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It is horrible what they are doing. That said, now more than ever, this saying is spot on, "survival of the wisest"
The wise ones will never let anyone inject them with anything.

I guess there will be more than enough people running to get the vaccine, because of fear. The same ones that now are using a mask, and socially isolating, for sure.

It is slowly coming out in the media, how this lockdown makes people suffer. Especially the fragile, old, people in istitutions etc. They are not receiving the care they used to get and need, locked into their rooms, not able to meet anyone... and no one are asking them, do they want this?

This is absolutely inhumane!

Pretty scary what can be done to people by fear mongering. The best weapon ever if you ask me.
And this makes me think, they will not need to make the vaccine mandatory at all. They will not have enough of it, that is how many people will want to be injected.. that is my guess.... - out of the reality I am seeing now... people freaked out about a flu virus...

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there is something good to this crazy lockdown lasting longer! People get more and more aware what a bullshit it is and only to control us.
I thought it was a real threat first, and it made sense to protect the weak.... but after following the statistic and news for a while it became very clear to me that this virus is not what they say... or try to scare us in the media.

I am really curious how the reactions will be in the next week.
In germany too, the ICU beds are empty... nothing has happened of what they scared us to happen.
Okay, now they say, it is because we socially distanced! Hahaha... nah. Lets hope people are more intelligent than believing those lies :)

But honestly, several people in my every day life, the vets I work at, my dentist (I have went to him during the lockdown), my doctor (saw him as I was shopping) and my other boss that is in lockdown and cant open his restaurant where I work in, all these people see it as not the virus being a threat at all!


Meanwhile, I enjoy the sun outside on my terrace in bikini or naked all day long relaxing and imaging I am on vacatiol :) :)
Got to enjoy this as long as it last. Everything is very peaceful, air is so clear and clean :) :)
The birds are so happy and sing all the time :)
Nature for sure enjoys this break from pollution :)
I still have food to eat and a little money to buy food and water... I get everything as I normally get, fish, eggs, cheese, veggies anything.. no food shortage here.
I do feel for people living in the city. But I am sure we can all find something good to what is happening now :)

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I do talk to people I meet in my daily life about what you say above Derek.
There sure is an agenda behind this all.
But I have no issues getting the same food I did before, where I live. No food shortage of any sort, everything is plentful here. Maybe I am lucky. But this is a quite sparsely populated area, quite a lot of land and farmers around, might have to do with that too.....

I am not washing my hands more than before either. And I buy unpacked organic veggies from the store and eat them unwashed as I come home. I am not afraid of this virus.
But I spend all day in the sun, today 10 hours in bikini / naked. I am so tan already! Sun kills viruses :) :) this is my vaccine, I need nothing else

I am not stressing about what will happen tomorrow. It is impossible to know anyways. It is all so crazy!
But I do see how people let media fear them.
But at the same time, many think this is all ridiculous. At least where I live. I work at the vets still a few times/week, and we have not changed anything, no one there uses masks etc. They think it is all exaggerated. My dentist too! he said as I was there this week, this is natural selection, the too weak will die and that is normal with viruses.. and he sat back on his chair and we had a long chat.about politics, their agenda etc. lol It was really nice :) :)

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awesome, that sound like a great cure! Lets hope it goes mainstream and people do not have to suffer unnecessary....

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I am following too.. with a 5G map, and how the virus spread and how ill people get.
I am quite sure it has a lot to do with nnEMF/5G how bad it gets and how many end up in hospitals.
In a few weeks we will know more.
Interesting times.

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Health / Re: Just one more thing to be completely healed
« on: March 17, 2020, 03:09:40 pm »
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Lifestyle changes:
Sun bathing: Sun is your ally. Makes you sweat and detox. Give you energy. I don't know what else the sun does, but the sun has turned me from being mad and sad AF to be a controlled civilized individual.
Intermittent fasting: I only eat when It's daytime.

Love this :)
Sun really is a  magic healer, the very best one :) :)
I too only eat when sun is out. It feels very natural to do so. Not eating before sunrise and not  after sunset.

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: March 05, 2020, 06:08:34 pm »
Thanks Susa.
I am going to continue washing my hair with Ghassul because I really love it! But not going to let it sit on my skin, just rinse it off immediately.

