weird, sounds like you are making homemade nutritional yeast with the dried flakes.

I had the same thought....but when I ate nutritional yeast from the health food store it made me sick rather than helping me. I'm not an expert by any means...I just have ideas and experiment a lot. What works I stick with and pursue that line of thought. They do help me a great deal in improving my health, that is the main thing I know.

 ;)I'm still around and my health has continued to improve. My diet has changed in many ways since I last wrote here and since the foods are all very unique fermented foods, that I've figured out through trial and error, I keep what I eat up to date on my blog instead of trying to give a lengthy explanation and picture on here. The paleo part of my diet is all fermented animal foods so I don't know if I am true "paleo" but I'm just after what works. I have figured out how to completely avoid sugar of any kind and it significantly helps me. Anyway I'll try and update this more frequently. I guess my diet fits here more than anywhere else but it is pretty much all just very unconventional fermented food.

I just hope that maybe what I have learned will benefit someone else if possible.

Nope, I wouldn't recommend fruits.

IMO sugar is problematic for the body....no matter the kind or source. From fruit, processed sugar, milk.....to starch and veggies. Cooked or raw.

Not saying one can't have pretty solid health and eat sugar they can, but i believe there is always a cost to sugar and that is slows down healing.

I'd like to weigh in a little. I like a number of Dr. Wilson's points although most of his reasons not to eat raw seem much more pointed at raw plants (fiber argument, sugar, ect). My experience adds up to his evaluation of fat...I completely agree it should be raw (and my experience is also unfrozen).

I also agree that one shouldn't eat sugar (but ironically his diet is full of sugar, that is exactly what cooked starch is) Pizza, breads, pastas, potato based foods...all those meals are at least 80% sugar (and that is rounding down a lot). Cooked starchy veggies...same deal.

I like raw paleo foods and they are beneficial....but for me it was too much protein and so is a SAD. Too much protein makes me very sick....and a number of other things also.

In fact I tried to minimize protein by eating just raw egg yolks (less protein more fat) and it was better but still too much protein for my health situation.

So what I really don't get about this "dr.", he is against sugar (raw) but not in his diet that he recommends and he is very much against fermented foods, why?

Fermented foods (from raw food) has been my God send, it has been the best and so far the only real way to completely free my diet of excess protein and allowed myself to now be completely free of any sugar/starch. Healing has picked up I believe as a result.

So I don't know if any of that helps, I'm definitely pro RAF and want raw dairy brought back into the average persons diet...yet neither were the complete solution for my severe health situation.

I love fermented foods (in fact its about all i eat) but I haven't tried this. Some questions and ideas tho.

So if you put a cheese cloth or even say a shirt over the top of a jar of meat would the flies still be able to lay eggs in it? It seems to keep fruit flies out of vinegar.

Also if leaving it outside dries out the meat, what if you have more fat around the meat wouldn't that keep it moist even if left outside exposed to the air?

Interesting you found raw milk and believed saved your life. I only found it about two months ago and believe it helped me tremendously. Ill health has played havoc with my mind but when taking raw jersey milk over a number of weeks it really seemed to calm me down. Haven't had any in a couple of weeks and have gradually started to get anxious etc again. Getting a new batch on Monday and will experiment again. What benefits did you get?

Yes it is good stuff, and I mentioned the breed because jersey has some of the creamiest (highest fat content) milk of any breed. If not the highest its close. I believe the fat is critical...I eat raw kidney fat now because consuming raw cream everyday is really expensive...but that's what I want my kids to grow up on.

i don't recommend egg whites...my dog will eat raw egg whites along with the yolk, but my cat will only eat the yolk.  I feel better when I only eat the yolk.

Exactly...I agree. Though yolks work better for me I still have some real problems with them

How can one tell if the egg whites have fermented, and not simply dried?

Forgot to mention earlier...dried egg whites that you purchase in the store don't have the same effect.

How can one tell if the egg whites have fermented, and not simply dried?

Well because raw egg whites make me very sick, and the egg whites make me feel healthy. If I could have it tested nutritional that would be nice to prove it....but it cost $$$$ that I don't have, so I guess there is no proof.

how do you ferment your egg-whites?

kd

I've now explained about the egg whites and have a how to make them page on my blog, if you are still interested

Well, I'm new and just read the welcome message(however I've been on this forum a ton, just no posting)

I'm grateful for how relaxed and friendly this forum is. I've been on plenty and this is one of the best by far!

How do I add information into my profile?

  and now out of nowhere  its working? Well i'm glad but I don't trust it anymore...i'm back it more consistently from now on

Well I'm one of those people who reads every nutritional forum out there, and reads them extensively. But I hardly ever sign up and rarely if ever post. But I've tried a ton of diets and healing protocals and think I should share my feedback. I've done raw paleo and primal eating...and still incorporate it, but 100% isn't best for me. I've started a blog that shares idea's and what I'm doing. This crowd will probably be more open to it than most. I'm no writer so this is far from easy for me. If your interested...

http://upside-down-nutrition.blogspot.com/