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General Discussion / Participants needed!
« Last post by ellamayes on February 13, 2024, 07:57:14 pm »
Hello!

My name is Ella, and I am currently writing my dissertation as part of my final year at Durham University, focusing on the paleo diet! I am recruiting volunteers to take part in a short questionnaire, that will take you no longer than 15 minutes to complete. The questions will ask about your knowledge of the paleo diet and your experience implementing it into your daily life. The one simple criterion is that you need to be following or have followed the paleo diet for at least two months. If this is you and you would like to get involved, please click the link below to take you to the google form, which will provide more information and a consent form before getting started! Thank you in advance!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd5SJ_TvhOfySNs6W0WRB_1NGVFMraCG-GrPulFPQLvKsuWwA/viewform?usp=sf_link
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Off Topic / Re: 8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man
« Last post by TnMann on January 30, 2024, 05:20:12 am »
Monogamy is, if thinking in terms of game theory for quality of family life, the optimal solution for society: most players win with this model with minimal harm.

However, if thinking in terms of nature, polygamy is better suited.
Polygamy is if our natural instincts are allowed to play out. The best genetics reproduce the most. So more and more children are born either beautiful, clever, athletic, or all of the above. Generations born of polygamy are more likely to be chosen as mates because they simply have better genes. I believe this is true even in the event that their upbringing was insufficient due to a lack of a father.

Monogamy allows for more men to reproduce sure, but then the quality of human genes is lowered. This is made even worse by arranged marriages where even the worst genes are allowed to pass on.

In a polygamous context, the best males reproduce so that as generations go on, the genetic stock is improved. I do not know the limit to this, but it's easy to imagine the percentage of attractive, desirable people would greatly increase. So in a way, this is the better solution as more people are born as attractive, and able.

The polygamous male to female ratio of reproduction is at its worst (smallest) when there are few attractive men and many average or unattractive males caused by monogamy being forced for too long. The male to female ratio of reproduction is at its best (closest to 1:1) when more people in a society are attractive, healthy, with good genetics. So in perfect fashion, nature almost selects for monogamy if played out perfectly. To prevent genetics from deteriorating over generations, I believe a primarily raw diet is important as is the avoidance of unnatural medicine most notably vaccines which are especially potent at corrupting genetics.


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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Vice article featuring Me
« Last post by sabertooth on January 29, 2024, 02:10:26 am »
I’m still raising the 4 children that are now teenager, my current war with the state has put on hold any thoughts of expanding the tribe; its still a possibility I may end up in prison depending on how things go; but I’m not going to back down without a fight.

Will be talking with Weston Rowe next week, he and his wife just had their first baby and they are planning on raising him naturally . I’d like our conversation to encourage others who are into this lifestyle to start families of their own.
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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Vice article featuring Me
« Last post by goodsamaritan on January 21, 2024, 10:32:38 pm »
I’m just playing the long game; living in a kafkaesque absurdity.
Trial may happen later this year. Trying to keep a low profile, asi gather my legions and prepare to take the state by surprise.

My latest interview to prove I’m still among the living
https://youtu.be/uLMOX6t-H3Y?si=bk2zUMYsdtw5vdKI


Truly enjoyed your talk! You rock!

Wisdom nuggets galore.
Loved the NWO / WEF awareness... take away people's meat... dumb em down, make em weak.

YouTube censored some parts you said, will look it up in Rumble.

Here is your uncensored interview on Rumble:
https://rumble.com/v47dar3-ep-1-derek-nance-tribalism-cancel-culture-meat-censorship-medical-and-scien.html
(YT did not like your talk about VACCINES around 32+ minute mark. 
You talked about the PLANDEMIC of the fake Spanish Flu.
I had a great grand mother who told her grand children that they survived the Spanish Flu because they refused the vaccine.)

Interview got cut short because you were going on a DATE!
Curious where you are at at male-female relationships philosophy by now?

We are all maturing MEN and fathers at the same time.
Have you added kids since your first 4?
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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Vice article featuring Me
« Last post by sabertooth on January 18, 2024, 07:17:34 am »
I’m just playing the long game; living in a kafkaesque absurdity.
Trial may happen later this year. Trying to keep a low profile, asi gather my legions and prepare to take the state by surprise.

My latest interview to prove I’m still among the living
https://youtu.be/uLMOX6t-H3Y?si=bk2zUMYsdtw5vdKI
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Info / News Items / Announcements / Re: Vice article featuring Me
« Last post by dariorpl on December 27, 2023, 07:15:44 pm »
What ever happened in st's trial? Did it continue? Were all charges dismissed?
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General Discussion / Re: Meat Sources
« Last post by Azoth128 on December 05, 2023, 04:51:01 am »
Anyone from Germany who can recommend something for organs?

Sadly, everything I've tried so far tastes bitter.

