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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Loose stools from Lex-style diet?
« on: March 17, 2012, 10:46:22 am »
Hey thanks for all of the replies guys. I have been really busy lately; I work and go to school full-time. The diarrhea went away pretty much the day after I cut down my meat (and subsequently protein) intake. I do not think it was due to the salt, but thank you for the suggestion hititraw.  I am still consuming a teaspoon a day with my meat and organ mix and have not had any problems.

However, I am worried that I have still not adapted to high-fat diet yet, and I've been pursuing this for about six months now. I had so much energy when I was eating that much protein. I was consuming about 250 grams a day, which I now know is way, way too much. Now that I have diminished down to about 150  grams a day, I feel weaker, but it is nice to not have to worry about being close to a bathroom 24/7. Also, I ran out of suet so I also have been running on about only 100 grams of fat a day. I am hoping it is this low fat intake which is causing the lack of energy and the lowered protein intake, for if it is the latter than that would suggest that I am not fat-adapted; If I was consuming 250 grams a day and was converting 58% to glucose, then I would have had 150 grams of glucose a day, which is enough I think to keep you out of ketosis and not encourage fat adaptation. Any responses to my analysis of what was going on whould be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Loose stools from Lex-style diet?
« on: February 24, 2012, 11:39:02 am »
ok. thanks prowler. I will look into that. maybe i can pick up some ketostix at work.

how long have you been trying to adapt to a high fat diet?

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Loose stools from Lex-style diet?
« on: February 23, 2012, 06:42:21 am »
I better have become fat adapted. For the past six months or so I have not consumed more than 30 grams a carbs in any given day. haha.

I think I will actually cut my protein consumption down to about 110 g (this is 1 lbs. of high fat ground beef and 0.5 lbs. primal) and add extra fat to make up for the loss of calories. How would I go about 'checking for spilled ketones?"

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Loose stools from Lex-style diet?
« on: February 22, 2012, 12:32:25 am »
Hey Van, I think you might be right about the level of proteins that I am consuming. I just went over Lex's calculated amounts of protein and fats when he did his 80/20 diet and he said he was consuming ~1.5 lbs. a day, 102 g protein, and 182g fat. I have been consuming about 2.5 lbs. a day, and 173g protein, and 233g fat. I am going to cut down to 2 lbs a day at about a ratio of 70/30, with 141g protein and 178g a fat. This will be a total reduction of calories by 700-1000. I will see if this makes a difference.

Honestly, I do not know why I started eating so much when I started this diet. I think I had the concept of the warrior diet in my head, in which the author states to "overeat" during that one meal a day. Also, I though the more the better I guess.

PaleoPhil, I was not feeling very well on Bee's diet. A diet of mainly egg yolks, coconut oil, and butter is rather disgusting. Also, I did not have the amount of energy I wish I could have. My levels of energy and alertness grew exponentially when I fist started this diet and have kind of tapered off since then. Also, I think I am pretty sensitive to dairy, even butter. I have much less mucous and bouts of my eyes tearing up and such since eating only meat/organs. I would also usually get dizzy and nauseous upon consuming my meals under Bee's regimen. True, it did not occur to me to eat only once a day, I was eating about 2-3 times a day and after about 5-6 hours I was starving and couldn't concentrate on anything until I ate. So, I think this is a much better fit for me.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Re: Loose stools from Lex-style diet?
« on: February 20, 2012, 11:28:00 pm »
Hey, thanks for the responses guys!

So, from these posts, one would conclude that I am probably just not fat adapted yet. How long does this usually take do you think? I was eating an anti-candida Bee Wilder diet for a while. I ate mostly raw egg yolks, coconut oil, butter, and a little bit of cooked ground beef or chicken for about three months. This was seriously a mostly fat diet, probably 90% or so and I did not have frequent diarrhea, though, I was eating closer to 2000-2500 calories a day. I just calculated how much I eat now and it is closer to 4000 (about 77-8% from my calculations)! I had no idea. This might be a bit much? haha. If I stop adding suet or extra fat, I could get my total intake to around 3000 calories, and ~72% fat. I think I will do this and see if it makes a difference. This would also take care of Tyler's theory about suet being an inferior fat.

Also, PaleoPhil, I appreciate your suggestion to try eating plant foods too, but ultimately I like just eating a meat/organ diet right now because of its simplicity, i.e. the mono-eating philosophy. Oh, I should mention that I eat about 2 tsp. of celtic sea salt with my meat, but I have been ingesting that much salt since September.

As a side note, I really like marrow too, but I find that when I order it, it usually comes in one of two forms. The most common one has a chalky texture and is hard, much like suet; and the second becomes soft, almost liquid-y at room temperature. The latter is far superior to the first one! imo


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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / Loose stools from Lex-style diet?
« on: February 20, 2012, 01:45:24 am »
Hi. My name is Jeff. I am new to posting on this forum, though I have been perusing the archives and journals for months now, educating myself on the way of eating raw. I have been following a Lex-style diet for about a month now; I eat only 2 lbs. 78% lean ground beef mixed with 0.5 lb. of the primal ground beef, and some beef suet or marrow thrown in for extra fat (All from Slanker's). I eat it all within usually about a 4 hour window, but if my schedule permits, I will eat it all in a 1-2 hour sitting.
    This diet has been very liberating. The intermittent fasting factor of the diet allows my mind to stay sharp and focused, and the hypoglycemia I was experiencing prior to zero-carb eating has practically vanished. I feel that my internal organs are finally receiving the nutrition they need to repair themselves from all of the damage that I am positive was done to them through the standard way of eating, i.e. eating all the time, wrong types of foods, combinations, chemicals, etc.; as well as following the traditional medical symptom-treating paradigm. However, as of about 2 weeks ago, I have had extremely loose stools. Virtually every time I go to the bathroom, it is diarrhea. Sometimes I experience stomach cramping that coerces me to take 5-6 bowel movements a day. I know that I did not develop IBS or something similar from this diet, so I am posting here for any suggestions to what might be causing this. I do have a few ideas.
    I have been leaving the concoction of meat and fat out at room temperature for about 7-10 hours everyday before I eat it. Maybe this is a little too intense for just beginning the diet, and my intestines are just not used to ingesting the level of bacteria that builds up as a result of this? I have had many digestive problems in the past, mainly from as stated above, eating combinations of food in large quantities that I know the body is not acclimated to consuming on a consistent basis. However, this problem was mainly chronic-constipation and severe stomach cramping. So, perhaps this loose stool problem is a result of my digestive system trying to restore homeostasis.
    Any input from experienced raw-carnivore dieters would be much appreciated. PaleoPhil and Lex, if you have time to respond, I would be much obliged. For now, I am going to only leave the meat out of the fridge for a couple of hours before I eat it and see if that makes a difference. Thank you for the support and to all who participate in this forum. This is truly a splendid outlet for facilitating self-experimentation to those looking for alternative explanations to the ways things are.
    Peace and Love, Jeff


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