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http://getgreens.org/index.php/2009/04/29/indigenous-tribes-of-the-rainforest/ (google)

thanks, I was curious since I don't hear much about hunter-gatherers eating them.

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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Vitamin C and carnivorism
« on: January 29, 2011, 02:21:22 am »
I believe most wild fruit is exceptionally high in Vitamin C compared to the domesticated fruits commonly available. This would mean you wouldn't need to eat as much fruit to get a lot of Vitamin C. I think the RDA for Vitamin C is too low but then again it may just be because Vitamin C is so depleted in fruits and vegetables today. I think a more optimal RDA would be 1000 mg.

Yeah sure you can have a little Vitamin C to prevent scurvy but who wants to simply be on the edge of scurvy?


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I believe chances are that they would have been. I dont think people who are on a constant quest for food discriminate as much as we do. And then one day they came upon amanita muscaria and psylocybin containing mushrooms. Terrence McKenna argued that this was a key point in our development of language and culture. I dont know if thats true, but its interesting still.

Are there any hunter-gatherer tribes that actually eat mushrooms?

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Hot Topics / Re: Raw Vegan vs Paleo
« on: January 04, 2011, 08:09:52 am »
Sometimes small lizards come into the house. I am very good at catching them with my hands. I haven't eaten them, though, just using it as an example...and of course insects are very easy to catch. The eating of small animals likely extends far back in primate evolution, way before the eating of large animals. This would suggest that omnivorism is much more rooted in our biology than we think.

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Hot Topics / Re: Raw Vegan vs Paleo
« on: January 04, 2011, 06:23:33 am »
There is a whole other category of animals called scavengers. Hominids like Australopithecus probably starting eating large animals as left-overs from other animals' hunting. Maybe tool use developed when we needed to extract the brains and marrow from bones. then later humans became hunters.

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Wai Dieters / Re: Anyone here doing the wai diet?
« on: January 03, 2011, 03:01:21 pm »
If cane sugar is used at all, I think it should be rapadura "whole" cane sugar which is the healthiest.
But for some reason I believe sucrose must be worse than other sugars. I guess because it's used in all the sweets we know to be unhealthy. I did read something about bacteria in the mouth more effectively feeding on sucrose, thus causing more tooth decay.


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General Discussion / Re: Fuel of the Digestive System
« on: January 02, 2011, 04:52:54 pm »
Fiber...

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=59

Certain types of fiber are referred to as fermentable fibers because they are fermented by the "friendly" bacteria that live in the large intestine. The fermentation of dietary fiber in the large intestine produces a short-chain fatty acid called butyric acid, which serves as the primary fuel for the cells of the large intestine and helps maintain the health and integrity of the colon.

Two other short-chain fatty acids produced during fermentation, propionic and acetic acid are used as fuel by the cells of the liver and muscles. In addition, propionic acid may be responsible, at least in part, for the cholesterol-lowering properties of fiber.

In animal studies, propionic acid has been shown to inhibit HMG-CoA reductase, an enzyme involved in the production of cholesterol by the liver. By lowering the activity of this enzyme, blood cholesterol levels may be lowered.

In addition, fermentable fibers help maintain healthy populations of friendly bacteria. In addition to producing necessary short-chain fatty acids, these bacteria play an important role in the immune system by preventing pathogenic (disease-causing) bacteria from surviving in the intestinal tract.

As is the case with insoluble fiber, fibers that are not fermentable in the large intestine help maintain bowel regularity by increasing the bulk of the feces and decreasing the transit time of fecal matter through the intestines. Bowel regularity is associated with a decreased risk for colon cancer and hemorrhoids (when the hemorrhoids are related to straining and constipation).

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Hot Topics / Re: Vegetable juice question
« on: December 30, 2010, 06:58:02 am »
Juicing takes away the fiber from fruit and veggies.

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Hot Topics / Re: Neanderthals ate cooked grains, veggies and meat
« on: December 28, 2010, 10:11:21 am »
Well, there have been worse articles about the Neanderthals, Tyler.

