hey pelham if you're going to be eating at home you could just use your hands and teeth/mouth. Of course it's different if you're not..

raw-al, just buy those organs in really tiny quantities, so you don't have to worry about wasting a load. Try it completely fresh the day you buy it, try it slowly, look at it/examine it and smell it, taste a tiny amount and get comfortable with it... Try some more etc... Also... you said you hardly eat any meat. Imagine an animal which would have the same amount of muscle as what you eat, then imagine the size of the other organs that animal would have. There is also that the balance of nutrition is spread across different parts of the animal, so if you're having an organ which is high in some nutrients but not others, if you haven't had the other parts(organs/glands etc..) that may be another reason for you not enjoying it.

ahh thanks man,  But what do you mean buying in small quantities like have the butcher cut it like that, The only way i can get it would be frozen though I like your mindset on eating it. Like a wild ritual of eating. But no i won't be home really in a dorm on base cause i'm in the air force. So I guess i'll have it frozen, defrost it the night before, wake up lift come back eat a few slivers with raw eggs and head to work. i'm interested in the iron and vitamin A plus the really digestible protein liver has to offer.

Hi everybody,

I'm not raw paleo, although it would be cool. I currently want to buy some raw organic beef liver to eat raw. I'm interested in its nutrition to use for my athletic and bodybuilding goals. What would be a good way to prepare or cut it to eat it in like 5 seconds in the morning after my workout. Before I have to show up for work. 

anythoughts or ideas much appreciated

A barbell deadlift isn't that natural, functional yes. It trains your body and muscle groups in a functional synergistic manner, but natural  I don't think so. Going to the core element of natural would be to do what sully is describing as what he does. But I think that functional exercises like the ab wheel could add a lot of merit to someone wanting to stay purely natural. Afterall , it may not be natural but your abs were designed to move that way and it does create adaptations, as well as a extrememly strong functional core.

quote "Your right, I am concentrating on more natural movements. Which is why I don't like the ab wheel. My point is, natural movements will strengthen your abs to where they need to be. I want a natural development in muscles. A natural ratio of mass and strength in certain areas."

I like your stance on using natural movements especially realizing that squats and deadlifts build strong cores. But the thought of a ab wheel is not natural movement is erroneus, the abs were designed to resist spinal hyperextension. which is what the ab wheel does. crunches with improper form is what isn't natural because the spine needs to have higher stability to mobility ratio.  The ab wheel is great and I beleive a functional exercise along with planks, and turkish get ups. But for purely asthetic reasons weight crunches on an ab machine are also good to add along with your squats and deadlifts assuming your nutrition is dialed in.

I've just recently bought recipe for living without disease, I think it's a great read with a lot of new information but most of it I knew just from reading here and searching the internet. The book does lack a lot of scientific credibility, in the book he references a few scientific studies, but alot of the times he says just from his observations. for example he says water isn't cellular usable, only the water from milk , or vegetable juice, and the raw meats are 90 percent cellular usable while water actually leeches nutrients from the body. I know this is true if too much water is consumed, but he doesn't provide any scientific ground to support his statement. He just says that fats are what lubricate and hydrate the body. This does make sense in my mind but how do you guys feel about just plain water?. I mean Its better that soda, and probaly better than pasteurized milk, I'm not talking about city water but water from a well.