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 I'm not here to say that barefoot running isn't a natural and probably a better way to run and walk, but I am here to say that please be careful to condition your feet and legs to go barefoot. I attempted to get  a costumed to barefoot running about five years ago by taking it easy on my feet by first just walking for about 3 months before I attempted to run barefoot. Even though I tried taking it easy I feel that I did damage to my left foot. I still believe that going barefoot is the way to go but reading that your already running with out doing much to first strengthen your feet has me worried. Still after five years since I hurt myself I still have problems with the arch on my left foot and it is not fun to say the least.

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General Discussion / Re: Possible to ferment fat?
« on: February 22, 2010, 07:08:01 am »

I am not sure if pickling aids digestion or not.

What are your side effects/issues when you eat regular fat?

Very good point I didn't realize carbs were needed for fermentation to take place. And as far as side effects go I get extremely tired after eating a fat and protein meal even from eating a small serving as in a half pound of meat. Also after I eat a meal I get a squeezing sensation in my lower right stomach which I would say is probably my gallbladder. I can also see liquid fat in the toilet after a bowel movement so I believe I'm not properly digesting the fat. Having said all that I probably just need to stick with eating small meals and wait untill my body adjusts to the different foods I'm now eating.

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General Discussion / Re: Possible to ferment fat?
« on: February 21, 2010, 06:52:16 am »
Well if you can handle eating it (because of taste not because the tax on your body) then try eating high meat. Tylerdurden wrote about how to make it. Its suppose to be very easily digested.

http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/display-your-culinary-creations/high-meat-recipe-preparation-for-more-advanced-rafers/
Yes i actually just started to make my first batch of high meat a day before i posted my question, hopefully that will make the meat easier to digest.
It may be in my head, although I don't think so, but when my fat starts to oxidize, my body doesn't like it as much, ie, I don't seem to get the same energy level. 
The fat oxidizing was one of my biggest concerns, but maybe if I can create a air tight seal it would prevent oxidization but then with the airtight seal I would start to worry about botulism.
On the TV show "Medicine Men Go Wild," the twin British physicians were amazed by the health of the Chukchi people who ate little else than fermented walrus and whale fat and meat plus cooked walrus and whale organs and water.
Thanks, I'll look that up.

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General Discussion / Possible to ferment fat?
« on: February 20, 2010, 08:47:19 am »
 I was wondering if it was possible to ferment fats in order to make them predigested and hopefully more easily usable by the body. I've been trying to adapt to a high fat and meat diet for the past 4-5 months with not to good of results as of yet and was hoping that maybe fermented fats would be less of a burden on the body. So basically i was wondering if you guys think it's possible to ferment fat and does anyone think it would be a good idea  to do so? I can't seem to find really any info about doing it online other than fermented fish oil. But I think fermented fish oil is only called fermented because the livers are fermented to get the oil to be released and I'm not sure that the oil actually becomes fermented so I'm not sure that would work. So if anyone has any info please post it.

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Carnivorous / Zero Carb Approach / High meat video
« on: October 08, 2009, 09:07:49 pm »
Just wanted to share this video I recently found. This guy eats a lot of rotten/fermented foods along with high meats of various kinds. He seems to let the meat rot for longer than what people usually do but it seems to work well for him. Also its mentioned that he wrote a book about his diet, could be a interesting read. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIrFhfyrmS4&feature=player_embedded

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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: October 03, 2009, 08:36:14 pm »
I guess I was sort of preaching to the quire with that last post. And Van thanks for "introducing" me to Ron Rosedale so far what I have read from him is interesting.

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Journals / Re: Lex's Journal
« on: October 03, 2009, 09:50:50 am »
Hello Lex, I've got a question for you. Since earlier in your journal you stated that you read that approximately 58% of eaten protein will be converted into glucose aren't you certain that your current intake of of 85 grams protein will not be enough to meet your body's needs?
Or are you hoping that eating such a low amount of protein your body may be more likely to stop using glucose and converting protein to glucose for some of its energy? I'm asking this because if you could get your body to stop converting the protein so all of the protein went to repairing your body many good things would come from that. For instance many people on this diet would only need to eat about half the current amount of meat that they eat now which would be easier on the body plus it would of course cost less. Also it would keep your blood glucose lower. So do you think its possible to stop the conversion of protein to glucose or is that something that will always happen?
Edit:oh man I got stuck with the 666th post >D

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I found just eating what i felt like (on a carnivorous diet) was much healthier and easier to do compared to trying to measure out ratios of food. You are not a robot and your body will want different things every day. There is no such thing as doing the diet 'right', where when you hit the magic numbers you will turn into a superman. Get in touch with your intuition and instinct instead of the scales.
Yes i agree that I shouldnt get to technical about the whole thing. But I would like to eat a ratio of fat/protein that most people seem to think is the "correct" amount, at least at first. The first time I tried this I was eating way to much fat. So I would like to get a general figure of how much to eat at first and then just basically eyeball it after that. And if I start to feel like my body wants a different ratio then I will be more than happy to accommodate  it.