I just realized I have been bathing in iron water for more than 6 years.

I have a rainbarrel I fill with water from the well on this property, it has too much iron to drink it. I take a hot shower and immediately get out and dip a minute or two in it. I do this practically every day. How much iron have I absorbed through my pores through these years! Oh man. How did I not think of this??
So many pieces to the puzzle.
I am going to fill the barrel with tap water, cost a little bit, but is very good quality here.

I am so glad I learned that iron absorbs through the skin.
I read studies about African tribes that get cancer on their feet soles because they walk barefoot on iron rich soil.... Imagine. Iron is a very potent poison when too much. Who would have thought.

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: March 05, 2020, 01:41:03 am »
Yes if you have high iron it is very possible it makes you hotter.

I also had a stressed(inflamed) feeling in my heart sometimes when taking longer hot showers, and iron can accumulate in the heart as well.
That feeling in the heart I describe above I have not had since I work on lowering my iron.

I wash my hair with ghassul clay since 10 yers or more, also my face. But I think the amount of iron varies in different clays? I tried to google it but could not find anything, except red clay might have high iron.

What sort of clay did you use?

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: March 01, 2020, 08:44:42 pm »
Susadele, what are your diet looking like lately? Have you been raw omnivore or carnivore last years, how long? How much meat did you consume, about/day?
Are you still having your period regularly, if, do you have greater or lesser blood loss?

Iron overload can send you into early menopause.
I wonder if that happened to me. My perimenopause symptoms started at maybe 41... with less regular periods. Now I have had a period only every three months or so last year or two. Had some sweating. Hot flashes. Overheat easily. No more overheating since stopping red meat and doing my iron lessening protocol.
Too much iron heats your body up too much.

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: March 01, 2020, 08:43:34 pm »
I only mention the effects of olive oil and egg white to bring awareness to natural methods of lowering iron instead of potentially harmful methods. I am not promoting to take rigidly care to consume 0 iron.

True, natural way is always best! I do that too. But I want it down faster. So I do IP6 too as long as I do not notice any bad effects. I am trying to be really aware of my body signals :)

If I would get phlebotomy I would choose that but doctors here does not order it except your ferritine is sky high. So I am not even going to ask. I go and donate blood instead, takes a little longer but in one year and 4 donations I will be at my goal.

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: March 01, 2020, 08:38:28 pm »
Susadele,
I hve now increased the IP6, and take 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening on empty belly. After the initial odd feeling, lightheaded, a little anxiety, the first 2 times, I have had zero issues anymore. In fact I feel really great.
I am going to continue taking 2000 mg/day and see how it goes. A week or so before donating blood next time I am going to stop it though. In 3 weeks, about. I might skip a day in between here and there too, read that could be a good idea.
I have been researching a lot about side effects of it but nothing I read has made me worried in my particular situation.

I have free access to as many oysters as I want, and they are full packed with minerals, so I eat them and they will replenish what I need I guess. Also seafood is a perfect food for balanced minerals. I rather have a small deficit in some mineral for a short while, than lots of excess iron making my organs rust.....

This is not for life time, but only until I get my ferritine down to about 30. The more i read about iron the more convinced I am that it is a very bad thing to have too much of. Just people do not talk about it much.

Dangers with a raw omnivore diet is, if one eats mainly fruit and raw meat, you might soon get way too much iron!
Fructose increases iron absorption, and then raw meat also is powerful for increasing iron in the body.
This can be a dangerous combo. Not need to be, but I would go and follow up regularly with ferritin/transferrin tests. Testing do not hurt.

Maybe that is why Halal meat was invented, and the odd rules that blood should not be consumed. Maybe it was to prevent iron overload.

Massai tribe who do drink raw blood, mix it with milk, and the calcium in milk prevents the iron absorption.

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Off Topic / Re: Former Vegan Turns (mostly raw) carnivore
« on: March 01, 2020, 08:15:40 pm »
I have done lamb balls and just did a smoothie with water and the balls cut up in pieces. I left the skin on, it will make for some clumps in the smoothie though. But I did not mind it I just swallowed them.

