Raw milk

[B.Money]

Claravale has a pretty legit reason as to why they do this imo, cows in nature eat grass and when they would be naturally lactating grass would be full of grain seeds.  Now I'm not too sure on the validity of that but I have had 100% grass fed milk/butter/cheese and OP's stuff, I personally prefer the OP stuff.

Yes thats what I believe both of them have mentioned, I wonder if this would be considered natural diet then?

[KD]

I'm not a milk specialist but it honestly seems to me a typical type excuse that a farmer or supplier might say just to keep a customer or even to rationalize something to themselves. There is a pretty amorphous range of 'grass-fed'/finished and exactly what constitutes grass, but I don't think everyone should be concerned about their beef necessarily for this reason as I don't think its as widespread as your source says.

I had a seller at a farmers market have the audacity to tell me that all scallops were harvested and sold frozen, and there was nothing they could do about it, even tho every StopandShop on the coast sells them fresh from the boat.

I've only been to a few farms, but I have never seen or heard of evidence of the above. The one farm here I can actually get milk feeds the cows no grass or grains. its like 100% barn hay. I would probably prefer mostly pasture and a little corn grass myself, as I don't find what I can get very healthy.

[TylerDurden]

That scallops mention is appalling. It reminds me of a farmer who once assured me, years ago, that it was physically impossible to make raw butter and that it always had to be sold as pasteurised butter, despite past centuries in which only raw butter was available.

[reyyzl]

It reminds me of a farmer who once assured me, years ago, that it was physically impossible to make raw butter and that it always had to be sold as pasteurised butter, despite past centuries in which only raw butter was available.

Butter is easy to make from raw cream.  You don't have to heat it.  You may have to use objects made of different materials to process it though than pasteurized cream, or bare with the difference in taste from pasteurized.  Raw dairy fat absorbs things like odors from whatever it comes in contact with and also can dissolve some things.

[cliff]

I've only been to a few farms, but I have never seen or heard of evidence of the above. The one farm here I can actually get milk feeds the cows no grass or grains. its like 100% barn hay. I would probably prefer mostly pasture and a little corn grass myself, as I don't find what I can get very healthy.

Not saying it is legit because I have no idea but it really made me think.  Cows eat grass, which means sooner or later they will probably end up eating grass seeds, do the cows ignore the seeded grass??

[KD]

Not saying it is legit because I have no idea but it really made me think.  Cows eat grass, which means sooner or later they will probably end up eating grass seeds, do the cows ignore the seeded grass??

I'd assume not but I know that lettuce that has gone to seed is usually pretty undesirable to humans and some animals. Either way I think there would be a difference in eating grass seeds than to feeding corn grasses or full on grain seeds. It would be an issue of how natural the proportion as well I would think, especially if they are admitting it produces more milk or meat or something.

I personally too find much of this confusing, I mean some of the meat from WF is far leaner without an intramuscular fat than any 100% grass-fed supplier locally or reputable that I've come across, although some of the suppliers to my WF do claim to be 100% grain-free (some microgreen/hay etc...).