^aside from the seemingly fictional history (written by a former filmmaker, no less), the picture looks very unrealistic.

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Hot Topics / Re: Neanderthals ate cooked grains, veggies and meat
« on: December 28, 2010, 08:29:22 am »
It says they found "grains of plant material". It doesn't sound like they mean "grains" in that way, more like "grain" as in a small piece of something.

I always wondered about cooking methods. I doubt they would have a saute pan ready to make stir fry. No ovens, no pots. I've heard theories of turtle shells and other such things being used as cooking pots.

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Omnivorous Raw Paleo Diet / Re: When do you eat sweet fruit?
« on: December 27, 2010, 06:41:07 am »
I like fruit to be sweet. the problem with apples is they are not so nutritious. Whether this is because of over-domestication I don't know.

I made this graph of Vitamin C levels in fruits (from Wikipedia article on Vitamin C)



I forgot to put baobab on there which is also super nutritious (has lots of Vitamin C, more calcium than milk). Wild fruits ARE superfoods, it seems.

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Hot Topics / Re: Possible high-meat poisoning/questions
« on: December 27, 2010, 06:23:28 am »
some molds are "edible" and used in fermentation for example, Aspergillus oryzae used to make miso, soy sauce and sake, but Aspergillus flavus produces aflatoxin. It's not...either all mold is safe or all mold is deadly.

Beats me how paleo peoples (or people before microbiology) could know how to prevent toxic molds. Maybe the traditions they developed over time.

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Hot Topics / Re: Possible high-meat poisoning/questions
« on: December 26, 2010, 08:36:53 am »
Well, this is the 1st time ever I have heard of someone having negative reactions to "high-meat". The only thing I can think of is that you might have tried "high-meat" too early on into the diet, and were simply experiencing some minor temporary form of detox.

As for the effects of "high-meat", the bacteria do not give out any toxins. Part of the benefit lies in the improved digestion provided by the extra bacteria in it, plus the bacteria simply stimulate the brain to increase serotonin levels, thus boosting concentration levels and improving mood.

what about mycotoxins?



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General Discussion / Re: Raw complex carb options
« on: December 20, 2010, 09:18:56 am »
I tried raw summer squash, I didn't like the taste. -v

I have no problem with carbs though, I lean toward the Wai diet, which is very carbolicious. :D

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General Discussion / Re: Raw complex carb options
« on: December 20, 2010, 06:16:40 am »
What about malanga? I haven't tried it but I read it has a nutty flavor although I'm not sure if they were talking about it cooked or raw. I saw it at the store recently so I might try it.

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Health / Re: Helminthic worm therapy
« on: December 19, 2010, 06:56:19 am »
What would the paleo people do if they get parasite? just die or suffer?
how their bodies go rid of parasites? AV says its myth but people still get parasites?
Is it because the handling of meat ? how they cut it (careful with intestine because of bacteria)?
meat by itself cant contain parasites right its all about the butchers right?
I need this info thanks

I was a vegan when I found out I had hookworms. The most common cause of this parasite is actually walking barefoot on soil. The larvae enter the skin and make their way to the intestines.

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Hot Topics / Is salami raw?
« on: December 18, 2010, 09:36:56 am »
I am kind of confused here. because I see it referred to as raw but I also read that it is exposed to high temperatures. Wikipedia says it's "completely uncooked", but it also says "salami are not raw per se, they have been prepared via curing". ???

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General Discussion / Re: Orange juice Fruits Tea??
« on: December 14, 2010, 02:37:43 pm »
Well it's a better choice than apple juice. -v

apple juice...looks like pee, tastes like it too. ;)

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Hot Topics / Re: A lil' update.
« on: December 14, 2010, 02:29:53 pm »
Could you eat the tubers raw? or would that just be gross and unhealthy?

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Vitamin D is more important as Vitamin D deficiency can cause osteoporosis. Vitamin D regulates calcium levels.

Also, many plants and some animal foods (bones, small fish) are good sources of calcium. I think over-domestication and soil depletion is why there isn't as much calcium, for example the wild fruit baobab has more calcium than milk.

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