food poisoning from chicken

[TylerDurden]

Thanks, Eveheart, I had been told previously that "pastured" really did mean primarily grassfed with no or hardly any grains.

[Brad462]

Eating poultry can be risky - cooked or raw.  The only time in my life that I have gotten food poisoning was from inproperly prepared (cooked)poultry on thanksgiving day.  Kind of a lame story I guess...

[eveheart]

Thanks, Eveheart, I had been told previously that "pastured" really did mean primarily grassfed with no or hardly any grains.

Pastured should mean something that has to do with a pasture, but American capitalists make sure that the GDP is more important than doing what's right. Poultry business will look you in the eye and tell you that land prices are too high to raise chickens on it.

[reyyzl]

https://www.wewant2live.com/why-is-aajonus-so-concerned-about-toxicity-in-commercial-chickens-and-eggs/

In the back of the We Want to Live book there was always the list you could order of sources for all the food that aajonus checked out personally. It was regularly updated. Now that aajonus is gone, it might not be there. But you could ask Jim on the site.

I was scared trying poultry the first time. I got the best source i could. It was obviously grainfed though. I've eaten it many times since. The best tasting chicken is when you get it fresh slaughtered & it was raised in a pasture with the roosters. It can be given some feed, but make sure it's WAPF approved feed & that it has no soy. You'll taste the difference.

As for food poisoning, I know a couple people who say they've gotten detox from chicken. Myself, I've never gotten a loose stool or anything from raw chicken. Perhaps my body like campylobacteria & so does the rest of the people I know who eat it. Just ate a bunch of chicken high meat today. Maybe you need the bacteria, like some people do well on kefir but not milk. I've seen those who do great on high eggs, but not as well on fresh egg (raw all).

As for science, what do you think of the info in aajonus' 2002 book Recipes for Living without Disease?

[birdy]

so, just because a chicken is "pasture raised", that doesn't mean it isnt also being fed corn and soy?
damn, I hope I didnt get any serious bad bacteria. I ate semi-raw chicken twice the last few days and my stomach has been feeling a bit upset and I'm nauseous. I thought this was mainly because of the newly introduced raw foods and change to keto in general.

[Kaaris]

I might’ve contracted campylobacter inadvertently from eating raw chicken liver. Got one of those “pastured raised”, vegetarian fed chicken. It turns out the words “organic” soy feed and grains came up  when I went to the purveyor’s  website to check what they fed the chicken. Very upsetting. Always check your food sources, especially poultry. As far as eggs, the only ones I recommend are Eben-Haezar’s Happy Hens. They explicitly stamped on the package that their vhvicken weren’t fed neither soy nor grains.

[FRANCIS HOWARD BOND]

Back in 1991 had very severe upset after eating raw chicken and was very ill for several weeks.   Doctor diagnosed Yersina E Coli, which is very bad.   After antibiotics I recovered, and never had a problem so severe again.   Have eaten lots of raw chicken and raw turkey at Christmas and no problems at all.    This includes, presumably grain fed, chicken from the supermarket.    Glad I was able to force myself back to raw chicken as it has a distinct taste and is really great!    I think it is possible to develop a level of immunity through a bad experience, but would not want to wish this on anyone else.   Take care and enjoy yourself.

[birdy]

Any suggestions on how to consume organic chicken liver then? I've been trying to find out what they feed them - all I've come across is that they are pasure-raised and fed "high quality organic food".
I was planning to eat it raw but am unsure now. Would it be ok to just sear it on the outside or heat it lightly, or should I rather cook it completely? I've read somewhere that partial-cooking can be even worse?

[FRANCIS HOWARD BOND]

My understanding is that partial cooking can be like re-heating cooked food which we are definitely not encouraged to do.   Depending on the temperature achieved, any bacteria can flourish while the food remains largely uncooked.   Possibly chicken in particular needs cautious handling.

[PaganGoy]

Take my advice, don't cook the chicken you will only fuck yourself up 1#

2# make sure to get with at least a maximum soy diet percentage of only 35% the less soy the better.

Bacteria is NEVER the cause of disease however accelerated detoxification of cooked meat can occur if you half cook the chicken.
Just don't cook it, better yet don't cook anything.  Even inhaling something cooking causes cancerous tissue buildup.
The world elites don't cook food, why should you?

[common_sense]

Everyone is talking about how the chicken was fed, what was fed, but in my opinion, how the chicken was handled is far more important. I ate raw chicken for a while, but I only eat frozen, individually wrapped chicken breast. Never have any problem. It is the process of, the condition of produce, will determine the bacterial level.

[common_sense]

frozen, sorry for the typing.

[FRANCIS HOWARD BOND]

Agree cooking is responsible for many health problems with Chicken, and careless storage and meat handling conditions for many more.   Chickens need natural environment and appropriate feed, and failings here lead to poor quality, possible contamination, and disease.    This affects flavour and texture of the meat and can also lead to infection and physical illness after eating it.

All things considered, raw chicken can be exceptionally palatable, and should not be overlooked as an enjoyable treat.   Have eaten lots of raw chicken, also raw turkey, and no problems at all.    Liked high raw chicken, with its stronger flavour which improves the longer you keep it, gradually rotting quite tastily.   

[On a Quest, you want in?]

Take my advice, don't cook the chicken you will only fuck yourself up 1#

2# make sure to get with at least a maximum soy diet percentage of only 35% the less soy the better.

Bacteria is NEVER the cause of disease however accelerated detoxification of cooked meat can occur if you half cook the chicken.
Just don't cook it, better yet don't cook anything.  Even inhaling something cooking causes cancerous tissue buildup.
The world elites don't cook food, why should you?

I cook my family roast chicken, what's the problem specifically?

[FRANCIS HOWARD BOND]

Cooking will be the last part of handling Raw Chicken, and all stages need careful management.   There are many possibilities of not cooking sufficiently, not achieving the correct temperature, placing the Chicken at any time in contact with a risky environment, attempted re-heating, storing incorrectly, and even serving in a suitable condition.    As with any cooked food, care is needed.    This is also the case with raw food and freshness, quality, and purity may seem even more important.    High meat should not be attempted from cooked food,  however, using raw food it is achievable and enjoyable, and is a big difference between cooked and raw.