Nowadays, intelligence can be misconstrued as a good ability to regurgitate information. Just because you regurgitate information some authority figure says is correct doesn't mean one is necessarily intelligent.

Hi Caveman,

i would just like to point out that i am not a vegan. I am just debating and asking questions.

Another thing that vegans claim, and again one more time with a feeling, science smiles at them, is that there is nothing that meat provides from nutrients that you cant get from vegetable sources or fruits only in a cleaner state.

Did you know that by putting our bodies and minds under such tension during the hunting, we are secreting more and more adrenaline which is a poison in greater amounts than normal. When we hunt down an animal, the animal which is slaughtered also secretes large amounts of adrenaline due to fear and that's what we get when we eat its meat.

The vegans say that. And science confirms this.

It's pretty easy to see that a raw vegan diet will leave you very "cleansed". Possibly too much. Eating Paleo is definitely more rebuilding to the body because of the meats and fats from animals.

I don't want to say that being vegan is a bad choice for your health, but for long term, I don't think it's very optimal for us.

YOU're weak, YOU're the weakest creature in terms of physical abilities, and I'm not sure you have the intelligence to compensate for that. You're talking about yourself, not humans. Don't insult my species.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wI-9RJi0Qo

A follower of movnat also hunted a deer in California this way, and killed it with a rock.

This is different, but another example of someone catching a wild animal without weapons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqko-lxsQsE

That's right.Many people here came from being raw vegan/vegan long term.It may have felt good at first but in the long term it didn't hold up.Many people developped weak bodies and illnesses.Read the history of some of the members here and you will see.
I was convinced to the max on eating Macrobiotic,then vegan,then fruits.I wish I knew then what I know now.

We can outrun all herbivores.

I digest beef better than just about anything else, even fruit.
Butter with honey is the only thing that works quicker.
After I eat about a pound of beef, my stomach is clear in less than 2 hours and I feel much more satisfied.

I did find a number of articles about how Manuka honey can help with dental problems, due to its anti-bacterial properties.

About 3 years ago, I found Manuka honey in a health food store and tried it. It was UMF 18 (the highest they had). However, it was heated (but not pasteurized). It had a nice taste. I was eating local honey at the same time as the Manuka honey, so I don't know if Manuka by itself is bad for my teeth. It might be worth a try. Do you know a source for unheated Manuka honey?

I've also been reading up on Yemen Sidr honey. Very expensive, but I might try it once. Maybe it won't have such a bad effect on my teeth.

Like Wow!  You come from Madagascar?
That sounds exotic to me.
You must have some very exotic animals and fruits in your big island.
Are you still in Madagascar?

You mentioned grass?  What grass is edible?

I experience dental problems if I eat honey on a regular basis.

If I eat a few teaspoons of honey every day, over the period of a month or two, then my teeth start getting loose. If I then cut out the honey, my teeth start getting firm again.

Honey has helped me with other things (for example, during a cold/flu), but it always has negative effects on my teeth.

I'm curious, what is the basis of your statement that "you can fight tooth decay by eating more honey"? Personal experience? Theory? Some article that you read?

I'm not claiming that you do have problems with honey. Everyone doesn't respond the same to everything. That's one thing that has been made eminently clear to me by this forum and others. I've been amazed by the wide variance in reactions to the same foods by people just at this forum, and even moreso when including folks at other forums I sometimes peruse. Don't worry about raw honey not working for me. If it works for you that's great and all you need be concerned with. Just please don't try to speak for everyone. Your experience is your own, not mine nor anyone else's. I have nothing against raw honey. I love it and would be thrilled if I adapted to it some day, maybe with the help of royal jelly, I don't know. If not, that's OK too, as I love meats and fish. I'll make lemonade of whatever lemons I'm given.

In my experience comb honey was much easier on the teeth.