Ill be chilling here for a few weeks with my brother. Anyone here?

real depression is realizing that the only difference between yourself and a cockroach is that a cockroach is lucky enough to be oblivious to the reality of the world, and the only thing you ultimately have to look forward to is death.

usually we manage to be distracted from this truth by day-to-day bullshit like video games, work, sex, food, exercise etc, but sometimes we have too much time on our hands and we begin to think and understand things ...

the problem is that once you understand and become depressed then you don't want to do anything and then you have even more time to think !  so it is a vicious circle ...

the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the depressed get more depressed ...

when all else fails people have kids as the ultimate distraction from reality, thus passing on the disease to the next generation.  and that's how the world turns.

to me, you understand even less when you focus on death and "reality".  Looking at cave paintings (and the few remaining modern HG populations) you get a sense that our ancestors didn't fear death like we do, not because they were ignorant or anything, but because they lived in the moment, and death was all around them. Now that we just sit on are ass all day, we're isolated from nature, we forget that birth and life in the moment are something to appreciate also.  when you really ponder about death without being caught in the fear of non-existance, you realize its not that big of a deal.  your just not around anymore, so what?  why not just enjoy the time you do have? I think the "truth" your speaking of is a distraction as well.

Seriously, people at the rally were congratulating each other on which signs were the most fear inducing.  Only crazy homeless people that hold up signs about the apocalypse would pay attention, everyone else sees us as conspiracy theorists.

Yes!  it's just like the anti-war movement, they blame everybody but themselves.   Even though they don't morally support wars, their lifestyles support the oil industry and isolation from each other, which inevitably leads to seeing others as non-humans.  Most of the anti-Monsanto crowd don't realize that if they were billionaires they would be trying to maximize profits and destroy the competition as well, because that's part of the American way of life. 

I don't believe the OCA will do much good unless the movement becomes locally based and off the Internet.   Despite what the media says, the revolutions in the Middle East did not come about from online social networking.  Without the vibrant, educated communities in the physical world, organizing  and informing on Face book wouldn't have been enough.

If there is genetic pollution, natural selection should not favor or unfavor its existence. Since the gene has a neutral effect on fitness we shouldn't see exploding populations of GMO alfalfa.

Maybe the huge amount of herbicides used on GMO's drift onto neighboring farms, causing the non-contaminated crops to perish?
http://www.truth-out.org/why-monsanto-always-wins67976
"The USDA claims that the probability of gene flow between GE and non-GE alfalfa is very low, but the EIS does document several instances of transgenic contamination. About 200,000 acres of Roundup Ready alfalfa in 48 states were planted and harvested in 2005 and 2006 before the CFS lawsuit forced a ban. During this time, two alfalfa seed production firms, Dairyland and Cal/West Seeds, reported transgenic contamination in non-GE alfalfa seeds in California, Montana, Idaho and Wyoming. Dairyland reported contamination rates hovering around 1 percent, but in 2009, Cal/West reported that 12 percent of more than 200 alfalfa seed lots were contaminated with transgenes, and in 2008, all six of the firm's research lots tested positive for GE contamination. Preliminary data from 2009 showed that 30 percent of seed stock lots were contaminated."

It may not be the end of grass fed meat yet.  grain feds certainly on its way out.
http://farmandranchfreedom.org/gmo-miscarriages

"This previously unknown organism is only visible under an electron microscope (36,000X), with an approximate size range equal to a medium size virus. It is able to reproduce and appears to be a micro-fungal-like organism. If so, it would be the first such micro-fungus ever identified. There is strong evidence that this infectious agent promotes diseases of both plants and mammals, which is very rare."

"It is found in high concentrations in Roundup Ready soybean meal and corn, distillers meal, fermentation feed products, pig stomach contents, and pig and cattle placentas."

"The pathogen may explain the escalating frequency of infertility and spontaneous abortions over the past few years in US cattle, dairy, swine, and horse operations. These include recent reports of infertility rates in dairy heifers of over 20%, and spontaneous abortions in cattle as high as 45%."

If you have a FB account you can sign up to your congressional districts Millions Against Monsanto Chapter.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_22517.cfm


If your district doesn't have a page yet, make one!  
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_22536.cfm

Wouldn't buying a sunlamp be less costly?  That's what I did for the winter.  I should carry it around with me throughout the house and let it be my only light source, besides windows. 

The USDA has just approved GE alfafa.  this is going to contaminate grass fed animal farms that feed cows alfalfa and likely end up causing organic ones to shut down.  I'd reconsider moving here, it's only going to get worse.
  
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/pressreleases/ge-alfalfa/
http://www.rodale.com/ge-alfalfa-0

The importance of every environmental issue pales in comparison to the Genetic Engineering of food.  It's pretty much a given that humans will destroy the planet as we know it.  The earth would eventually recover from global warming, mass extinctions etc.  But even if the production of GM crops and salmon were halted tomorrow, the contamination of ecosystems over the past 20 yrs. could not possibly be recovered.  Unless nature can adapt to fish genes inserted in potato DNA without any side effects.  

Me too.  Did you make that icon?  It's cute. 

Haha thanks Roselene. yeah its a character for an animated short im creating about genetically modified food.  The only way to inform most people about health issues nowadays is through entertainment. 

Panicking about parasitic and bacterial infections is the first step of the diet.   
Man I'm glad those days are over for me.

well if we are talking about a commune kind of situation I'm sure it can be done.  It would require a great deal of time planning it all out of course so things start smoothly.  

http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Life-Together-Ecovillages-Intentional/dp/0865714711/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1283825449&sr=8-1

according to this book 90% of communes fail because the leaders jump right into things without much forethought.  but the other 10% thrive even when the rest of society is in economic decline.  

  and while farming is hardly ever a ludicrous business, a lot of small farms are doing well because they are targeting to specific markets, selling specialty items and strengthening the local community.  

http://www.amazon.com/One-Straw-Revolution-Introduction-Natural-Classics/dp/1590173139/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1283832803&sr=8-1

also here the most sustainable (unlike organic farming, which often causes plenty of environmental destruction), cheapest and easiest farming method ever made by man.  its called "do nothing" farming because nature does most of the work and the plants come out perfect.  keep in mind the author is a vegetarian, so try to ignore the  anti-meat slant.  In fact he was one of the people who inspired Frances Moore Lappe to write "Diet For A Small Planet"!  I still stand behind the man however, no matter how much havoc his words did wreak in the wrong hands.  I suppose the method would not be cheap raising livestock, as there most natural state is roaming miles upon miles of prairie land.

atleast it's staying down.  fruit must give you a major sugar rush.  i'm ordering the SCB from the library, i'm going to try to convince my father to read it becuase he has TONS of digestive problems caused by eating cereal and bread everyday.

according to the article Polygamy is just as unnatural as monogamy.  Hg's did not marry!  the children were not even raised by their parents, they were raised by the entire group.  and if there were too many children to be looked after... guess what?  they killed them! 

You could even say that individualism is artificial.  In order for Hg's to survive they had to of thought whatever was good for the group was good for them. 

but you could also view neolithic practices as being entirely natural because all of our beliefs are created from nature just as much as anything else on earth.  humans aren't beyond the powers of the universe after all. 

maybe the Neolithic diet was a way to ensure the eventual demise of the human race. haha.