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Hot Topics / Re: Barefoot Herbalist MH Selling Grass Fed Beef?
« on: November 01, 2011, 05:15:17 am »
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You're a vegan, aren't you?
I've never in my life followed a vegan or vegetarian lifestyle. I eat several pounds of meat a week and I enjoy sushi and raw eggs.

It's one thing to be paranoid to the point where you see and fear germs everywhere. Such a state is called being hypochondriac. I'm not a hypochondriac. In fact I currently don't use any soaps or shampoo's on my body because I trust my bodies natural sebum to act as a barrier against infection. All I use is water and a rough hemp sponge to slough away dead skin cells.

Bacteria are low forms of life which are easily handled by the bodies immune system. Except in really nasty situations like when mammals live in and around their own feces, the body generally takes care of itself just fine.

I think it's ironic that Tyler say's he's not afraid of bacteria on meat, and yet supports some theory that says we should be very afraid of bacteria because it can damage our immune system. Which is it Tyler? What is the arbitrary age that we pass in our youth when bacteria transitions from becoming a fearful pathogen capable to crippling our immune system, to forming a beneficial and symbiotic relationship that can actually aid in our ongoing health?

There is no such arbitrary transition because the theory is junk science, it is also completely irrelevant to anything regarding my original statements.

Lets talk about something relevant. The administrator of this website, vouches for a guy who promotes vegetarianism (more accurately frugivorism). Woops.

I don't promote any form of vegetarianism myself. I do however support the concept of occasional fasting and taking herbs in order to help the body in it's ongoing effort to maintain a healthy immune system. This is no way is at odds with following a raw paleo lifestyle.

The administrator of this website (who I have no qualms with) advocates healing terminal diseases with little more than eating raw meat and fruits at the exclusion of other processed and cooked food. Some might consider that to be 'alternative', and by mainstream medical definition, it is.

To address some of Tyler earlier opinions. I find it ironic that he thinks eating raw meat in order to cure cancer is perfectly logical, and yet taking some medicinal herbs as a precaution is quackery. Do you support mainstream medicine or not, if so why advocate such a radical eating habit. Why blame mainstream processed and cooked foods as the cause of disease and then turn right around and support bandwagon thinking. Lets face it, eating raw meat is not mainstream by any standard. Your statements are clearly at odds with each other.

I've read many books in regards to vitamins, minerals and herbs. I wonder Tyler where you're claim of superior knowledge of not cooking is coming from? Have you read a lot of non-cook books? What steps do I need to take before I can safely not cook my meat?

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Hot Topics / Re: Barefoot Herbalist MH Selling Grass Fed Beef?
« on: October 31, 2011, 10:20:58 am »
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Now, that's truly sad, as , nowadays, the hygiene hypothesis is becoming ever more mainstream in its accepted ideas.
All the more indication that it's bought and paid for.

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The trouble with your above b*llsh*t is that  I did not experience any long-term problems from those tapeworms. So your whole thesis is shattered.
Long term is relative, we'll find out the answer to that when you see how gracefully you do or don't age.

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What possible relevance is the last paragraph? Are you trying to claim that they have anti-parasite "qualities", as a sort of desperate last resort to your argument?
Yes, obviously I'm suggesting that a chemical with endocrine disrupting effects is a great anti-parasite. Nailed it.

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Hot Topics / Re: Barefoot Herbalist MH Selling Grass Fed Beef?
« on: October 29, 2011, 03:07:09 am »
I can see I wont be able to change your mind at this point, so it's useless to belabor. I do think the Hygiene Hypothesis sounds like checkbook science.

Illness is direct cause and effect in nature. Doctors love to convince their patients that their chronic problems are associated with genes or factors beyond their control, so convincing them that they grew up not washing their hands enough fits the bill nicely. I makes for a hypochondriac mindset of a patient. So they reach for the Triclosan* dosed hand soap, hoping to cope with this problem, when the soap and other toxins are likely the cause problem in the first place.

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You don't know what you are talking about. I do.
There's a saying amongst mechanics that when the 'warning light' comes on in a car, it's already too late. Costly damage has been done to the vehicle. They affectionately call it the dummy light. If worms are coming out of your ass every time you fart, that's the dummy light telling you that there is a serious problem in your body and damage has already occurred. Early warning signals are often very faint, and just like with cars, people simply choose to ignore them. Had you taken a preventative maintenance precautions, the situation would have never even occurred. As they used to say, An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

*(Triclosan, which is more commonly used, has been detected in human breast milk, and in 75% of human tissue samples taken, demonstrating widespread exposure. Studies show that triclosan and triclocarban may have endocrine disrupting effects, and in animal studies triclosan was shown to reduce thyroid hormones, which are critical for normal development.)