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Health / Re: Just one more thing to be completely healed
« on: March 01, 2020, 08:13:54 pm »
I have learned that too much iron accumulated in the liver/gallbladder and coming out in the intestines with the bile makes candida grow.
Another issue with too much iron.

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: March 01, 2020, 12:19:53 am »
Thanks for the feedback.
I can also imagine that iron overload often occurs in a context of liver problems or unbalanced nutrition (not enough copper, B2 etc.).

For some people this website might provide further interesting science based information:
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/91/5/1461S/4597424

One information might be especially important for Inger: You said you'll keep eating egg yolks (without egg white as far as I understood you). There's a protein in the egg white which inhibits iron absorbtion. And as nearly all of the iron is contained in the egg yolk, I'd eat the whole egg in an iron overload condition.

Susadele,
does cooked eggwhite still inhibit iron absorption?
I am doing the yolk raw for now and some whites cooked, not all though. I ditch some. I like to quickly sautee a big onion with herbs and maybe some mushrooms, just until a little soft, and then add the eggwhites and stir so it becomes a little like an omelette but was more onion and mushrooms that eggwhite. I pour some good quality olive oli on the top when ready. For vitamin E. And then I do the eggyolks raw.

My diet is right now looking pretty different than before christmas..lol
But it feels great and right. I just am going to eat mainly seafood until my next blood donation and the labs I am going to do after that to see how much I got my ferritine down.

Sure I did overdo it with raw muscle meat. I know. Probably I would not have run into issues if I had done bones with it. Like you do Derek.
After I get my ferritine down I am going to try out a different more broader approach, and also contonuing to doante blood so I can still eat lamb and Galloway :)

I do think heredity has a BIG impact in how much iron you absorb.

30% of my ancestors have extremely high iron absorption rate..... and it might be even more as this issue very often goes undiagnosed as doctors are often clueless what to look for. Also ferritine levels that are seen as "normal", "in range" are way too high, in reality.
My doctor said my vales were perfect! But they are way high.

I am going to get it down to maybe 30 or so, until then I am doing this strict regimen I do now
- IP6, donating blood as often as I am allowed to, no red meat but lots of seafood, oysters, herring etc. A little veggies here and there, more in spring and summer, as fat coconut oil and olive oil and eggyolks, some nuts. Lots of green tea, herbal tea, using herbs too. Raw sheep and goat cheeses for dessert to limit some iron uptake. Some dark chocolate/raw cacao. And regularly test my ferritine along the way.
Regular castor oil packs on my liver/belly :)
Also castor oil on face and neck (for wrinkles..;) )

Also other factors probably are at play. I think psychological stress will make your body do different things - as your organs and belly are not as relaxed having tons of emotional pain. Which is not good. I had tons of heart ache after my last relationship ended very abruptly. This might have had a big impact too.
Also that I easily over eat, being able to digest huge amounts of meat and fat... using it a little to feel comforted... and safe. Red meat makes me feel good and stable and gives tons of energy for sure. So I easily over ate it.

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 21, 2020, 01:14:29 am »
Sure, I wrote about the process I use on my website: A Tale of 100 Acorns. Let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you Eric, awesome :) :) I am going to try that! Can I gather acorns now? Or do it have as they fall to the ground in fall? There are still plenty on the ground here...

How do you prepaire the ready flour, do you cook it into porridge, if, how long do you cook it for, or can one just soak it and eat it raw?

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 20, 2020, 11:02:09 pm »
I took my first dosis of IP6 yesterday, and today again. Fasted, in the morning, 1 hour before breakfast.
2 pills, as iot says on the package. That is about 1000 mg/day.
I think it was too much, it made me a litte dizzy. I will take only one pill tomorrow and see how it goes. After all I donated blood recently and I might need to go slow because it does not happen over night that my body pulls the excess iron from the organs into the blood. It is a slow process... takes weeks or up to 2 months until the iron is back in the blood, that is why you have to keep 2 months between donations.

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 20, 2020, 12:45:40 am »
Wow.. Eric, I love that! We have tons of acorns here too... can you please share how you do it step by step so I can try it too?
I love local wild foods... they are just my favorite!

