Well, there is increasing evidence to indicate that the major benefit of fasting isn't so much re caloric restriction but mainly the fact that NOT eating cooked foods greatly lowers the levels of heat-created toxins in the human body(as it allows the body extra time to get rid of previous loads of such toxins).

I really have no idea where your claims come from. Despite reading all the information I have come across I have not found a study comparing calorie restricted cooked and raw diets with non calorie restricted raw and cooked diets? The research at the moment is all about calories and nothing but calories really

I do though somewhat agree with the claim. The body works in a strange way, and I feel that calories from raw foods don't stimulate the production of aging hormones and chemicals like insulin and leptin as much as cooked foods - but I don't have anything to solidly prove this.

fasting doesn't by itself really label all foods as unhealthy, merely an excess of foods.

Now we must define 'excess'. If we can live without it is it excess?  

I should have complained when I got the meat I was referring to, but I'm not that kind of person. If it kept happening I would just stop ordering it. But as best as I can remember there were some packages that smelled and tasted off, in a way that isn't readily comparable except for the gameyness reference.

Is all the meat you got that way, or just some?

Hmm...only been eating it for 3 days so not sure

perhaps try fruits like bananas, watermelon etc that have a covering so minimize exposure to chemicals. I don't do well eating the skins of fruit anyway even the edible ones like berries or apples.

the thing is I don't like the taste, yet it doesn't taste like 'bad' meat as if it's grain fed or something. It just tastes different. It may just be a taste I'm not used to. I'll eat it for a week or so and see if I get used to and maybe even enjoy the taste.

Yup, but I try to get local venison and bison, because I like them better than beef. Sometimes the bison doesn't taste all that great to me too, but the venison always tastes very good.

yeah that's the thing...this is grass fed beef. I always eat grass fed beef and always like it, but this beef is tasting strange.

ok the meat i'm eating at the moment doesn't taste good...yet it is entirely grass fed. What gives? and do you just eat it anyway?

This is highly speculative and rather ignores an obvious fact, that accumulation of AGEs and other heat-created toxins (mostly resulting from cooked animal foods)does far more damage to the DNA thus greatly accelerating aging.And I'm highly amused that so far no scientific study has ever once actually shown cooked low-carbers as living longer - quite the opposite, of course, as study after study

(eg:-  http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/vegetarians-live-longer.html  )

 shows vegetarians living the longest(as regards all other cooked-dieters), and that's not counting the innumerable studies showing a higher mortality-rate for those who incorporate more cooked animal foods into their diet.

No people in ketosis were in the study.

Lifespan is not a good enough criteria of good health for human. Lifespan is influenced by several factors, not only by diet. Vegetarian tend more to avoid unhealthy lifestyle (cigarettes, alcohol, pollution, etc.) and take more care of themselves.

Caloric restriction is a good way to increase lifespan. Maybe vegetarian eat less calories than others, with all that fibers and veggies in their low fat diet.

Anyway, do you have any links on these studies ?

there aren't any studies directly relevant to this topic. All comparative studies are done comparing vegetarians with SAD. Everything I have read from Tyler on this topic is always about loosely controlled observational studies on people eating typical western diets.

No studies are done about the lifespan of low carbers because people haven't been doing it long enough mainstream wise. All we do know is that low carb even when cooked lowers insulin, metabolism, blood sugar and thyroid which are all signs of longer lifespan.

and then there's grades you gotta worry about

IF and calorie restriction are catabolic diets so it makes sense that catabolic hormones such as cortisol would rise while anabolic hormones such as insulin fall. Over the long term once weight stabilizes it would make sense if cortisol would then fall below baseline though.

perhaps due to compromised digestion from previous diets, despite meat containing all the needed nutrients some people can only assimilate a percentage of the nutrients in their food so might lack in the nutrients meat has in adequate - yet small amounts.

If that person's blog bothered me then I would sought out my life's priorities. There is no need to feel an allegiance to a raw diet. I don't consider myself the 'raw crowd'. My diet doesn't define me. In my opinion, diet should just be instinctive - the less you think about diet the better. It's beneficial to visit forums like this to read about people's experience on the diet (such as this excellent thread by lex) and learn new information, food sources etc but to engage in completely pointless arguments over really irrelevant comments is not productive. I've got a job with work, friends to talk to, women to chase, music to listen to, and my health to maintain...who cares what this man writes. I read his blog, I disagreed, gave a quick comment and moved on.