I'm still sticking to muscle meat, hopefully I'm getting some wild organs soon.
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General Discussion / Re: Any experience with High Fish?
« Last post by FRANCIS HOWARD BOND on November 28, 2023, 03:21:24 am »
Am experimenting with fish bought beyond its "sell by" date and find this will mature more readily and in a shorter time.    Seems pointless to buy high priced fresh fish as "sell by" costs a lot less and rots satisfactorily to produce a nice texture and taste fairly quickly.    Have not yet tried keeping it for a few months as it tastes good and I keep on eating it.    If you can get some cheaply long after its "sell by" date it should be even better (and cheaper?).
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Off Topic / Re: 8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man
« Last post by dariorpl on November 25, 2023, 11:07:53 pm »
Where is this mythical Monogamous society you speak of?

There are none.

Did you understand what the study said?

From the older times of 1 to 17, to:

"In more recent history, as a global average, about four or five women reproduced for every one man."

Laws were made to push monogamy, but...

Humans do not reproduce monogamously... the genetic studies do not show it.  Genetic statistics show humans to be polygamous.

All of western european, Most eastern european, as well as Chinese and Japanese societies, were all founded on the basis of the monogamous nuclear family structure. The same was the case for all of the overseas colonies that became successful. Of the major religions, only one condones polygamy, and it's precisely the one which is most prevalent in countries that became underdeveloped for many centuries, until recent events turned the tides for only some of them. There would simply be no modern science, technology, and there would only be scarce writing and communication without monogamy. World population would be at most 10% of what it is today.

In the civilized world, everything that is good derives from private property, which relies on monogamous nuclear family structures to function.

Over the past century, and particularly over the past 50 years, the world, and the west in particular, is experiencing a process of de-civilization. That is why you see monogamy being eroded more and more, just as health and everything else is being degraded, polluted, corrupted and destroyed.

Whether paleo people lived monogamously or not is irrelevant, because we don't live in that world anymore. There are good reasons why things changed once we started to develop civilization. The paleo health experience is about undestanding what made them healthy, but a healthy body, and a healthy society, can be very different things at different times.

Today, polygamy only generates war, sickness, poverty, death and despair. With the very real possibility that it could end all human life as we know it. It's one of the main driving forces of the most dangerous thing for humanity. With great power, comes great responsibility. Paleo people were not powerful. Civilized people are. Different times, different needs.
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Off Topic / Re: 8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man
« Last post by goodsamaritan on November 22, 2023, 05:18:27 pm »
You are forgetting that reproduction in a human society is not simply about having the best genes, but having the best environment to raise your kids in. If 10 women all have babies with the same man, who is going to provide, help feed, clothe, teach, raise their kids? They either have to do it all by themselves, or they have to find another man who will do this for them while neglecting his own biological prerogative to reproduce, or they have to rely on a state apparatus that steals from men who don't reproduce, in order to give to the babies of those men that do.

In either of all these examples, the quality of the childraising will be much poorer than in a stable, traditional, nuclear family structure. If the woman has to provide for her children all by herself, she is much more likely to be poor and to not have the time to properly teach and raise her children. If she relies on a beta male to help do this but not reproduce, he's more likely to be resentful and mistreat the children, or simply be incompetent and do a poor job at raising them. If she relies on the State... Well, the State wants something in return, and what they want is to turn her children into state worshipping zombies.

Furthermore, the genes that are "best" under a situation of widespread monogamy, are different to those that are best under a situation of widespread polygamy. For example, a woman who only sees men as a sperm bank, may not be interested in the man's capacity for love, bonding, teaching, caring, protecting, or providing. She will simply look for biological markers of sexual attraction, which, interestingly enough, may not even signal good health or chance of survival.

Finally, you are forgetting about what happens to all of the men who can't find a mate in your polygamous society. They will be much more likely to be violently aggressive, to generate chaos in general.They simply have much less to lose than a man who has a stable mate that is bonded to him for life. This also affects women, who will feel lonely and in despair when they're all alone with their children and no man wants to stay with them for more than a night or two of mating, and this will impair the woman's ability to nurture and care for her children, also. But the effect is clearly much worse for males, which also have a greater capacity for harming others in the society, and not just their own families.

A society such as this is much worse for everybody, for the women, for the men at the top, for those at the bottom, and especially for the children and future generations. It's not an accident that, like I mentioned in my previous post, all societies that became prosperous did so by introducing monogamy and nuclear family structures, and the extent to which they became prosperous is directly proportional to the extent to which the society was able to achieve a widespread and faithful implementation of this model.

Where is this mythical Monogamous society you speak of?

There are none.

Did you understand what the study said?

From the older times of 1 to 17, to:

"In more recent history, as a global average, about four or five women reproduced for every one man."

Laws were made to push monogamy, but...

Humans do not reproduce monogamously... the genetic studies do not show it.  Genetic statistics show humans to be polygamous.


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