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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: poultry is heated
« on: November 10, 2009, 07:36:21 pm »
i've gotten chicken from two sources near me. one is great. definitely not heated. the other one was pretty horrible. you could tell the chicken had been heated beforehand and it tasted awful. the skin had a different texture and color too. the good chicken has nearly white skin that's still very elastic and slimy. i need to ask them how they de-feather. anyways, it's worth it to try and find a good source in my opinion.

My guess they are both heated. It is standard for poultry is put in boiling water to remove feathers whether organic, free range it does not matter.

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Health / Re: Considering dental health options: vitamins A, D3, K2
« on: November 10, 2009, 05:01:17 pm »
I take 6 of Dr Ron's Liver caps a day and it improved teeth and gums. Previously I just ate muscle meat.

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General Discussion / Re: pictures of grass fed meat and fat?
« on: November 04, 2009, 04:20:11 pm »
Grassfed suet is more yellow than grainfed in my experience. Lex has also noted this. If you melt it you can see the yellow more easily. Grassfed also has less connective-type material (it's like sticky netting) and more pure fat.

I get grassfed fat and it has some of that sticky netting. I think that depends on the location where the fat comes from.

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General Discussion / Re: pictures of grass fed meat and fat?
« on: November 03, 2009, 10:17:21 am »
the fat on gass fed meat can be white or yellow. Older animals tend to have yellower fat. Grass fed suet is pretty much always white in my experience.

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Off Topic / Re: Cooked High-Fat Diets May Cause Azlheimer's
« on: October 22, 2009, 08:17:41 am »
what was the fat source? Definitely not cooked grass fed beef fat. Likely soy bean oil or some rubbish. Bogus, propaganda study.

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Health / Re: bowel movements
« on: October 20, 2009, 03:06:45 pm »
Yet, my own personal observation is that going raw ZC made my stools much harder and compact  not more softer/liquid. Also, there's a difference between wolves' digestive systems, I believe human's digestive systems are longer?

humans is apparently shorter than a dogs not sure about a wolves. Colon is an inactive part of digestion in both canine and human though, and since that's where the difference in length is the digestion system is virtually identical.

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Aajonus has a different perspective on which cooked foods are the most unhealthy than what we usually see here.

haha i.e. what Tyler says ;)

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General Discussion / Re: Eating non-organic/factory raised meat?
« on: October 16, 2009, 11:10:10 am »
I've never been sick eating factory farm beef or lamb raw and the taste is still pretty good. I would avoid chicken though. I ate some raw chicken and had huge amounts of mucus for a week. It also does not taste good.

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General Discussion / Re: underweight
« on: October 11, 2009, 06:15:26 pm »
Don't need carbs just more calories than you expend. Up the fat content and keep protein the same. Fat is the best macronutrient for gaining weight, you probably just need to get used to eating lots of it.

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Journals / Re: PaleoPhil's Journal
« on: October 09, 2009, 12:28:54 pm »
I found I was really thirsty after eating if I was eating too much protein and not enough fat. 80% fat = no thirst.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Eating Roadkill...
« on: October 08, 2009, 06:59:32 pm »
Good link, I'll post it.

As far as wild animals are concerned, I routinely eat raw wild game that's been recently shot by hunters, without parasite issues. I still find shotgun pellets in the corpse when I start eating it.

wow that's pretty nice. It still has the pellet in it?! Do you get like the entire animal before it's butchered?