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 19, 2020, 10:00:01 pm »
@littleelefant I don´t know which supplements he recommends. You might find that info on his website https://therootcauseprotocol.com/about/morley-robbins/ There is his facebook group as well called https://www.facebook.com/groups/MagnesiumAdvocacy/ for sure they would know it. But he also mentioned the castor pack precisely for people that can´t donate due to their weight limitation. Another way to circumvent this would be to do the blood donation in a non public environment, privately or even at home.

Then of course you always have to be careful of any supplemental recommendations of any of these health advocates. There is no "guru" that knows it all. For example..he recommends cod liver oil, something that can be very dangerous. There is no health advocate I know of that seems to be right in everything they say. Be it Aajonus, GCB, Garrett Smith, Morley, Shawn Baker, Sally K. Norton, Dr. Berg... Always use ur own brain before taking any kind of supplements. I do believe that nature can provide us with most if not all of what we need, if our senses are working well and if you are able to connect with nature and yourself.

@dario I would recommend listening to these 2 podcasts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nofRzKj0UgA and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urk-i6RmSEI they give you a pretty good insight why iron is causing problems, why blood donation is good and how minerals such as copper first surfaced on planet earth.

I so agree on this! No one has everything right. We always need to think for our selves and try stuff out and use our intelligent amd listen to our bodies. We are all so different anyways, genetically, different climates, environments etc.

I have been looking into copper bioavailability and found some interesting stuff


https://www.rainbow.coop/library/copper-absorption-and-bioavailability/

https://paperity.org/p/95898724/copper-absorption-and-bioavailability

The article above said that rats got copper deficiency when fed raw meat. That was interesting.
And that cooking meat increases copper absorption. Okay we are not rats but it might be the same for humans. Who knows. Anyways it is very clear to me now that seafood is meant to be a large part of my diet :)
Also that ascorbic acid inhibits copper absorbtion. Wow... and there was a time I added ascorbic acid to my diet as a supplement because I thought it was a nice thing.. I did not notice anything though so I stopped it pretty fast. man that was not a great idea at all. Because it also helps iron absorption, thus increasing the mineral imbalance between copper and iron that I already had, and that anyone on a mainly muscle meat diet wil  eventually suffer from I think....

I am looking into naturally increasing copper because I am not going to supplement it. It is way too risky for me. I do not like supplements anyways, when it is possible to get it naturally. If I eat lots of seafood and oysters, I have a beautiful and great amount of copper in my diet, nicely balanced with other minerals  and bioavailable :) :)
I have been eating pretty much only seafood these last weeks for my protein, and I have to say it feels very right :)


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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 19, 2020, 09:51:40 pm »
Most of the meat I eat is red meat, mostly wild game (whitetail deer) mixed with pork back fat. I do not eat much actual meat, maybe a pound each day or a bit less. Most of my calories come from fat, or from acorns (I process acorns into flour and make a delicious, high-fat, high-fiber porridge from them).

Acorns? Wow.. that is interesting! I had no idea one could eat that :) Awesome :) How does it makes you feel, how does it digest?

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 19, 2020, 01:14:42 am »
Inger,

First of all, I think you are a very experienced and knowledgeable individual in the raw paleo lifestyle. I admire your courage in not being swayed by popular belief and in openly sharing a lifestyle that most think is dangerous to yourself and, to an extent, to those around you. Watching your videos and reading your posts always inspires me to continue pursuing this lifestyle, and your cheerful attitude often brings me joy on sad days.

However, I think here you may have been getting all worked up over something which may not even be an issue.

There are many reasons why a blood iron test can come up high, the main reason being if your diet is high in available iron, which it is. The question is not just about how much you absorb though, but how much your body stores and how much it eliminates, and why. It could be that your body has issues eliminating iron, but so far you seem to have little or no evidence that this is the case, other than a suspicion based not on real experience but on a lab test that could mean many things - and which even the doctors have no concerns about.

Some of your solutions to the problem seem fine and well - more seafood, less red meat could certainly be what's best for you.

I'm skeptical of the green tea being of help - this in effect works by impairing your digestion. Even if it works for the intended purpose, there are many side-effects of impairing digestion like that. Now if you enjoy green tea with your meals, and don't want to give it up, or perhaps you need the caffeine boost or want something warm to drink, that's another matter altogether, and I'm sure you can be healthy while including it. But to include it for health reasons seems counter-intuitive.

