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Welcoming Committee / Re: A Quick Peep
« on: January 03, 2011, 11:25:11 am »
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In my free-time, i like to kick sand into people's faces on the beach.

hmm....sand in face = pain.

therefore...."in my free-time, i like to hurt people."

well.

quite an intro, David.

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Off Topic / Re: Would you eat seafood from the Gulf of Mexico now?
« on: December 31, 2010, 02:37:27 pm »
Well this thread is telling me I don't belong here.

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Off Topic / Re: Would you eat seafood from the Gulf of Mexico now?
« on: December 31, 2010, 02:25:58 am »
I cannot vote because you don't have a time period long enough to submit a vote. I would not ever, in my lifetime, eat a bite of seafood from the Gulf of Mexico. They have killed the gulf and potentially have killed the oceans of the world, and potentially - the species of oxygen breathing mammals as a result.

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Miles I am an administrator on another forum. I am in the position daily of approving accounts. In the process, every single IP address goes into a search engine. If that doesn't pull it up as a spam bot, then the individual email address gets put into the search engine. If that doesn't pull up a spam bot, I approve the registration.

When we first established the forum, we were getting 20 - 30 spam bots for every human registration. We finally started making a list of every IP address that was a spam bot and blocking those addresses. After about a month of doing that, we got down to just having an occasional spam bot for every human registration. Oh yes, there ARE definitely spam bots getting into forums.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions
« on: December 31, 2010, 12:24:44 am »
Ok, I'll stick with beef for awhile and then branch into lamb and goat. Goat won't happen until I'm actually ready to butcher one of mine and that won't happen for sure until next summer sometime. I don't have meat goats. They are miniature Nigerian Dwarf dairy goats, which produce milk but aren't all that great for meat. I've always assumed I'd be into meat production with unwanted kids eventually, since the does must be bred every year to produce milk, but I'd figured I'd feed it mostly to my dogs who are on a carnivore diet. Well, I guess  I'm going to be in competition with the dogs, lol.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions
« on: December 30, 2010, 04:38:00 am »
Ok, this is what I did to a beef t-bone steak yesterday. I sliced off very thin pieces, then cut them into bite size chunks. Then, marinated in lemon juice and added some coconut oil which instantly hardened, so that didn't work very well. Left it in the ice box for about two hours, then took an avocado, scooped it out into the bowl of meat, started mashing it into the meat, until it was thoroughly mixed. Then, I ate it. I swallowed pieces without a lot of chewing, whenever I thought about what I was doing. It was, frankly, delicious.

I'm realizing today that I have a LOT more bias against eating chicken meat than goat, lamb or beef. Why? Anyone have any ideas why it just "sounds worse" to eat raw chicken than raw beef? One problem is that I don't have a source for super healthy chickens like I do for beef or goats. But it's more than that and I'm thinking it's buried in my psyche given to me by society.

I've popped out with a UTI this morning. Any possibility it's related to such a massive diet change as to add raw meat? More acid or less acid or something?

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General Discussion / Re: Questions
« on: December 29, 2010, 03:07:30 am »
raw-al, thanks for your response. My primary reaction isn't actually "I'm gonna die," because I've had a pretty solid reassurance from Sally Fallon in Nourishing Traditions that I just need to freeze the meat for two days to ensure no parasites. And, I'm very lucky about my source of meat. I'm eating a steer we raised on our own land, so I KNOW what went into that cow. I raise my own goats, so when I get around to trying milk again (off dairy right now) I will have my own raw milk. I haven't drunk pasteurized milk for three years. Due to the insanity of the federal govt. and BP, we have made the decision to eat no more ocean fish of any kind for any reason whatsoever. Also that goes for farmed fish. So, the only fish we will ever eat will come out of our own lake or the stream that's about two miles from here. We live in the wilderness off the grid and the world of wild meat is sitting outside our door.

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Hot Topics / Re: Rabies.
« on: December 29, 2010, 03:02:04 am »
I have been in four accidents in cars in my life. One of them was caused by the person driving - not me. The other three were caused by other cars with no chance whatsoever of avoiding it, since the person was coming from behind. Two of the accidents resulted in a roll over. One resulted in my car exploding. No, I disagree that you can "respect the threat" and therefore, avoid it. I do not believe the analogy I made was "dumb" as you suggested.

I do however, think it is dumb to bring up the question if you really don't think it's a problem and you're only being hypothetical.

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General Discussion / Re: Questions
« on: December 28, 2010, 12:26:34 pm »
Thank you, both. Ok, so summarizing, I'm doing it for the lack of toxicity from cooked meats, and the enzymes, bacteria and increased digestibility.

I discovered tonight just how easy it is to swallow raw, ground meat whole - without chewing so I didn't gross myself out. (LOL).

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General Discussion / Questions
« on: December 28, 2010, 08:37:37 am »
Last night I ate some raw grassfed ground beef. I am going to eat the rest of it today, but plan to add a bit more lemon juice - that made it easier. That, plus a whole lot of onions in it. It was all right as long as I didn't dwell too much on what I was doing. Thinking about what was in my mouth made me gag. But the taste was fine - it was just the idea of it that got to me.

So, I'm beginning to realize that I just jumped into this with both feet and with my eyes closed. Now I'm trying to figure out why I decided it was a good idea and what the hell I'm doing. I'd like to start by giving as brief as possible a description of my health problems and what I've been doing about it, then have questions.

I am morbidly obese. I'm a diet expert who has tried everything - which is why I got up to morbidity, of course, since a calorie restricted diet is a sure way to blow metabolism (learned too late.) I have been increasingly in pain for years, to the point that during this past summer and fall I have wondered why I wanted to stay alive. Everything hurts. There isn't a part of me that is pain free.