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Health / Re: Cravings
« on: October 08, 2009, 06:57:22 pm »
Any tips on how to fight these craving?

willpower

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General Discussion / Re: Acne and Paleo Diet
« on: October 08, 2009, 11:42:05 am »
That was pretty much my story. I first developed mild acne in my senior year in high school. It became worse over the next few years until it was cystic acne that was frequently rather painful. The dermatologists had me take antibiotics like tetracycline and erythromycin, topical treatments like retin-A, and eventually a round of Accutane. None of it did the job. The Accutane was the only thing that cleared most of the acne, but only while I was taking it. The day after I stopped taking it the acne started coming back. My acne greatly improved when I cut dairy and gluten out of my diet--especially the gluten--but the zits didn't clear up completely until age 45 when I adopted a mostly-raw carnivorous diet. Now I only get them if I eat any more than a smidgeon of carbs or go too long without showering, and even then I just get a couple tiny, painless ones, like when I first started breaking out.

glad to hear you found something that works after medicines failed. At it's peak my acne covered me from waist upwards, worst on the back and shoulder and blood all over shirts constantly. Looked like leprosy, 50 lesions, some reaching over an inch in diameter. Years of depression with skin permanently scarred but now I don't really give a damn because I don't care about what anyone thinks of me, just moving foward.

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General Discussion / Re: Acne and Paleo Diet
« on: October 07, 2009, 09:09:06 am »
Had severe cystic acne for multiple years that persisted even after a course of accutane. Vanished on raw zero carb.

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Hot Topics / Re: The Avg Lifespan / Life Expectancy Canard
« on: October 05, 2009, 07:19:50 am »
Another pint, bone remains of paleolithic people resemble today's 30 year olds, hence people thought paleo people died at 30, yet they actually died at old age with the bones looking like those of today's 30 year olds because of lack of degeneration. The idea was discussed here before.

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General Discussion / Re: When sick
« on: October 03, 2009, 07:57:24 am »
Perhaps zero carb requires one to readjust to carbs but even then no one can completely digest carbs properly. Whether they know it or not, everyone has at least some trouble with carbs - hence farting and foul smelling stools being considered 100% normal.

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General Discussion / Re: Aajonus Vonderplanitz on the doctors
« on: October 02, 2009, 01:33:05 pm »
I just don't get wtf they're talking about, he's standing there eating that stuff and they're talking about risks. Certainly begs the question.

IMO the reason he's on the show to be made fun of.

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General Discussion / Re: Aajonus Vonderplanitz on the doctors
« on: October 02, 2009, 01:20:40 pm »
I posted that. The thing about hairloss is that it shows itself much more easily than other health problems, and once it starts it's extremely hard to stop via diet - following a healthy diet from birth is really needed to have best protection since the damage is cumulative, you don't lose all your hair overnight, whereas other problems don't become evident until they have developed extensively.

The diet of teenagers that causes acne also weakens the hair follices (DHT, sebum and inflammation in the sebacious skin gland causes acne, while in the hair follice these same things causes hairloss).  Hair grows back but after x nuimber of hair cycles grow back weaker and thinner. Thinning hair doesn't mean he is necessarily sick - just aging and getting old. He eats a lot of dairy too, the pasteurized product is particularly bad for these conditions, likely the raw as well.

I had terrible acne and rapid early onset balding before starting this diet, acne cleared right up and hairloss slowed down but no regrowth to speak off after a few months. Aajonus probably was thinning well before he started this diet, and the best diet could for him was slow down the loss, maybe he'd be a cueball otherwise?

If you are willing to take drugs in combination with diet you could more than likely keep all your hair. Either one separately might not keep all your hair depending on your genetic predisposition, but will at least slow down hairloss.  

(IMO raw paleo (preferably zero carb) combined with fasting + calorie restriction will prevent hairloss from happening/stop more loss once it happens, high calorie raw paleo only to slow loss once it's started...if started at birth good chance to prevent)

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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: September 25, 2009, 03:57:52 pm »
One person occasionally even asks me what the causes are of her health problems, and the solutions, but she doesn't really mean it, because if I start talking about possible solutions she just gets angry. I think that she too just wants to be consoled.

Absolutely agree. Many people I think they don't want the solution to their health problems to be so simple. Food is entertainment, it's social etc. Some people will not give these up for anything.

I also think it's possible people feel offended when discussing that their ill-health may be diet related, as if it is implying they brought this poor health upon themselves. They like to complain about it, but like to be told there is nothing that can be done and there was nothing that could had prevented it - they just had bad luck.