About blood donations, if you are doing this for humanitarian issues, that's fine and well. But to do this as a health practice seems bizarre to me. When you are injured and blood comes out, it hurts. Blood is designed to clot on contact with air so as to close the wound as soon as possible. Can you imagine paleo people willingly bleeding themselves on purpose and for enjoyment or as a form of medical practice? Bloodletting only came about in an age where most people were eating a very unnatural diet, based on grains, which would actually promote anemia. Even if bloodletting was an effective method for reducing iron in the blood, this would only be necessary if your body has a problem eliminating iron, since elimination is what you're doing. However, it seems to me that creating new blood, with the great nutritional and building requirements it has, simply for the sake of eliminating iron, puts a big strain on your body, and I believe it could in fact be much more likely to age you quickly. We know that things that destroy blood cells (as well as other cells), such as alcohol consumption, age us faster. Here you are technically destroying (or rather, eliminating) blood cells on purpose. While you don't have to deal with the cleanup of dead cells that would result from heavy alcohol consumption, you do have to deal with the big task of constantly replenishing your blood supply. Finally, all of that new blood requires iron to make. So when you do that, your body is more likely to hold on to iron. I would worry that continually doing this would set your body up for iron retention.

You said that you might have a genetic mutation for increased iron intake. When do you suppose this mutation came about? Scandinavian people aren't particularly known for a heavy grain dependence, since little grain can be grown there. If anything we would expect to find this mutation in people who relied heavily on grains and thus needed such increased iron absorption - therefore it would be most likely present mainly in people from northeast asia, and to a lesser extent india, the middle east and europe and central and south america.

About the vaccuum cleaning, it could simply be the EMF like you mentioned, or more likely still, the air you are breathing. House dust is not the same as dirt in nature. House dust is full of toxic elements that come off the walls, off all kinds of plastic and treated wood and paper; particles from all sorts of aerosol sprays including deodorant and even poison (bug spray), soaps and detergents and other chemicals used in cleaning, etc. When you vaccuum a house, many of those chemical toxins end up in your lungs, nostrils and general respiratory tract, as well as on your skin and your eyes. They are then absorbed to your bloodstream and your liver and kidneys have to process many of them. Perhaps you could wear a cottonmask for blocking some of the dust you breathe in while doing this task, and see if it improves the issue. If it does, you could also add protective goggles and clothes that expose as little skin as possible, and avoiding makeup (which can make the dust stick to your skin more easily)

As a side issue, I'm curious as to where you are sourcing your raw coconut oil, since almost all coconut oils are actually cooked, even if they say they're not.

Well,
do not ask me how that mutation happened, but it did. And it was in Ireland. Exactly where my ancestors come from.
This mutation also helped people survive when the black death came along. Because iron was hidden from the blood into the organs, people survived it. Because that bacteria or was it a virus(?) was feeding on iron!
So even if the blood does not have too much iron, it gets accumulated into the organs and bones(arthritis), and that is why it is hard to detect. There are many different degrees of it. And the mineral balance is so important too.

Donating blood is not dangerous as long as you follow up your blood values and eat nutrient rich food, which I do. So I am not at all worried. I have lots of energy. I feel like I have lots of "blood", enough to share... ;) :)
And it is mostly iron that is present in the blood, not other minerals. So it is the iron mostly that gets depleted, which I want.
I am confident that I am doing something good for me, and if it is not, I am not doing anything risky, I am under the doctors supervision, I can only give blood 4 times/year. Also I continue eating lots of animal foods raw, just not red meat, and if, very limited amounts.

