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As I said, when I started getting problems I added in every raw paleo food and nothing helped; however, cooking my food did help. If RPD is so great and healing, then I should have healed from my 'ZC' problems(if that's what they were) on that, no? Besides... PaleoPhil seems to think that by 'zero carb' I meant muscle meat only, no... I meant animal foods only, including liver, kidneys, brain, heart, marrow, fat, etc... And once the problems with this started outweighing the benefits I straight away started adding all other raw paleo foods(raw fruits and veg first), as I said, and this didn't make me better.

I'm not suggesting people can't survive on rpd, and not have debilitating health problems. The Eskimos ate largely RPD, I guess because there is no wood in the arctic and blubber is too valuable to use for much cooking, though no other hunter-gather in recorded history seems to have eaten RPD. Anyway, clearly people can be healthy on RPD, and clearly people can become healthier than they were before, but does this mean they could not be healthier with the right cooked food? I don't know, I doubt they tried Paul Jaminet's PHD for example.

It's possible RPD may be an effective therapeutic diet for certain conditions, like how VLC diets are used for epilepsy, but the latter does not seem to be a good diet long-term and perhaps RPD is not either. I don't know.

Anyway, from my experience RPD is no good for me. PaleoPhil, I have actually recently started eating along the lines of the PHD.

When I was doing the RPD, there were many people doing this ZC/animal foods only/a few berries/one piece of fruit a day type thing. There was Lex Rooker; PaleoPhil; TylerDurden; KlowCarb; Sully; Ioanna; Inger; RawRose; Raw; Magnetic; Hannibal; KD; etc etc etc, more than half of the people were doing ZC/VLC diet. Pretty much everyone spent most time talking about the diet of the eskimoes also, I guess because they are the only culture in recorded history eating mostly RPD.

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aLptHW4k4y, I have no interest in going back to eating any kind of raw food diet, I've flogged that experiment to death.

GS, I'm male aged 20. I was zero carb for ~6 months, for my start of RPD, but then afterwards I tried ZC again several times for shorter periods... I got grass-fed meats from the local butcher, and sometimes ordered from a farm. Aside from a few exceptions it was always fresh. When I ate frozen meat I ate it without thawing, so the damage to the meat would not matter.

Oh yes, I also tried hang aging, jar aging, raw honey/honey comb, raw milk and raw cheese. I tried everything.

I came to RPD with mild acne and getting inflammation too easily in my muscles/joints during sport, mild hyper-inflammatory reaction you could say. But, this was eating a very unhealthy version of cooked paleo diet(burnt 20% fat mince meat cooked in the oven, fruit, canned corned beef/spam etc - I basically had mild gout), and before that whole grains un-soaked, with fat-free canned tuna etc, no vegetables, maybe just tomato sauce or something, and wholegrain muesli with dried fruits/nuts(with which I had mild IBS and slightly worse inflammation elsewhere), I never tried regular healthy eating because I didn't know what it was. Eating RPD cured me of inflammation, but at the sake of giving me many more new problems that were much(infinitely) worse than the inflammation. I got on fine before RPD, just not optimally... If I'd just eaten a regular healthy diet/healthy paleo diet I could've cured my inflammation without getting the other problems...

Before RPD I was on a college boxing program, I did well in college, did well in boxing, did OK socially, but I wasn't performing the best I could because of the inflammation, so I just wanted to do something to improve that. After eating RPD I fell out of college and became a recluse because of my new maladies... I didn't just go back to eating how I did before when things started going wrong because I didn't want to go back to getting inflammation, I wanted to move forward, and I was sure RPD was the way so I stuck with it, and like a good captain I went down with my RPD ship. I really had to exhaust every possibility before I could accept RPD was no good for me.

Another thing that happened on RPD was that I stopped growing, and my facial/body hair stopped spreading. Both of these processes have now resumed since adopting a healthy cooked diet.

I also had very poor circulation on RPD, and I developed varicoceles... One of those had now healed/disappeared, but unfortunately the other has not yet - hopefully that will follow in time.

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I was eating raw grass-fed meats, including organs, bone-marrow and fat, mainly from beef and lamb, but also some wild boar, venison, pheasants etc. This was my diet at the beginning of RPD, then as I was falling apart I tried every other combination with raw veg, herbs, fruits, nuts, cheeses, adding in herbal teas, sea salt, bits of cooked food etc and then giving up on RPD entirely as nothing helped - I still just got worse. I drank spring water, as well as getting plenty of sunshine and physical activity/exercise. I tried all the combinations: more fat, less fat, more organs, different and unusual organs, fasting, etc etc, tried more fruit, less fruit, berries, etc... everything people suggest here when people are having problems, none of it helped. I was doing this for over a year so I went through everything. I did not smoke, drink alcohol or tea & coffee etc... Nor do I now, nor did I beforehand. I also didn't 'cheat', at all.

I only started to recover at all when I stopped eating RPD(and started eating traditionally prepared food)... But the recovery is slow.

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I tried eating RPD for a bit, and it eliminated the inflammation which I'd previously been suffering from immediately. However, I also experienced a lack of energy, slow digestion, muscle cramps, sleeplessness and bad odour. I stuck with the diet however(for 1-2 years), as it had stopped my inflammation after all, and I hoped the new problems would go away in time. However, they just got worse, and after a few months my digestion ground to a halt, my body stopped recovering from physical activity, and I started to get rashes and diarrhoea, as well as debilitating brain fog(the worst of all, as my intellect was my most cherished attribute), and that's probably leaving a few out. I tried everything within the scope of RPD to address these problems but nothing worked and eventually I quit, a wreck.

I'm now eating a healthy diet based on cooked food, along the lines of a paleo template/nourishing traditions diet. My inflammation has not returned, but I'm stuck slowly(at best) recovering from these maladies I picked up on RPD.

I think, if I'd learned to eat a healthy cooked paleo-template/nourishing traditions diet(proper, traditional preparation of foods), before going into RPD, I would've got rid of my inflammation without suffering from all these other problems I'm now plagued with. I never learned how to cook healthy food and was not fed healthy food(cooked or otherwise) by my parents. So, I went from eating absolute garbage, to eating just raw fruits, cheese, nuts and cooked meats, to eating RPD, without ever trying a regular healthy diet in between, as I didn't know what one was - I just went straight into eating a shoddy approximation of the paleo idea because it made sense to me, and I didn't have to know how to cook.

Anyway, I'm not here to complain as I did everything by my own choice, I'm just now interested to know if anyone else has had similar experiences with RPD and has just assumed that they're alone, or for other reasons been afraid to mention it.

Has anyone else tried RPD, stuck with it due to some positive results, and then ended up with a load of new problems? Perhaps you quit, or perhaps you're still struggling along hoping it will get better. Similarly, I'm interested to hear from anyone who has had absolutely no negative consequences from eating RPD whatsoever, or perhaps you have had a few problems but feel they are so vastly outweighed by the positives that you don't care, or you are happy to accept them.

Whatever your situation I look forward to hearing from you, and I hope that knowledge of my own experience may benefit some people too.

Regards,

Des.

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