I don't know all his details, so I can't tell you.

Well, there's a claim in this thread that he has been a 100% raw vegan for 18+ years and there's a court report that says he claimed to eat fish. They can't both be right.
Wow! So all the others are that bad or worse?

    Maybe he started with fish.  I haven't had anything to do with him in a couple of years, besides posting at GI2MR that he is ok, and because I eat raw meat, vegans/vegetarians there decided to tear him apart.

    Yes, there are worse fasting supervisors.  

Chlorine vapors are chloroform.

I used to get ear infections once a month when I was a swimmer, naively thinking it was because the pool wasn't properly treated. Actually it was because it was overtreated. Nowdays I'd rather drink municipal tap water than swim in a pool.

    I could never stand public pools that use lots of chlorine and chlorinated showers.  My breathing passages and eyes always bothered me in those situations.  I don't like drinking tap-water either.  Not sure, I guess I'd agree, drinking is not as bad as breathing it.

But what happens if you dont get the polio vaccine and you get polio???

    If you're healthy and on a real diet, it's usually like a mild cold you don't even notice, and then it's gone and you're the same as before.  That's what I read many places.

Polio is a detox of the spine, usually due to heavy metal poisoning from vaccines, canned food or food cocked in metal utensils.

    Or wet food that sat on metal for hours.

It's interesting too that the court report says that Loren allowed fish in his diet. So he hasn't gone 18+ years as a 100% raw vegan. I've never seen him posting about the benefits of fish. Wild fish is one of the more common elements among many of the healthiest nations and peoples in the world.

    I never heard, read or knew anything about fish with him.  Is the court report correct?  Could he have said he ate fish so that the court would think he's "normal".  I don't think he's a liar.  I don't know why it said he eats fish.  Did they hold him and he was hungry and maybe fish was what he chose between that and hotdogs?  That happened one time to me about a year into veganism.  My Dad took me hundreds of miles away from everything but hot dogs and a lake.  After a week of only water, I ate a fish.  Then he took me back and I went back vegan.    

RawZi, did you know Loren fled the US and relocated to Panama after one of his patient died under his care?

http://www.quackwatch.org/02ConsumerProtection/tanglewood.html

    Yes, I know he relocated to Panama.  I know a woman died in hospital at the end of fasting at his center.  This is cause for alarm, in addition to his protein-less unhealthy diet and words.  I don't believe this makes him any worse than any other fasting supervisor.  I've encountered worse ones.  The difference with him I think is that he has a bigger heart than them.  He allows sicker people in, so there is more life and death chance involved, but she may have died anyway.  

    Does it say there that she was sneaking insulin injections in at the end of her life?  No disrespect meant toward her.  She was a human life.  No one should die young.  I really don't know what happened.

    What cooked foods did someone say he eats?  When did they say it?  Did they say what time he ate it?  He started out as a cooked food eater, a very sick one.  He has not been raw all his life. 

    He definitely drinks milk.  Almost every time I've been anywhere near him he had a container of milk he was drinking in his hand.  I think it's not straight, but has an egg mixed in. 

    Funny, I've escorted cancer patients to oncology appointments.  These doctors tell the patients that during treatment they should drink lots of milkshakes (with egg).  They give them recipe books, but everything is heated!  Maybe a leftover from a hundred years ago treating cancer with RAF?  These doctors say there is proof that high antioxidant food preVENTS cancer, but no proof that it helps cure it, so put on weight with these milkshakes!

half an onion, a lil bit of cauliflower, cucumber and cherry tomatoes - I did notice that it seems like the food stays longer in my stomach that way. I might just eat fruit in the morning and only meat later.

    I don't like tomatoes with meat.  I haven't tried cauliflower with (raw) meat.  Maybe I'll try that sometime.  PM me a recipe if you have one, or put it on a non-rawzc thread.  Thanks!

   Home made freshly cultured grassfed kefir may work better than dried warmed strained meat product.

    William, can you make this kefir?

    See my latest entry on my posts.  I see (now) this is in totally meat topic.  Sorry.  I'm not into pemmican, but if you like it, I don't like telling people to eat what they dislike.

What carbs (fruits, honey ?) do you eat with meat ?
I don't think it's a good idea to mix carbs and meat.

    When I add a little unheated honey to raw meat, I usually digest it better.

If you freeze the dates,  you stop the worms from growing.  They are more like meal worms.

    Oo my hamsters love catching live meal worms.  Maybe they'll like dates too.  Are dates ok to freeze because of already low water content?  I never knew anyone ever froze a date.  I wish the name wasn't confusing written and we use pictographs.

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I really don't appreciate being argued with on the basic points of this diet. It is my assumption that anyone who comes here should already be in agreement that raw foods and animal products are important.  If not, they had better be extra, extra, EXTRA respectful and gentle, and back up everything they say. If not, I lose patience.

    I know people follow patterns.  I looked up si and found him presently harassing a raw fruitarianer's forum with his beer belly, take-away fried foods etc.  I sent it to Miles.  Miles apologized.  That's over.  I didn't want to bore this forum with the endless non-sense posting of si, so I did it quiet.

    I appreciate your no-nonsense way.  I have a forum of my own.  I've only banned one person.  I hate banning people.  There are about a dozen more I might benefit my forum very well to ban.  I have thought of inviting you there to be a moderator, beCAUSE you don't hesitate much to ban.

soft bone marrow, or back fat works well, just rub it in your hands till soft and then rub it in where you want.  Sometimes, I will add lemon juice on top for scent, depending on whom I am with.

    How do you clean it off later or does it all absorb in?