know if the mother pre-chewing would alter the intuitive input or not.  I have witnessed this process with great amazement. 

I gave up on butter when it gave me lumps on knee.  I wear an artificial leg.  I was using grass fed frozen raw butter from a farmer I researched and found in Wisconsin.  It was made at the height of his green grass growing season.  Since having experimented with frozen back fat, and subsequently noticing a sizable drop in energy over eating fresh back fat, I am inclined to think it may have been the frozen element in the butter that allowed something to coagulate into a lump, repeatedly, testing out the frozen butter.  I also since the 70's have developed similar lumps when trying to take oral mineral supplements.   Have you ever seen where they show video from a microscope of single blood cells getting bottlenecked running through a capillary.  MY theory is since I wasn't breast fed,  according to lit., I have more of a porous intestinal lining, allowing for larger particles to enter my system.    I would love to have your source for fresh butter, if grass fed.   I love the taste of it, especially eating it with meat. 

Tyler you might like to take a position of not needing to win a debate.  For this isn't a debate contest.   I go both ways.  But then the inuit had plenty of fat.  The plains indians could selectively kill older fat buffalo, and eat all the marrow, tongue, brains, kidney fat that they would have in every animal.  There weren't other sources of carbs out on the plains.  It is the indians living in the woods where buffalo didn't roam that I wonder about.  Deer, for instance usually don't have much fat on them.  But then again, there aren't too many carbs in the woods year around.  People do mention dried acorns and berries, and some roots.  But for roots, they had to be cooked.  So how did they exist before fire/cooking?

 fish oils are bound to be mostly all rancid.  Pufas turn very quickly.  So it could also be the damage oxidized fats are causing in the body.

You might try to get your butcher to split it length wise.   Now that I am heating my fat to 100f,  I have thought of heating the bone standing up in the pot.  It might,  (for sure the lower leg section will) melt out and simply collect it in it's liquid state. 

  HI,  I had to laugh about the green egg...  No,  I meant that the chickens eat green food all day along with bugs.  Pretty hard to find these days.    I have never put the yolk on my head/hair.     You may have hard water, which makes it hard to rinse all the baking soda out of the hair.  Yes,  having short hair is easier to wash and keep looking ok with baking soda.  It probably won't look as shiny as commercial shampoos and conditioners.  I use between a teaspoon and a tablespoon.  Try wetting hair real good, then take a teaspoon of bs and spread it out on your hands and then rub it into your hair.  The focus should be in getting it down to the scalp level.  you can take a little more water into your hands and apply that to your head.  Then gently work on your scalp, rubbing it into your scalp.  Let it sit for around five or ten minutes while you shower or whatever.  Then before rinsing it off, massage some more.   Bs has the ability to dissolve not only the oils but the crud in you scalp.  Then while massaging, rinse very well with just warm water.  Too warm, and you'll lose too much natural oils from your hair.  That is why  I have gone down to a teaspoon or table spoon.  Too much strips your natural oils.  I also brush my hair,  short hair, with a bristle brush twice a day.  YOu have to get down to the scalp and stimulate it along with exfoliating it with the bristles.  I also massage my scalp first thing in the morning with my finger tips before getting out of bed.  I think a lot of it is getting blood flowing/nutrients.    It's really not that hard to do once you've got it.  I use a tupper ware plastic container with lid for the bs.     It also is amazing to use it in replacing soap for your arm pits.  Let it sit in their for several minutes too.  Really works, hardly ever smell.  I haven' had atheletes foot, but am believing soaking feet in high concentrations of bs would chase it away.  Have you seen the Italian oncologist's work who treats cancer with bs.  He believes all cancers are clusters forms of cancer, and the the high ph of bs dissolves the micro clusters of cancer/fungus.     Let me know if anything needs further clarification.  I at one time was thinking about coming out with a hair loss shampoo based on bs, but realized it' far to easy to copy...