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Display Your Culinary Creations / Re: How to Open Live Oysters
« on: September 25, 2009, 03:36:23 pm »
nice Queen playing in the background

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Hot Topics / Re: Weston-Price conspiracy poll
« on: September 25, 2009, 02:08:41 pm »
I don't see how caloric restriction can benefit the body in ways other than speeding up the removal of toxins.

I gave my opinion before. It's like a car. Drive it less, it last's longer. I really think it is that simple, though still there is much debate.

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For one thing, caloric restriction is very harmful in and of itself, with people doing long-term serious caloric restriction suffering from severe muscle-weakness/issues and general fatigue/ill-health , which would not help prolong lifespan in and of itself, quite the contrary. For example, lifespan/aging has been directly correlated to the extent of muscle in the body(in other words, the more developed the muscles are through exercise, the lower the risk re mortality). So, IMO, the issue re lowering AGEs and other heat-created toxins seems more relevant than the claimed more efficient use of nutrients.

That's really not true. CR reduces muscle breakdown. Muscle mass of course initially decreases due to lack of calories, but CR consistently results in less age related muscle atrophy and more muscle mitochondrial with CR conserving skeletal muscle fibre due to aging.

http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/2CA3E.htm
http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/reprint/18/3/580.pdf
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0040076

Here is one showing the CR mimicking effect of LC where some beneficial muscle effects of CR are more profound if the diet is CR but also LC
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2009/05/04/49107.aspx

Personally I don't like finding positive things about Calorie Restriction, because I don't want to look that skinny! But unfortunately (?) it does seem to be an additional bonus to the types of food you eat.

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General Discussion / Re: mTOR and protein threshold
« on: September 22, 2009, 09:06:11 pm »
Tyler what do you estimate the fat percentage of a Lion's diet is.

Doesn't matter if a wild animal is more lean. Hunters ate what they wanted, even if it meant killing more animals and throwing away the lean. Australian Aboriginies ate extremely high fat eating kangaroos which are lean relative to other mammals. They chose the fattiest and discarded the lean.

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Hot Topics / Re: Weston-Price conspiracy poll
« on: September 22, 2009, 11:01:00 am »
Just google online for scientific studies which focus on "low AGE diets". There are several which show that reducing AGE-levels improves symptoms and scientists do seem to acknowledge that caloric restriction(which is effectively the same as "eating less cooked food" given the study's focus on a cooked diet) lowers AGE-levels(eg:-

http://content.karger.com/produktedb/produkte.asp?typ=fulltext&file=000217817

)

Granted no study has yet compared raw+ caloric restriction with cooked+caloric restriction etc.

No doubt there are some overlapping benefits, but reducing AGEs is not the reason calorie restriction works. No one is totally sure how it works but in my opinion it's not from reducing toxins or chemicals from external sources but rather the benefits are derived from the body itself simply running slower - living in slow motion. As raw kyle said the body eventually breaks down regardless of what you eat or what you do. The body doesn't need any external chemicals or toxins to suffer damage. Normal metabolism ages the body in not fully understood ways. I think that the choice of food can reduce the amount of damage metabolic process has on the body but simply not possible to stop all damage (aging).

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General Discussion / Re: mTOR and protein threshold
« on: September 22, 2009, 10:43:37 am »
As for the protein issue, I have to admit to a great deal of skepticism re this. I mean tribes in the wild didn't artificially measure their protein-intake and given that in those Palaeo days fat-intake would have been significantly lower than today(ie no very fatty grainfed meat available pre-agriculture), their protein-intake would have presumably been  higher than the very low figures the  current protein-limit-theories mention.

That's a silly thing to say. They had access to the entire animal. Their fat intake was beyond doubt higher. The only meat available in supermarkets is the separated lean muscle tissue. Inuit ate ~80% fat through instinct, and so would of native American eating wild bison. I'm eating more fat now eating only grass fed meat

Article provides interesting points.

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General Discussion / Re: Tell me about Suet
« on: September 22, 2009, 10:35:45 am »
suet is the raw fat from red meat

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