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Can you recommend some books?
« on: June 11, 2010, 02:16:59 pm »
Hi all! I'm super excited about this forum - I'm learning so much from everybody's sharing - so encouraging and inspiring - and I really really appreciate it.

I got interested in the Primal Diet when I found "Raw to Radiant" at my library - just researching raw diets/cookbooks. I was about to buy AV's second book (mostly for the recipes b/c I know it's going to take me awhile to transition), but after my online research (including on this forum), I decided that I want to go Omnivorous Raw Paleo to start. That's what feels right and doable for me at the moment. (I don't think I'm ready to get into juicing, but that may change in the future. I do love veggies...  -\)

So I was wondering which RPD books you think are the best. I'm more interested in info on transitioning and recipes/tips/menu ideas - not as much in lengthy explanations, as I don't need to be "sold" on the diet. I'm all ready to try it! Thank you!

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Re: Can you recommend some books?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2010, 03:53:18 pm »
I think the French have one written by Burger?
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Re: Can you recommend some books?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2010, 04:37:38 pm »
Other than the Burger book "The War of Raw", there really isn't a genuine rawpalaeo book. Have a look in the culinary creations forum for some recipes, but I should mention that most of us RPDers end up in the long-term eating the foods plain and usually separate from each other(ie raw meats at one meal, raw fruits or raw veggies some hours later etc.)

Just experiment with adding in raw spices and the like, at first, maybe add some raw herbs etc.

Here's some standard info re transitioning to rawpalaeo:-

http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/important-info-for-newbies/sticky-advice-for-newbies-wishing-to-slowly-ease-into-a-raw-animal-food-diet/
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Re: Can you recommend some books?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2010, 11:38:55 am »
Hey Tyler,

It's probably the right time to write books.

Yours could be RPD in London.

Mine could be RPD in Manila.

And of course other people from their respective countries.

Cinna, I consider Tyler my mentor / teacher. Bow.  He started all this online stuff with the yahoo groups, all-experts, the website and the forum.
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Re: Can you recommend some books?
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2010, 01:02:54 pm »
I reccommend the book "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon. Transition by gradually ignoring the grain and bean recipes and info. A lot of good information here.

Also read "Pottinger's Cats". It illustrates the immense importance of evolutionary adapted nutrition.
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Re: Can you recommend some books?
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2010, 03:44:31 pm »
What about the book "Instinctive Nutrition" written by Severen L. Schaeffer?

http://www.amazon.com/Instinctive-Nutrition-Severen-L-Schaeffer/dp/0890875022

Has anybody read it?

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Re: Can you recommend some books?
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2010, 04:05:04 pm »
I think the French have one written by Burger?
It's been translated in English by an anonymous unknown person and is freely available online here:
http://www.reocities.com/HotSprings/7627/ggindex.html
Already mentioned, but I think I mistakenly stated that it's the fist edition - I think it's the second edition called "Manger vrai":
http://www.rawpaleoforum.com/instinctoanopsology/instincto-books/msg14166/#msg14166
I don't know if the translation is good since I did read it in French. I also did read some parts of S.Scheaffer book mentioned by Susan: I think I had found it somewhere online too.
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Re: Can you recommend some books?
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2010, 10:06:29 am »
I've been reading some of Burger's work from the first link you posted, Iguana. What about instincts and the smell of gasoline? Surely sniffing gasoline is bad for the health but why does instinct tell us to keep smelling it?

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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2010, 05:57:25 pm »
It doesn't to me...

An idea though: The gasoline is toxic, but you keep exposing yourself to it, so the body makes some specialised way of getting rid of it. But the mechanism which is getting rid of it craves it, as it's purpose is to get rid of it, so the things which like to get rid of it, make you crave it so it can do its job.

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Re: Can you recommend some books?
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2010, 06:32:10 pm »
I've been reading some of Burger's work from the first link you posted, Iguana. What about instincts and the smell of gasoline? Surely sniffing gasoline is bad for the health but why does instinct tell us to keep smelling it?

Is gasoline paleo ? If you had read a little more you would have understood that the main point of  Burger’s findings is that our instincts are not adapted to things such as cooked food, wheat, cheese and gasoline because they appeared too recently in the evolutionary history of our lineage for an adaptation to take place .
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Re: Can you recommend some books?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 07:26:34 am »
If Instinctotherapy is only eating what tastes and smells good in the moment, how do you know what to get when grocery shopping?

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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 02:40:04 pm »
I do my shopping almost every day. Besides that, I don't see what the point is anyway..? You don't need to have an infinite choice... You can eat instinctively from whatever you have available.
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2010, 04:53:23 pm »
If Instinctotherapy is only eating what tastes and smells good in the moment, how do you know what to get when grocery shopping?

“The moment” doesn’t mean it changes every hour, usually not even everyday – except just after you have filled up with a particular stuff. For example, tuna fish smells good and thus you eat a lot of it till you have enough. Its smell will then leave you indifferent or even repeal you for some time, until eating more will be beneficial. It may be the next day or perhaps the day after, so you can leave the rest in your fridge or even dry it in the air flow of fan (or in the wind /sun) to keep it for a while.  

It’s he same for every foodstuff. After practicing for a few weeks, you know roughly what you actually like and what you can buy or order without smelling it – which remains possible at markets anyway as long as the food is not hermetically packaged. Taste changes overtime, but usually not overnight. At the start, 24 years ago, I liked most fish species very much. Now there remains only a few fish species of temperate seas that I like (I still like most tropical fish). I generally prefer meat, shellfish or eggs.    

I do my shopping almost every day. Besides that, I don't see what the point is anyway..? You don't need to have an infinite choice... You can eat instinctively from whatever you have available.

Sure. Shopping twice a week is enough for me; I can even live with once a week and survive much longer. I have at home a lot of wild boar and moufflon in a fridge, two different kinds of clams, dates and a few vegetables in another fridge, chestnuts, walnuts, macadamia, hazelnuts and a lot of apples from my orchard in the basement, persimmons from my orchard as well and a few avocados, tomatoes, pears and bananas that I bought yesterday. Also a big can of honey plus a lot of figs and prunes I dried myself at less than 40°C instead of let it be wasted. That’s about all.  
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