I will do frequent blood testing too, to check where I am going. :)

PS. Bleeding is not a dangerous thing at all. People have always got injuries, and bleed, also women bleed through their period, and childbirth etc etc. Of course excess bleeding can kill you, but I am doing it very moderately - not doing phlebotomies on myself or anything like that ;)


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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 19, 2020, 01:06:54 am »
My diet changes with the seasons (I live in Vermont, USA). Summers I eat more foraged plants and some purchased organic veg, including berries. Winters I am nearly carnivore, but do eat some root vegetables and sometimes rice and mushrooms. I am not totally raw, and do not try to be. I do eat a lot of raw foods, but also see value in eating certain cooked foods. I work out a lot, so worry I would have trouble getting enough calories if I only ate raw, which I find very filling. I struggle to eat more than 2,000 kcal per day when eating only raw foods, and ideally need to eat 2,500 kcal+ on workout days to meet my needs.
This is about exactly as I eat too, Eric! I too eat seasonal carbs in summer :) but I could do better with that.... Next summer I am going to add in a little more of them. Carnivore is just so easy for me to do, that is.
I can easily eat 3000 calories as raw carnivore. And I weigh only 55 kg. I can digest it just fine. But it might make me gain some weight. If I do around 2000 calories I keep the same weight. Me cooking is not the issue because I cant get in enough food raw, but rather because I cant always source fresh fish that I like raw. If I do not have osyters, that is. And in winter I have way less oysters because of the harsh weather.

How much red meat have you been eating, about, the last years? I have had at least a pound of raw beef or lamb every day. Often even more.

I think there is the issue.
Plus the sheep balls.
Plus not having my period much often anymore.

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 18, 2020, 03:13:09 am »
All very fascinating. I eat a very diverse diet, not just animal-derived foods, so have never seen any symptoms of iron overload (or deficiency).

Eric, would you share with me what your diet consist of, mostly? And how are you doing so far?
Do you do some cooked stuff too? I do... I cook wild caught salmon, or cod.. and mussles.. and shrimp. I do eat a lot raw though. But not everything.
I might have to start cooking my meat a little when I start eating it again, because it makes the iron less absorbable. I do not want it though, because I really love the taste of raw meat. Lets see how fast I get my iron to drop ;) :) Or I will take some natural phytates with raw meat, like sesame seeds, or maybe some raw dairy with it, dairy also prevent some of the iron absorption, as do certain herbs.

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 18, 2020, 03:09:12 am »
Hi Inger,

thats interresting, me as well I suspect having an Iron overload now. I went carnivore for a while, mostly galloway meat, no veggies any more and not a lot of fat, supplementing with Vitamin C with increases iron absorbtion, and started feeling more and more sick. Tomorrow i m going to the doktor for bloodtests. I feel a bit at a lost in what to eat now, so I eat very littel animal protein but lots of fibrous vegetables, nuts and seeds but I m very tired now. I found out about the IP6 as well, already ordered it. How much are you going to take?

Hi Little Elefant :)
wow that is interesting. Please let me know what your bloodtest shows!
I am not sure yet how much to take, i read someone with iron overload was taking 2000 mg/day, a male though. I might go with 1000 mg and maybe every other day? I need to research a little more about it. Will recieve my IP6 at wendmesday I think. I am so curious how it will work out... :)

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 16, 2020, 09:46:35 pm »
"Testosterone replacement therapy supresses a hormone called hepcidin responsible for regulating iron absorption. So you are absorbing more iron..."

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/my-experiment-with-ip6-iron-chelator.17623/

Found this as I googled IP6.
Holy moly... more pieces coming on their place!! I was drinking lots of sheep ball smoothies a 2-3 years ago.......OMG
I stopped, because I realized it gave me too much testosterone - I got body signs of it.
But still it might have added to the iron issue...

errr.... biohacking gone wrong  ???

I did buy me some IP6, seems to be a great way to lower iron. I am going to do it in addition to the donating blood every 2-3 months. That should bring my iron levels pretty fast to a good level :)
 

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General Discussion / Re: Iron overload on raw meat diet
« on: February 16, 2020, 06:28:06 pm »
This was an interesting read;
 
http://www.hepatitiscfree.com/messages/2003/aug8b-info2003.htm

Dietary Iron Control

Various dietary practices can help control iron levels. In a relatively short period of time, dietary changes can result in anemia, iron overload or an ideal state of iron control. Anemia can be induced in about 120 days, while symptoms of iron overload can come on in just 60 days.

