You are right about bent over rows but the problem is, it is a great multi joint compound lift and it is a very natural movement. Do you know Brooks Kubic? He's an intelligent powerlifter and strength trainer. I listened to a whole lecture by him on the importance of the back because it is the strongest muscle other than legs. He claims that any exercise with the feet on the ground while using the back, like rows is the most natural of movements and allows one to generate the most force and work many muscle groups.

My problem is I just dont know how to row without momentum. I saw that some people let the bar touch the ground with every rep, making it harder to use momentum. I may try this with my next workout. You are right on target with switching up the order of my exercises man. I am now stagnant on chins, getting only 7 reps each workout and its been about 3 weeks straight of this with very little progress. Do you think that cycling rows/pullovers before and after chins is a good way to make my chins/ back stronger. In other words, if I did either rows or pullovers before chins for a while, then switched back to chins before pullovers, wouldnt I get stronger this way. I used to do stuff like this in the past. I would place squats at the end of my workout if I wanted to get stronger in them. I would prefatigue my legs, then squat at the end. After a month or two I would go back to squatting first in my workout and I would gain a significant amount of strength.

I feel that this program works, but when there are plateaus, one may need to just change the order of the exercises to get results again. My squats are getting stronger every week with ease so I would not put them at the end of my workout til I started to plateau in them. Any thoughts???

Well, I dont really know and direct or indirect action of the coconut oil taking effect on thyroid, I have not read that far yet. I do know that it may have something to do with both the medium and short chain triglycerides providing direct thyroid energy and the fact that it is the highest source of saturated fat in nature being about 97%, therefore a PUFA/estrogen/inflammation antagonist. It is also being used in cancer clinics as an anti angiogenesis drug in the form of MCT's that prevent estrogen from causing angiogenesis of tumors.

I know those workouts man. You give so much on the first 7 exercises that the deadlift just isn't possible anymore. Very good means the intensity was very high! You are making good progress man. Nice to see that the presses are going up fast on the new rep ranges. If you wouldn't have lowered those you would still be doing 3-4 reps with the same weight. You're gonna be big! Bw gone up much yet?

Thanks alot man I owe you big time. I have never been this strong in squats before and I know thats really what matters. My BW has gone up 5 lbs from 165 to 170lbs which is good, but I would really like to be in the 190 range. I know that diet plays the biggest role here. Been reading a lot of ray peat lately and am going to utilize some of his philosophies during fall season to pack on 20 lbs.

Right now I am eating 1.5-2lbs raw beef a day, 1 quart of raw milk, a few pieces of fruit, and 4 oz of raw beef fat, I have remained the same weight for about a month so I know if I want to gain, Im gonna have to up something, and it wont be meat because of how expensive it is so Im thinking add some coconut oil and some more raw milk.

nice workout man! Another factor in the dips may be that you did 8 presses this time. This might have exhausted the triceps and pecs a bit more than you are used to.Making good progress keep it up!

True man, but its for sure that the rings that hang further are wayyy harder. It kind of makes me excited because now I get to work with a more challenging set of rings, which makes the exercise harder and better for muscle and building even strength and size in the triceps and pecs/shoulders. Rings get all of the stabilizers as well.

Pioneer,

Do you think it is ok to eat fish?  What is the PUFA content like in fish?

The PUFA content in fish is high and if you follow any biochemistry, it will cause a switch over from glucose oxidation to fatty acid oxidation. I know the philosophy doesnt make sense, but this has been shown to be true, and not only in vitro.

However, dont take my word for it, I am no genius, nor am I an expert, I just know some biochem and animals other than  red meat, esp pork will have too high a PUFA content and affect thyroid function.

Anybody eat raw deer/venison. I was talking to a hunter who ate raw grassfed cow/cattle but said he would never eat raw deer/venison because of parasite issues being a wild animal. I think this is just bullshit though. Just thought I'd ask for others' experiences.

Wednesday:

squat ATG:            275lb 9 reps
Calf raise 1 leg:       60lb 10 reps each
Chins:                     80lb 6 reps (almost 7)
Overhead Press:      125lb 3 reps (WTF sucks)
Bent row:               185lb 8 reps
Ring Dips:                80lb 5 reps
Deadlift:                  305  6 reps

yeah sounds fun. I do something similar but clearly not the same. I'll certainly give it a shot soon. I'm moving to a new place that has a gym in the building which is going to be SWEET. Its small and likely i'll be there by myself most times so I can do crazier stuff. Most guys at Golds have never seen a power clean and therefore just walk up all close to me while i'm about to violently throw steel in the air...CF is crazy in its own way and 'high intensity' but yeah this sounds worth experimenting with.

