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« on: July 12, 2016, 06:06:01 pm »
It seems there is not a universal diet for everyone, search online for metabolic type tests. Dr. Mercola provides a free one on his site that reminded me about the raw paleo diet and this forum which is why I'm back here.
I was eating mostly sprouts that I grew myself from organic seed and fruit, based on the greensmoothie lady's website but I was always bloated, putting on weight dramatically, always eating because I was always hungry no matter how much fruit or nuts I ate. I tested as a protein metabolic type on Dr. Mercola's metabolic quiz on his website, protein types need a lot of fat in our diet. I found the metabolic testing researching diabetes because I developed a sweet taste in my mouth that did not go away. I got back on raw meat right away, and my cravings went away.
I usually skip breakfast, eat a pound of raw ground beef lightly salted and warmed in warm water (i don't have access to fresh meat, mine comes frozen in a vacuum packed plastic bag which I thaw in cold water then switch to hot/warm water to warm it through before I open the bag) because it tastes better warm than cold and a pound of my sprouts covered in extra virgin organic cold pressed olive oil, raw garlic, and lightly salted for lunch. For dinner I have some raw egg yolks or hard cheese and another pound of sprouts. Just got started doing this again a couple of days ago and already the sweet taste in my mouth seems to be going away. My bloated stomach is flattening out, gas all but totally gone, cravings gone. I stay completely satisfied all day. I need to get some more organ meat back in my diet but I've only been back to raw paleo a few days and I know most won't eat concentrated oils but this is where I am now, and right now I'm feeling much better.
I'll keep you posted.
The purpose for replying to this thread was to state that we have a range of metabolic types from protein based to carb based and a mixture of the two based on our heredity. I have more indigenous background that doesn't do so well on carbs, but I thrive on raw meat. You may just be the opposite. I think we all need chlorophyll and phytonutrients found in plants mostly wild plants leaves. Any plant that is not poisonous has medicinal value...add that to a raw meat diet for us protein types or the starchy carbohydrate types and I think you have a real winner of a healthy eatting plan. I think we all should be careful of GMO ANYTHING and fruits or veggies overbred. Sweet suppresses the immune system and bitter stimulates, supports, and invigorates it. Most wild apples are bitter not sweet. Hybrid foods are pretty new and we selected the ones that were highly palatable ie. Sweet and propogated them. Not too many cultivars found in grocery stores are anything like the wild specimens. We just need to think a little bit about how things are naturally found. Like in the Northwest there are many wild berries found that all become ready during different parts of the growing season, full of vitamin c and phenols and phytonutrients etc. Which we would have thrown down on when we found them when we were wild. I still do today. Even pine needles make a vitamin c rich tea or.you.can just chew on them spitting out the pulp.
Seasonal fruit is likely more sparcely found, lots of healthy wild plants, and whatever meat we could chase down. It's not all that difficult to figure out. If you live in a natural setting walk outside and see what grows there and lives there...that is what we are meant to eat. If not...watch a nature documentary whatever you see that is not poisonous ie. plants and not sharp like a porcupine that is what we should be eating. Fruit is not found in large quantities in nature nor are vegetables. Green leafy plants are abundant in nature, most of them are very healing medicinally and will contain vitamins and bioavailable minerals and a whole host of other characteristics science is just now coming to understand as well as beneficial bacteria in the soil they grow in around the roots which are also necessary for proper healthy digestion. The majority of your immune system is in your gut. Animals used to be much more prolific in nature before we over-harvested them and destroyed their habitat with "civilization". Making them much more available for food previously. And cook in meat especially at high temperatures like over a fire leaves behind carcinogenic toxins.
From all my research it just seems like it is just so darn complex to survive and thrive as a vegan. Even the Okinawa's eat meat.
Some people's ancestors lived where there was more ready access to carbs like fruit and starchy veggies and less meat, likely near the equator and yet other people's ancestors lived where there was more access to animal proteins. It's all about your individual needs based on your metabolic type which is based on your heredity, neither is right or wrong idealistically...just certain ways of eating based on your heredity. We can all benefit from eating a few more medicinal wild weeds though....just my 2 cents based on my research and personal experiences. Hope this helps.
