Could that incident be unquestionably due to the coconut water or is there the possibility that something else may also have been involved?  Was it the Martin's brand with the bacteria removed?  I could understand that - if not stored under the correct conditions during transit - the lack of 'good' bacteria as well as 'bad' may predispose the water to potential contamination.

    Thank you.  There was something wrong with the coconut water when it arrived.  It was not Martin's.  It was packed well, made in small batches, shipped overnight, shipped out just after being made etc etc.  I believe there was pathogenic contamination and their body couldn't handle foreign microorganisms well. 

Shipping it around the country isn't ideal, of course, but many of us could say that about a large proportion of the raw foods we consume.  Certainly, I have all of my grass-fed meat products delivered by courier.

    From my experience, plant products, especially liquid, are not as stable as animal products.  I have bought raw organic coconut water ijn the mail several times.  One of the times it made someone very sick who drank it.  No doctor was involved, and they did recover fully from the coconut water reaction, but I would be careful of using shipped raw coconut water for a person who is weak to begin with.  Maybe for us it would be fine.  We eat RAF.  We are stronger. 

But, wouldn't they use it to make jerky for later consumption (perhaps as pemmican) when fat or carbs were again available?

  They could have made their famous high meat with it too?  Or fed it to sled dogs? 

    Do some dogs not need as much fat?  I have two cats.  One cat always intentional turns away from fat, the other loves fat and gobbles it up.  Maybe there are eating differences in one individual to the next in malamutes/huskies.

I'm more sensitive to chemicals than I am foods though.  Creosote, paint fumes, exhaust fumes, bleach etc all feel like they're poisoning my body and that I'd collapse in a heap if I didn't have the option to flee quickly!

... I'm glad to say that I can still enjoy flowers and nature too!  I'm sorry to hear of your changes with this.  If anything, I feel that I can appreciate natures wonders even more!

    Thank you Michael.  It's ok.  Flowers just smell kind of like detergent to me.  Not bad, just not great.  I still like other natural smells though, grass, herbs, rain, fruit actually even more than before, and animal smells now.  I really disliked most animal smells before, but now natural animal smells don't bother me at all!  Bleach and gasoline also bother me, but they always did, and not as much now.

Is it a berry?

There are plenty of studies online re the benefits of taurine supp-lementation, such as found here:-

http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/supplements-reviews/taurine-supplement-information.htm

Do not assume however that they work in all cases. For example, I had numerous nutritional deficiencies pre-rawpalaeo and supplemented heavily but I just p*ssed them out in myt urine and they didn't help me(of course, I had glandular-related issues which might have prevented absorption or some such)

    Yes, I don't assume that.  The person I'm asking for does get some seizures.  Also, the link you provides states:

Taurine is high in eggs, dairy products, meats and fish proteins.

    While many other sites state that taurine is low in cow milk:

Taurine, an amino acid derivative found in meat and other animal foods (except for milk and milk products), appears to shield the heart from harm. It's best known for empowering bile acids to clear cholesterol from the body. It may also fight cellular troublemakers that can damage the heart. Studies in animals suggest that taurine lowers blood pressure as well--yet another heart-healthy property. Although research has produced conflicting results, taurine may also benefit vision disorders, epilepsy

"DEFICIENCY SIGNS: Deficiency in Vitamins A, E, and D increases Taurine excretion; epilepsy (low Taurine, high Glycine), 50% of epileptics may void Taurine supplements in their urine; heart disease; slowed growth, biochemical aging process; mother's milk is rich in Taurine, formulas and cows milk are not and may be causing infant abnormalities.

    So I'm not so sure about what it reads.  Apparently it works better for you in food form, and I'm thinking it likely may be similar for this person.  They eat all raw food.  I just discussed it with them now, and looks like they may be willing to try goat or sheep milk.

Goat milk contained nearly 3 times higher concentrations of free amino acids than cow milk, and nearly two thirds the level in human milk.  Only goat and breast milk contained naturally high levels of taurine.   

What are the benefits of goat milk?

Goat milk has natural bioactive factors such as nucleotides, taurine and polyamine which help to build up the immune system.

    They do have some supplemental taurine, I think it is by NOW.  I'm wondering if it will work as well as food for them, or even if using a synthetic form might put any burden on the body of a sick person?  Also, what the source of supplemental taurine is.  Can it be fabricated out of nothing in a laboratory?  If so, they will be happy with this, especially as raw goat milk may be difficult to come by regularly, for someone not owning nor living near goats, and sick.

The Vet said weeks to months for Goopy my Cat. He's pretty much acting alright, right now. It's just difficult.