I assume you are always doing your absolute max in reps for those lifts? makes sense to me to do that combined with the occasional 3s, or 1s at max perhaps...

I did 8 weighted dips with a 75 lb hanging dumbbell today.. that was probably a PR. rings would have killed me.

Yeah, the rings are tough, but it doesnt take that long to get used to them. It really is all balance and after some discipline using them often, all the stabilizer muscles get used to it.

in regards to the question..its possible that some women today have less sex drive but not something i've experienced much. Although I wasn't around years ago it seems like alot of arguments suggest people are overstimulated into having/desiring more sex by both society and 'toxins' or whatever..which I think is generalizing. Certainly since sex is a major source of pleasure itself theres all sorts of potential for it to be over or under-active to fulfill some need or be absent due to physical issues or traumas of other kinds.

If you hadn't said you have had no actual intercourse and that she was a virgin I might be on board..but it sounds very much some kind of psychology around the issue. Never had sex with a virgin myself, but certainly if there is any kind of build up or pressure in a situation it makes things more challenging in the physical in my experience. It might be a matter of some of the..uh..'work' above but I think its going to be more a matter of convincing the mind that either your bond is genuine..or that she should just get over these hangups and try something very normal with someone she trusts. If you continue with this person I can only guess sex will be more enjoyable. If after 10 or so times you still have dry patches (sorry) then maybe troubleshoot her diet etc...

I personally am for better or worse not a virgin, and maybe with my experience I intimidate her, but I am a good guy and am pretty patient. I reassure her that everything is okay and when she's ready is best for the both of us. I try really hard to not give her any pressure. And to be honest, this girl is the coolest girl Ive ever hung out with. I really enjoy spending time with her and she feels the same way about me. Totally the opposite of superficial and respects a strong man with character, which is what women should respect.

Yeah, foreplay is hugely important.

I also recommend the book "hot sex" to really lay things out and look at it from several different vantage points.

Also having been raised in a fundamental baptist household where sex has a very rigidly defined purpose and outside of marriage is sinful, I can tell you that it really weighs on your psyche. I'm guessing you're well aware of that since I recall you saying that you are or were christian. And my current girlfriend who is quite the nymph still struggles with guilt to this day. I certainly did until I started eradicating my limiting beliefs, but I had to wipe Judeo Christianity from my mind as a possibility before I could fully immerse myself in the sexual experience.

The mind/psyche is a huge part of sexual relations, and controls a lot of the body's biochemical processes. So if she's not getting wet, I would start with the mind. Really have her flesh out her feelings about sex. Have her write them down and try to determine if there are any unhealthy beliefs contained within. We are sexual creatures, all creatures are (with some exception of course! black tip sharks, et al), sex is a gift and a good and wonderful thing. It is pleasurable, life affirming, and from our point of view, really doesn't involve disease as long as all parties are living heathfully (proper foods, healthy minds). To see it as something 'other', or sinful, or private is, if you look closely at history, simply a product of human reason/belief systems getting in the way and seeking to control people.

I cannot recommend that book enough. Ejaculation/orgasm should not be the end goal. The whole entire experience from the anticipation all the way through should be viewed equally importantly. You should be able to spend hours on occasions in touching and kissing and massages, oral and manual stimulation, with toys and role play, etc. It should be an adventure each time, and it only ever grows old if you approach it the same way on every occasion.

Being relaxed is a huge part of it too, stress can absolutely murder the experience. Massages, aromatherapy, mood lighting, and perhaps a little meditation (breathing out the worries and daily responsibilities) can be all it takes to make the experience a good one.

Can we assume you're both sexually attracted to eachother? I've dated girls who I could have fun with and be best friends with but was not attracted to, and that does not exactly facilitate arousal!

Also don't focus on this problem in the sense that you're stressing out about it, you will give it power. Instead, seek to remedy it, but in the mean time, just use a natural lubricant and keep her well lubed up, lubrication will make or break the experience, the difference between smooth gliding and sandpaper (which may be uncomfortable for us fellas, but is pure hell for the ladies).

Try bringing her to orgasm several times manually or orally before actual intercourse. Or try bringing her to orgasm first, then a short period of penetration then back to manual/and or oral. She can use a vibrator on her clitoris during penetration as well, this will help immensely with the added bonus that she'll probably experience multiple orgasms and perhaps female ejaculation. However try not to become dependent on this, it should be used for augmentation, not the center of the experience.