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Try using this dieting software.

http://spaz.ca/cronometer/
Lol yeah that software helped or it made things more complicated I'm not sure l). Typing into that software what I was planning out eating and how much of it I think I know what I was doing wrong. With my first calculations I did I didn't take into account the fat and water that was in the meat. Apparently 165 grams of protein will make up 30% of my daily required calorie intake. That sounds like a lot more protein than what is recommended for my weight,but I guess that's the correct amount. Also it sounds a little off that I'm now going to be eating 555 grams of meat and only 136 grams of suet but thats what that dieting calculator says. Lol I'm both more confident and not more confident that that's the correct amounts to eat, if that's at all possible. But I believe these measurements are correct but will continue to go over them and hopefully either find that they are correct or look into it further. Feel free to still offer any suggestions to if this looks right or wrong. Thank ya thank ya very much.

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 I'm trying to find out how much suet and meat I need to eat for a 70% fat to 30% protein mix. I currently weigh 140 pounds and am looking to get 2200 calories a day. If the information I picked up is correct then there are 854 calories to 3.5 ounces of suet and 200 calories in 3 ounces of meat. So If I ate 6.5 ounces of suet that would be 1550 calories from fat and if I would need to eat about 10 ounces of meat to get the remaining 660 calories. I think those calculations are correct but when I saw that I would only be getting 63 grams of protein a day from the 70/30 mix that seemed like to little especially considering I think I read in Lex's journal that about half of that protein would be turned into sugar. So I'm not sure if these would be the correct amounts to eat of fat/protein. If anyone can look the numbers over for me I would be very thankful for the help.

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 Those are all good suggestions and I'll probably try all of them out. I dove into this little adventure a little to fast without having much of a plan - :). The last thing I need to find out before I try this again is how to measure the correct fat to protein ratio. I would like to start out with a 70% fat to 30% protein. How would I correctly measure out the right amount? Do I simply just measure out to make it easy say 70 grams of suet to 30 grams of meat? I would like to consume a proximity 2200 calories in a day how would I figure out how much suet and how much meat I need to eat? Given that their are 854 calories to 3.5 ounces of suet and approximately 200 calories in 3 ounces of beef I believe I would need to eat about 1550 calories as suet and 660 calories as meat or 6.35 ounces of suet and 9.9 ounces of meat. Sorry for all the questions, I looked for most of the answers myself but I still feel like a direct question from me to people like yourselves who have experience in this would be a wise thing to do. Also I have some reading/writing -\ difficulties so if any of this post is hard to understand I'll try to clear up what I am trying to say if my questions don't make much sense.

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 Alright I guess I should have looked around the site to find other such questions as mine. And from reading other similar posts it seems that their isn't a huge difference between the taste of different fats(other than bone marrow). So I'm going to change my question a little bit. For anyone that had a hard time being able to get down fats did it change over time or has it not gotten any easier? I will try different fat sources but I guess if the other fats don't seem anymore palatable I'm going to continue to just eat fat and meat untill my body realizes that's all its going to get and hopefully it will adapt.

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Ah you live up to your name goodsamaritan, you often are first to answer and your posts are very informative. I will now defiantly try some other fats than the suet I was eating. The suet was appealing because I was getting as much as I would need for free. Hopefully they usually just toss out the muscle fat/bone marrow too so I can get that for free or cheaply(I'm cheap). For some reason I didn't even consider that other kinds of fat would be different tasting. And now that I'm thinking about other fats does anyone here have a opinion on the taste of hide fat. Thanks for the help again, for the first time in along while I feel like I'm on the right track.

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 Hello everyone, just a short background before I get to my question. For many years I've never felt healthy in many different ways and looking for a better diet I've decided this one makes a lot of sense. In eating zero carb for 4 days I can already notice a sense of well being developing. I am very dedicated already to stay with this way of eating,but my problem is I gag on the raw meat/raw fat. If anyone has any advice on how to get over the gagging please throw it my way. Thanks for any responses.

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General Discussion / Anyone here raise there own meat?
« on: August 05, 2009, 08:25:29 am »
  Hi everyone I'm new to eating raw and have a question. From reading around this forum it looks like people only buy the meat that they consume. I was wondering if anyone here raises there own meat? To me, raising my own meat would make more sense as long as its not to hard. It would cost less than buying meat,I could make sure the animals have a good life[you know up until I whack them in the head],and various other reasons. But if anyone here does raise the majority of there animals I would like to know what they do raise.

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