I was eating mostly sprouts that I grew myself from organic seed and fruit, based on the greensmoothie lady's website but I was always bloated, putting on weight dramatically, always eating because I was always hungry no matter how much fruit or nuts I ate. I tested as a protein metabolic type on Dr. Mercola's metabolic quiz on his website, protein types need a lot of fat in our diet. I found the metabolic testing researching diabetes because I developed a sweet taste in my mouth that did not go away. I got back on raw meat right away, and my cravings went away.
I usually skip breakfast, eat a pound of raw ground beef lightly salted and warmed in warm water (i don't have access to fresh meat, mine comes frozen in a vacuum packed plastic bag which I thaw in cold water then switch to hot/warm water to warm it through before I open the bag) because it tastes better warm than cold and a pound of my sprouts covered in extra virgin organic cold pressed olive oil, raw garlic, and lightly salted for lunch. For dinner I have some raw egg yolks or hard cheese and another pound of sprouts. Just got started doing this again a couple of days ago and already the sweet taste in my mouth seems to be going away. My bloated stomach is flattening out, gas all but totally gone, cravings gone. I stay completely satisfied all day. I need to get some more organ meat back in my diet but I've only been back to raw paleo a few days and I know most won't eat concentrated oils but this is where I am now, and right now I'm feeling much better.
I'll keep you posted.
The purpose for replying to this thread was to state that we have a range of metabolic types from protein based to carb based and a mixture of the two based on our heredity. I have more indigenous background that doesn't do so well on carbs, but I thrive on raw meat. You may just be the opposite. I think we all need chlorophyll and phytonutrients found in plants mostly wild plants leaves. Any plant that is not poisonous has medicinal value...add that to a raw meat diet for us protein types or the starchy carbohydrate types and I think you have a real winner of a healthy eatting plan. I think we all should be careful of GMO ANYTHING and fruits or veggies overbred. Sweet suppresses the immune system and bitter stimulates, supports, and invigorates it. Most wild apples are bitter not sweet. Hybrid foods are pretty new and we selected the ones that were highly palatable ie. Sweet and propogated them. Not too many cultivars found in grocery stores are anything like the wild specimens. We just need to think a little bit about how things are naturally found. Like in the Northwest there are many wild berries found that all become ready during different parts of the growing season, full of vitamin c and phenols and phytonutrients etc. Which we would have thrown down on when we found them when we were wild. I still do today. Even pine needles make a vitamin c rich tea or.you.can just chew on them spitting out the pulp.
Seasonal fruit is likely more sparcely found, lots of healthy wild plants, and whatever meat we could chase down. It's not all that difficult to figure out. If you live in a natural setting walk outside and see what grows there and lives there...that is what we are meant to eat. If not...watch a nature documentary whatever you see that is not poisonous ie. plants and not sharp like a porcupine that is what we should be eating. Fruit is not found in large quantities in nature nor are vegetables. Green leafy plants are abundant in nature, most of them are very healing medicinally and will contain vitamins and bioavailable minerals and a whole host of other characteristics science is just now coming to understand as well as beneficial bacteria in the soil they grow in around the roots which are also necessary for proper healthy digestion. The majority of your immune system is in your gut. Animals used to be much more prolific in nature before we over-harvested them and destroyed their habitat with "civilization". Making them much more available for food previously. And cook in meat especially at high temperatures like over a fire leaves behind carcinogenic toxins.
From all my research it just seems like it is just so darn complex to survive and thrive as a vegan. Even the Okinawa's eat meat.
Some people's ancestors lived where there was more ready access to carbs like fruit and starchy veggies and less meat, likely near the equator and yet other people's ancestors lived where there was more access to animal proteins. It's all about your individual needs based on your metabolic type which is based on your heredity, neither is right or wrong idealistically...just certain ways of eating based on your heredity. We can all benefit from eating a few more medicinal wild weeds though....just my 2 cents based on my research and personal experiences. Hope this helps.