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Best wishes everyone 

    I hope everything went best with your cat and you.

The reason why modern cats can survive(albeit with il-health) long enough to reproduce further generations is only because processed-cat-food-suppliers deliberately supplement their cat-feeds with artificial doses of taurine - if they didn't, the cats would get taurine-deficiency, much like they did in Pottenger's Experiments, with the inevitable results.

RAW fat over cooked fat being one of them.  Of course in a raw paleo forum it will be natural to encounter people who have experienced and read studies that convinced them that raw paleo is the way to go... that raw fat is the way to go.

The only thing I can see in all these arguments so far is that those who are pushing cooked fat only do so because they have the opinion cooked fats taste better (because of the condiments and the cooking they are used to).

I have yet to see someone push that cooked fat is BETTER -HEALTHIER than raw fat.

In my opinion, cooked fat will always be inferior because:

- molecular structure has changed because of cooking
- condiments are not necessarily beneficial and may in fact be harmful sometimes
- most cooking introduces pollutants from the flame, from the wood, from the gas / fuel, from the cooking pot / utensils, from the method of cooking... some cooking styles are more harmful than others...

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...  In my case, I just want to live, and so far raw everything / raw paleo including raw fats has been working best for me.  Now I can see a future for myself... instead of death at 40... maybe a good strong healthy life at 120.

    Interestingly enough, from what I've been googling all evening,  taurine helps us with fats, gall bladder, brain connections and choline.

Your reaction to gases released from foods could have a very real basis.  ...  I suspect all such problems are rooted in liver dysfunction and a problem with one/some of the detoxification pathways.  Eventually, one would hope an appropriate RAF diet would resolve this.

... toxic loads in our environment, air, foods, water.  This is relentless and there are limitations to the methods we can employ to reduce this.  ...  Focus on building yourself a strong body using nourishing foods that is capable of protecting you from this bombardment.

    The smell of bread toasting smells like something burning, to my nose.  The smell of brewing coffee has apparently given me the runs.  The smell of walking down the soap isle in the supermarket makes the inside of my nose itch.  Lots of smells can get to me, people smoking near can get my eyes tearing, and onions way worse.  Sure these things might affect us somehow.  I do know that way less if anything affects me if I am eating RAF.  My one small regret sense-wise: flowers don't smell as appealing to me as they once were.  One thing about diseased people in my midst: their disease smell is more tolerable to my nose, when I myself am feeling more balanced health-wise.     

All the sushi I buy generally comes with rice.

    Some restaurants over here have a buffet.  I got one recently.  I took the rice off.  I don't like wasting, but it's their fault for not serving sashimi.

hi rawzi, the main thing to get the wrinkle free skin is to have a tress free life, than diet. people think that i go to highschool  or so. they never can guess my age. my goal is to stay young even when i'll be a grandma.

    I have stress.  Health is more complicated.  One of the things was my thyroid I think.  I got a couple grays as a preteen and skin would burn deeply incredibly fast if in sun at all and my skin noticeably thinned.  In early thirties I got a bunch of grays and had a malar rash.  RAF did get rid of the grays and made the hairs in my hairline childlike again, my skin hasn't burnt since and my skin feels somewhat childlike (real moisture, bouncy).  If RAF makes a stress free life, that's my answer.  For me health is more multidimensional in other ways too.

tonight i had WF open a dozen local wild oysters.  they gave me them in a container of seawater.  when i got it home, i swished the bits of shell off the oysters into the seawater as i took them out.  then i poured the seawater through a fine strainer.  i took the strained seawater and put it in the blender. 

i diced a little local pasture goat liver into the blender. 

i diced a little buffalo into the blender. 

i diced a little local pasture raw stew lamb into the blender. 

i added a pasture egg yolk.  blended. 

voila la!  soup for a carnivore.  it tasted good. 
note:  cut the meat very fine.  the texture tended to be a bit weird.

I use the dark leafy greens - mostly kale, spinach, parsley, arugula - they are readily available. I usually juice them, I don't really like "salads." I love the taste of green juice! Maybe that will return for you, Rawzi. I also eat seaweed.

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GoodSamaritan: What do you classify as a hydrating fruit? High-enzyme, like papaya, pineapple?

    I have found papaya to be lubricating, lemon too.

    I like kale juice while vegetarian.  Otherwise I really can't stand it.  The only cruciferous vegetable I can stand right now is a little raw cabbage.  I knew I ate a few other greens today/last night, one of the others was seaweed.  Thank you for reminding me, albeit inadvertantly.