Women are incredibly sexual creatures, I'd say more than even us fellas, which maybe runs contrary to popular opinion, maybe not. And though I do believe our modern day habits of harried schedules, ubiquitous vectors of toxicity and religious dogma/societal mores have a huge impact on both sex's libito, I would not say women specifically are less sexual than their forebears.

Good luck, and that book can be found on audiobook (a pleasure to listen to) via torrent or purchased obviously.

The problem with religion today is it's constant misunderstandings and misunderstood limitations. I feel that it was way easier and much more appropriate back in the day to "wait til marriage" because during Jesus' time etc... people got married in their mid and late teens, just when their sexual urges begin. This is also not to mention that people got married months, sometimes weeks after they start their relationships. I feel that starting a marriage at this time is obviously not a good idea in today's day in age because people are just way more immature than back then. However back in those times it would have been very healthy, and possibly easier to maintain a healthy marriage due to the fact that everything happens when it should. Nowadays we have plenty of christian and other religious couples who are very frustrated because they are ignoring/ dismissing their sexuality and urges. This creates tension and frustration which IMO is not a healthy way to start a relationship/marriage. I feel that it is great showing each other you can wait for a long time for each other if that is what you want to do. If anything, waiting for sex with the one you love is a show of patience, dependability, and faithfulness. However, in all practicality, with most relationships of today lasting at least a couple years before marriage, it just isnt a wise idea.

Am I christian? Yes. Do I feel that a man should be with only one woman? Yes, and they should be faithful to each other. I also feel that if you find the right person you don't need to wait to have sex. I have spoken with many pastures who on the fence about this topic because, its just as bad when two people have a shit marriage and end up getting a divorce because they waited for sex and never found out they weren't compatible sexually. These are my beliefs and opinions, as I respect those of others.

hello, I thought with the new post of grandma's being stronger, I would also add a post questioning a huge concern of mine. It is no doubt that with the increase of exogenous estrogens in our environment, accompanied with other hormonal disruptors, men have become worse in both libido and sexual function than ever before. However, now that I have been in a relationship with a girl that I love for almost 8 months, I am realizing that she too seems to have a very low sex drive. I love this girl very much and we both established that while sex is a very important aspect of our relationship, it is not the foundation. Anyway, I try so hard with my girl to "get her" to want to have sex with me and she has a hard time "getting wet" for sex that it is very frustrating for both of us.

Now either she is lying, or something is really wrong with her, but when I probe her questions such as "can I do anything to help you improve this," or "is it something with me that is the problem," she tells me that everything is great with me and that she thinks I am very sexy. She is always complimenting me on my physique and how good I look with very little, if any, clothing. Problem is, she never asks for any sex (or sexual acts), never offers any, and seems to try to change the subject when I ask her. I have been getting very frustrated lately as I feel a healthy relationship should be when both partners want sex, not just one. Problem is, every time I ask her she tells me that she really wants to have sex. I am at a loss for words.

Oh yeah and I failed to mention that she is a virgin with a mother that is a strict catholic, which has its pitfalls. My girlfriend and I have talked about having sex many times and she says that she really wants to do it with me. She says she doesnt buy into all that no sex before marriage balogna that homosexual priests preach.

However, when we "attempt to" she seems to get all scared, and she is not physically or psychologically ready for it. Many times, this drove me to feel very uncomfortable, and even guilty to the point where I even lost an erection over it. We are both 20 years old and should not have any problems.

Now, if this is a low sex drive issue, I dont want to give up on her because I myself have had low testosterone and low sex drive in the past but in the past year took my T and sex drive waaaayyy up and regularly feel urges and want sex all the time. Since I have reawakened I want to put myself to good use.

Anyways, enough talk about my issues. I dont expect anyone behind a computer screen to really help me anyway. My real question goes out to both guys and gals on the forum; Do women have lower sex drives than they used to? What is the cause of low female libido in her young years.

It is obvious what the cause is after menopause= low testosterone/ healthy estrogen ratio /progesterone/dopamine

To me it just seems wrong for any woman to experience low sex drive in her young years where she should be reproducing. Thoughts???

Wednesday:
Squat ATG:         265lb x10
1 leg calf raises:   50lb x15
chin ups;             80lb x6
Press:                125lb x5
Bent Row:          180lb x8
Ring Dip;            75lb  x8
Deadlift;            295    x6

Workout time=27 minutes 30 seconds