On Nov. 30, I started eating raw vegan. The pain levels dropped dramatically. It was my idea to test foods one at a time to see what could be added back in. The last time I tried raw vegan (four years ago), I lasted four months and lost 80 pounds. Even when I went back to eating cooked foods, the weight stayed off for another 18 months - until I added wheat back in again and gained it all back. So, anyway, I knew I wouldn't last forever eating raw vegan because I go nuts for meat, but I wanted desperately to lose the weight again and thought I'd try it for as long as I could stand it.

A week ago, I decided to test eggs. I didn't want to eat four raw eggs that night (was doing a major challenge) so I cooked them. The next day, no pain increase, so I had two raw eggs in a smoothie, then four cooked eggs that night. Next morning - POW - couldn't get out of bad for the pain. I figured it was demonstrating a delayed reaction egg allergy, until a friend suggested I look into leaky gut syndrome because the protein could have passed the intestinal wall barrier before being broken down into amino acids and be causing the pain that way.

So, I investigated and found a lot of potential matching in the symptoms. (I should clarify here - no doctors. Period. NO Medical fucking doctors. That's how I feel about allopathic medicine. So, I'm doing this totally on my own.)

Anyway, then my daughter wondered if there was a difference between eating the eggs raw or cooking them, in how the protein would go through cell walls. I did a search and found this site, and a few other places that talked about eating raw meat. So, that's how I ended up here, and decided to give raw meat a try. So, now, a couple days later, and the dust is settling and I'm going - why?

Why are some of you refusing to eat any plant food at all?
Are there some of you who do eat plant foods? What kind of percentage of meat versus vegies?
Are there some of you who have a concentration on plant foods (fruits and vegies) and then just add some meat?
Is the primary point to eat everything raw - including plant foods if those are eaten?
What is it about eating raw meat that is supposed to be so good for you? (This is probably the biggest question I have.)
I have been doing online searches and have come up with not very much at all about eating raw meat. Is this guy named Anjulus or whatever, the only guru out there promoting raw meat or are there others that I could do a search on?
Are there any videos with interviews of people who have experienced a raw meat diet and gotten better (I found one.)

I would appreciate anything any of you would like to share about this. I'm freaking out here about what I've gotten myself into and not understanding exactly what I'm doing or why I'm doing it.



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Hot Topics / Re: Rabies.
« on: December 28, 2010, 04:35:57 am »
You're right, Miles. It could happen to you. or me. or anyone else.

But, the simple truth is that it could also happen that when I get in my car next time and drive to town, I could get killed along the way. Is that going to stop me from getting into my car? No. I want to go to town more than I'm worried about being killed doing it.

The same goes for eating wild meat. You'll have to make your own decision about it. I don't have to eat road kill or wild meat right now because I have plenty of meat without it. But I fully expect a time in the future when I might have to hunt in order to eat. I'm damned well not going to worry about rabies when that time comes because I'll be a whole lot more concerned about getting enough to eat.

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General Discussion / Re: Working on an animal farm or living in the wild...
« on: December 26, 2010, 08:54:53 am »
Ok. It's best to know up front what the lifestyle is. And you're right, city folk usually can't cut it up here. Not that there aren't people around, of course, but it is definitely a winter wilderness right now.

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Welcoming Committee / Colorado off-grid
« on: December 26, 2010, 07:47:37 am »
Hello, folks. I joined this forum today, after doing a search about raw food and leaky gut syndrome. I've been eating a raw vegan diet for about a month. My plan was to test each individual food for allergy reaction and then add back in foods that did not cause problems. My primary difficulty is pain, caused by inflammation. The very first food I tested was eggs - cooked. Two days later, I was back into massive pain. I assumed egg allergy until I discovered the relationship between leaky gut syndrome and protein. Then my daughter suggested that there might be a difference between cooked or raw protein. That started another direction in my search and led me to the idea of eating animal proteins raw instead of cooked.

I'm game to try anything that will help me. The pain in every joint is simply unbearable and no longer worth living through. I'm also morbidly obese and game to try anything that will help me lose weight without making my health worse.

I am also rabidly anti-allopathic medicine. The only place allopathic medicine belongs is in the emergency room treating accidents. There, they shine. But the only thing MD's do for disease is make the patient worse.

I live with my husband in wilderness, off-grid, in the mountains. I'm 62, have three grown children and ten grandchildren. I'm part of a small community that is working toward self-sufficiency. I have 30 goats. My son has four cows and a bunch of pigs. We also have chickens. We're working on creating a garden. It's a challenge at 8000ft. elevation.

I'm hopeful that I'll discover a way to maintain raw food and improve my health. I've tried raw vegan several times, but never lasted because I started craving meat so badly. Maybe this is my answer.


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General Discussion / Re: Working on an animal farm or living in the wild...
« on: December 26, 2010, 07:22:51 am »
How primitive do you want to be? I live off-grid in the Colorado Rockies and have 30 goats I need help with. I've been looking for someone who would like to live in a very primitive way, in a tipi and/or a wicki-up built out of indigenous materials. We have the land to offer, but that's all. Meaning - I don't have enough money to offer someone food as well as a place to be. So, I'd only ask for about 10 hours of help a week. Mostly mucking out and come spring milking twice a week maybe.

Our land is an hour's drive from the nearest city. Our nearest neighbor (outside the small community that lives on this land) is a mile away. We live on 160 acres, surrounded by national forest. Interested?

I just joined the forum today and was doing a bit of reading before going to the intro site, but I guess now that I'm writing this post, I'd better get over there and do an intro, lol.

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