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Hot Topics / Re: Barefoot Herbalist MH Selling Grass Fed Beef?
« on: October 28, 2011, 06:16:29 am »
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The anti-parasite hysteria is bogus


Who's hysterical? Not me. Nor are farmers that are aware of parasites being simply ubiquitous in farm animals. It's part of life, and the common way to handle them is to either cook or freeze the meat. Since neither of those methods are advocated here, it seems obvious a cheap home remedy alternative is called for if the benefits of eating raw are to be enjoyed freely.

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The simple fact is that very, very few RPDers get them. When they do, they are nearly always harmless ...

Harmless? If you knew of a 30 foot tape worm residing in your intestine, would you just let him be? Besides, if there is even a 1/1,000 chance of catching a harmful parasite, like say one that can take up residence in the human liver or kidneys, wouldn't it be responsible to at least suggest an easy method of prevention or cure in the off chance of infection?

It's an apparent double standard that fear mongering towards Vegans with topics like 'Tropic Ulcer' are tolerated, yet much less far fetched are simple roundworms and tapeworms that continue to persist in the general population despite meat being frozen and/or cooked. These pests are easily handled, and yet I surmise, you wont even entertain their existence out of fear that it might scare people away. After all, by today's standards, eating bloody red meat is drastic enough without also suggesting that this lifestyle is a much increased risk for harboring worms. If the benefits of eating such a way do in fact bear fruit, people will gladly accept the consequences of such a lifestyle even if it means adding some preventative maintenance to their daily routine. There is no need to shield them from the potential downfalls, doing so would only potentially do more harm than good.

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Herbs can do the trick too but one needs high quality unprocessed versions thereof, and often herbal combinations rather than just one herb.

You make it sound oh so difficult, when if fact all it takes is a few potherbs and stuff you can buy at the local supermarket . Prescription drugs on the other hand are costly and only target 1-2 parasites, while herbal combinations are capable of wiping out basically the entire spectrum of worms very quickly. Some single herbs, such as wormwood, are capable of singly-handedly killing and preventing worms if taken on a regular basis. Go ahead and mention the junk science revolving thujone if you will. BTW, absinthe is legal in this country again, albeit at non-medicinal doses.

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I believe worms to be the major cause of all illness, disease and premature death of every mammal on the planet


That's quite a claim, however he is not alone in his hypothesis. American Indian's all over north and south America regularly underwent parasite programs as a method of cure as well as prevention. Also, it's worth noting that the women responsible for harvesting wormwood in it's vogue days in France, had an uncanny history of living past 100.

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Hot Topics / Re: Barefoot Herbalist MH Selling Grass Fed Beef?
« on: October 28, 2011, 03:40:30 am »
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The largest problem with all mammals is the huge quantities of worms and endless varieties. Little is said about worms in beef as many like to believe using a little commercial poisonous de-wormer will solve all the problems.

I believe worms to be the major cause of all illness, disease and premature death
of every mammal on the planet and the more commercially raised, the larger the
problems and when wrong foods are supplemented, ill health is certain to
become a problem.

in my opinion, everyone of animals raised on any size farm will be loaded with worms
and that goes for every specie of animal, rather it be chicken, beef, pig, etc.

This is right on.

Yet few raw paleo advocates even give lip service in regards to worms in raw meat. It's irresponsible to give un-abashed avocation without consideration for this very real health hazard. Apart from occasional comments about freezing meat, no mention of alternative remedies (such as herbal parasite programs) are even suggested as a friendly precaution.

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General Discussion / Re: Hard Fat on Beef Heart
« on: October 24, 2011, 11:01:31 am »
Could it be that this leaf fat, is in fact hydrogenated fat deposits within the cows muscles, and that's why it's so tough and chewy?

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General Discussion / Re: Water ionizers
« on: October 24, 2011, 10:51:57 am »
Can't you Ionize water just by stirring it. I thought it was more about the trace minerals that were in colloidal suspension caused by lowering the surface tension of the liquid. Without those minerals, all you have is low tension H20?

Why wouldn't you just drink some river water run under a UV lamp with some Lugol's iodine added. You could run the now bacteria free water through a fish pack (same stuff you get at the pet store for like a buck a pound) and it's virtually identical to britta filters.

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General Discussion / Re: Article: Cooking kills more people than malaria!
« on: October 15, 2011, 11:59:58 pm »
I don't believe people should cook smokey fires indoors, however they certainly shouldn't replace them with 'natural gas' fed fuel either. The fumes given off by this stuff is worse than the h20 and carbon dioxide given off by wood.

This sort of thing is reminiscent of the water companies coming into poor countries and replacing their 'dirty' water with industrial tap. So instead of getting a few harmless parasites (which the natives have adapted to eons ago) along with their mineral rich water, they now get to pay for dead, mineral devoid liquid polluted with lead and arsenic.

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Primal Diet / Re: question on raw milk
« on: October 13, 2011, 01:41:41 pm »
how do you go about fermenting it, just straight up kefir grains ooor ?

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