Humans absorb only a fraction of the iron they consume, but there are many controlling factors.20 Iron absorption rates from food vary widely, from less than 1 percent to nearly 100 percent.21 Cooks who use iron or stainless steel pots increase the amount of iron they consume.22 Generally, iron in plant foods is not as well absorbed as iron from meat: Only 5 percent of iron in plant foods is available, vs. 30 to 50 percent of iron from meat.23 Olive oil and spices such as anise, caraway, cumin, licorice and mint promote iron absorption,24 while antacids, eggs and soy reduce availability.25 Since dairy products contain lactoferrin, milk also inhibits the absorption of iron.26 Moderate alcohol consumption is unlikely to pose a problem with iron absorption, but excessive amounts of alcohol is associated with iron overload, particularly in adult males.27

Vitamin C also increases iron absorption.28 However, there is no evidence that vitamin C leads to iron overload. Thus vitamin C should not be avoided by meat-eaters for this reason, since studies show high-dose vitamin C supplements are associated with a decreased risk for heart disease, cancer, cataracts and other disorders.29 A vegetarian diet does not generally cause iron-deficiency anemia because there is more vitamin C in plant-food diets, which enhances absorption.30

A 1982 human study was conducted to assess the effect of various drinks on iron absorption. A subject ate a standard meal of a hamburger, string beans, mashed potatoes and water. When green tea was drunk instead of water, iron absorption was reduced by 62 percent. Coffee reduced iron absorption by 35 percent, whereas orange juice (as a source of vitamin C) increased absorption by 85 percent. Contrary to other studies, milk and beer had no significant effect.31

Bioflavonoids (found in berries, coffee, green tea, pine bark, quercetin and the rind of citrus fruits, particularly blueberry, cranberry, elderberry and grape seed) and phytic acid (a component of whole grains and seeds such as sesame) bind to iron and other minerals in the gastric tract and help to limit iron availability. If bioflavonoids and phytic acid haven't bound to minerals in the digestive tract they will get into the bloodstream, where they can bind to free iron, acting as blood-cleansing iron chelators. Therefore, maximum iron chelation in the blood circulation is achieved when these iron binders are consumed apart from meals.

Phytic acid--also called inositol hexaphosphate, or IP6--is comprised of six phosphorus molecules and one molecule of inositol. It has been mistakenly described for decades as an "anti-nutrient" because it impairs mineral absorption. However, in the 1980s food biochemist Ernst Graf, Ph.D., began to tout phytic acid for its beneficial antioxidant properties achieved through mineral chelation.32

Phytic acid in foods or bran should be distinguished from supplemental phytic acid, which is derived from rice bran extract. In foods, phytic acid binds to iron and other minerals in the digestive tract and may interfere with mineral absorption. As a purified extract of rice bran, taken between meals so it will not bind to minerals in the digestive tract, phytic acid is readily absorbed into the bloodstream, where it acts as a potent mineral chelator.33 Phytic acid binds to any free iron or other minerals (even heavy metals such as mercury, lead and cadmium) in the blood, which are then eliminated through the kidneys. Phytic acid removes only excess or unbound minerals, not mineral ions already attached to proteins.

Phytic acid is such a potent--but safe--iron and mineral chelator that it may someday replace intravenous chelation therapy such as the mineral-chelator EDTA or iron-binding drugs such as desferrioxamine (Desferal). Because of its ability to bind to iron and block iron-driven hydroxyl radical generation (water-based) as well as suppress lipid peroxidation (fat-based), phytic acid has been used successfully as an antioxidant food preservative.34

Phytic acid supplements should not be taken during pregnancy since the developing fetus requires minerals for proper development. Because aspirin causes a small loss of blood and consequently helps to control iron levels, the simultaneous use of phytic acid with a daily aspirin tablet is not advised. A three-month course of phytic acid should achieve adequate iron chelation, and prolonged daily supplementation may lead to iron-deficiency anemia. Anemic individuals who take phytic acid as a food supplement are likely to feel weak shortly after consumption, whereas iron-overloaded individuals are likely to feel increased energy.

For those at risk for iron overload, it may be wise to avoid iron in multivitamins and shun fortified foods that provide more than 25 percent of the recommended daily intake for iron. No doctor should prescribe iron tablets for patients who complain of fatigue without blood tests and a thorough health history. Iron-rich foods such as red meat and molasses may prevent anemia and build strength during the growing years but in adulthood may lead to iron overload among men and postmenopausal women. Those individuals who learn how to achieve iron balance will maintain the most desirable state of health throughout life.

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