I'm betcha that the human population couldn't have gotten to where it is now without all the grains. DR's approach isn't exactly going to feed vast populations - especially when he has to eat truck loads it seems of fruit every day to get the calories he thinks he needs to be fruitarian the "right" way.

PaleoPhil talks a good deal about how difficult it would become if raw paleo became the new big diet hit - all the prices would sky rocket he says. I'm just really truly blessed that he was willing to tell poor little me about his diet.

There is a thread somewhere in this forum that shows that it is grazing animals that restore the balance of nature.

That it is agriculture that has caused desertification in history.

Hey - you started GK by posting DR!    But really - I don't consider those guys as anywhere near a good general example of a vegan - even as a stereotype. Vegans more stereotypically are more back to nature types - not boob job, bleach blonding and promoting their extreme thinness and sexuality as a way to get people to follow them. I think it does harm. Women follow FreeLee thinking that if they eat enough fruit they are going to have her boobs and hair etc. Lying like that while insulting and attacking others for eating differently is just not right. I hate to break the news to those that haven't figured it out yet - natural breasts are made almost exclusively of FAT - not silicone. If you want big boobs - eat fat - not fruit...... or at least know that if you want to look like FreeLee you will need to find a good plastic surgeon. Eating all fruit is going to DEFLATE natural breasts. It's just reality because fruit does not have the fat that creates breasts. End of story. I actually like veganism - I was a vegan for a really long time and it did me good - I just can't stand the harm to just about everyone those two do. It's such a terribly negative message.

GK - you just gotta find a way to get grass-fed! Remember - big industry feeds their cows soy and corn which makes those cows get terrible bacteria build-up so they have to give them loads of antibiotics and hormones because of it and most of those cows are massively genetically engineered - some so unhealthy that they can only be raised to a young age because they would die soon anyway. Girls are getting their periods younger and younger because of all the hormones. You don't want female hormones do you? Those cows live horrendous horrible existences. It's just GROSS!

There are some fatty acids and other fat-soluble compounds that are hard to find in large amounts in plants.  It's hard for some people to synthesize enough vitamin A from plant sources, and liver/kidneys have the most bio-available form. 

It's harder to get enough easily-digested minerals from plant foods...shellfish have ridiculous amounts of trace minerals and macro-minerals, and they are VERY easy to digest, compared to most plant foods.

It's not that there is no way to get everything from a plant-based diet.  It's just that some people are going to find it VERY difficult, due to both availability and digestibility of certain foods.

Finally, of course, many people will become dangerously deficient in vitamin B-12 without animal foods.  My B-12 levels went from 299 on vegan diet to 799 on raw animal foods, without any supplements.

What I didn't expect was how much more practical raw animal foods were going to be for me. My food bill is now within decent limits. My refrigerators don't look like they are going to explode filled to every nook and cranny. My shopping has become reasonable and my food preparation time and effort are now within parameters that make it enjoyable.

I'm not so sure that it takes time to adapt to raw foods. That is, when I first went rawpalaeo, I instantly noticed that raw meats were far easier for me to digest than any cooked animal foods.

Hey George, I'm glad to hear your mum is actually encouraging/challenging you try raw meat. That will make things much easier. Who buys the food in your house? Do you think the rest of your family might be interested in switching from grainfed to grassfed meats? Do you have access to farmers' markets and online stores?

Regarding obstacles, I find I am not tempted at all by non raw paleo food. My body is satisfied so I don't get unhealthy cravings. My only temptation is giving in to societal pressures.

This is not a cult of crazy people.

Its a sacred sanctuary from the insanity of the dietary ignorance of most of the modern world..

Perhaps much of my own extreme fervor for the Raw meat could be comparable to the truly insane vegetarian fanaticism, in some abstract conceptual realm.

I cant speak for everyone here, for all I know every other member of this forum could be "crazy", but I have the personal results in strength vitality, virility and overall mental well being, that most vegetarians could only dream of. That is enough proof of my sanity (at least in my book)

Hopefully, if our numbers increase past a certain point, we'll eventually be able to cry "discrimination" if local restaurants/schools etc. do not provide rawpalaeodiet-friendly dishes.

I would suggest bringing raw honeycomb to school. Also raw fruit. If you look on rawpaleodiet.com, Lex has provided instructions on how to make beef jerky using equipment costing 10 dollars. Bringing dried beef jerky to school would not antagonise SAD-eating friends. It isn't ideal, given the lack of water-content, but it's better than eating cooked foods, by far.

Bodybuilders often talk about eating raw eggs in public. It doesn't seem that unusual to me.

Of course, what you could do is Intermittent Fasting  which means you eat just one large meal a day, often in the evenings. If you eat some raw animal fat in that one meal, you can last for ages without eating, thus not needing to eat at school.