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How much do you earn?

less than 20,000 dollars a year
9 (60%)
between 20,000 to 40,000 dollars a year
3 (20%)
40,000 to 60,000 dollars a year
2 (13.3%)
60,000 to 100,000 dollars a year
0 (0%)
100,000 to 500,000 dollars a year
0 (0%)
500,000 dollars plus
1 (6.7%)

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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2011, 04:59:57 am »
Actually I wouldn't advise anyone to go into MLM. That's for gullible fools.

Instead do what intelligent entrepreneurs do. Build your own business providing a service or product that people value.

That's how you get rich. Be on the lookout for opportunity. Then dive and don't look back.

Ignore the naysayers. Have compassion towards them, they have it hard.

Good luck!



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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2011, 05:14:10 am »
I'm not necessarily a naysayer about your message, just the extreme position you've chosen and offensive language of blame for people's situations.

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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2011, 05:31:15 am »
Actually I wouldn't advise anyone to go into MLM. That's for gullible fools.

Instead do what intelligent entrepreneurs do. Build your own business providing a service or product that people value.

That's how you get rich. Be on the lookout for opportunity. Then dive and don't look back.

Ignore the naysayers. Have compassion towards them, they have it hard.

Good luck!





What about talents like artists athlets musicians ? can this bring good income?

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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2011, 07:26:01 am »
Actually I wouldn't advise anyone to go into MLM. That's for gullible fools.

Instead do what intelligent entrepreneurs do. Build your own business providing a service or product that people value.

That's how you get rich. Be on the lookout for opportunity. Then dive and don't look back.

Ignore the naysayers. Have compassion towards them, they have it hard.

Good luck!





Your advice sounds helpful to me, if one is interested in wealth.  But not everyone is interested in wealth.

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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2011, 07:59:34 am »
I would rather be sitting on 2 million dollar house earning 20 grand a year.
  That would be foolish as, if you, for example, needed money to expand your business or get a loan to pay for education etc., and then defaulted on your loan, your house would be sold by the bank for much less than it would otherwise. if your house got wiped out by an earthquake or tsunami etc., you would be left with nothing and so on.
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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2011, 10:21:02 am »
  That would be foolish as, if you, for example, needed money to expand your business or get a loan to pay for education etc., and then defaulted on your loan, your house would be sold by the bank for much less than it would otherwise. if your house got wiped out by an earthquake or tsunami etc., you would be left with nothing and so on.

Yeah..makes sense...

So many different types of wealthy people, some I definitely would not swap shoes with even for all their money.

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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2011, 04:15:48 pm »
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What about talents like artists athlets musicians ? can this bring good income?

very. If you are good at branding yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3D-ztXZ9QU
*)Local talent who came out of nowhere with this track and scored a 10 million dollar contract.


*)This Hog shit sells for 10-100.000's depending on frame size. Hornsleth is a marketing genius.


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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2011, 04:22:42 pm »
Instead do what intelligent entrepreneurs do. 

People like Trump and those other mafioso whom you recommended people to learn from?

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You reek of MLM/telemarketing entrepreneurship,the way you talk, the way you want to think and the mentality you promote is unhealthy and the core reason for our constant financial turmoil. The idea that "naysayers" are so because they are poor/have it hard is ignorant at best. You talk a big talk ...anonymous internetboy.






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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2011, 12:24:32 am »
You talk a big talk ...anonymous internetboy

Wow - brutal. Hahaha!!!

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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2011, 12:32:39 am »
What about talents like artists athlets musicians ? can this bring good income?

I'll let you know. I'm a self-employed musician and, well...more below.

I don't share his vision in terms of "wage slaves" and the ignorant masses and "entitlement". However, some of the other things he says are salient & timely (one has to have intent, focus, goals, and intensity).

I am not rich, but I do well enough to make my house payment & feed my family....and a bit more. However, I personally set some creative AND financial goals for 2011 (including increasing my income by at least 50%) and posted them on-line. Money where my mouth is and all that. In 9 more months, we'll see where I succeed AND where I fail.

For anyone interested in watching me succeed or crash in the process (hahaha!)...or in coming along for the ride:

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« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2011, 01:21:53 am »
In a universe that seems to be more pliable than conventional thought might have us believe, there is no harm in intent and visualization. Even if there is no universe 'conspiring on your behalf' (there probably really is though) then those intentions and visualizations at least help you to focus on the end goal.

I was listening to the audiobook 'infinite possibilities' by Mike Dooley which I think is very much like 'the secret' of which I have not read, and he said something that stood out to me. This is paraphrased because I don't have the actual book....

{Either money is good and you want more of it, or money is bad and you want to avoid it} If you're thinking money is the root of all evil then guess what, you're probably not going to be inclined to get more of it than you need to live. If you think money is good and you can do things you like with it then you will probably try to get more of it.

In that sense people do want to be rich or want to be poor. I agree that money is often connected with bad ideas, bad actions and bad people, but the reality is that most of us have, however tacitly, agreed to live in a 'civilized' fashion where we buy things instead of making or raising them ourselves. As such we must as well dive in head long, at least until the eventual collapse, when we revert to feral behavior. I have begun to do intentioned visualizations each day because you know what? It really can't harm anything right and frankly it is limiting to deny something that we don't really know is true or not, and is maybe unprovable.

Also what AH said about your self image is mega ultra important. You are to a great extent what you choose to be. Most of us walk around as packaged identities unconsciously agreeing to view others as their packaged identities as long as they agree to view us as what we think we are. So make yourself whatever you want to be.

The naysayers here are the people who claim flight, or space travel is impossible. The people like AH are the people who invented flight and space travel. Pick which one you'd like to be. Whatever else their faults, they at least made it happen!


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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2011, 04:53:37 am »
I'd like to hear about what Action Hero has done, but he will disappear now I suppose.
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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2011, 05:16:49 am »
I'll let you know. I'm a self-employed musician and, well...more below.

I don't share his vision in terms of "wage slaves" and the ignorant masses and "entitlement". However, some of the other things he says are salient & timely (one has to have intent, focus, goals, and intensity).

I am not rich, but I do well enough to make my house payment & feed my family....and a bit more. However, I personally set some creative AND financial goals for 2011 (including increasing my income by at least 50%) and posted them on-line. Money where my mouth is and all that. In 9 more months, we'll see where I succeed AND where I fail.

For anyone interested in watching me succeed or crash in the process (hahaha!)...or in coming along for the ride:

http://skinnydevilmusic.blogspot.com/2011/02/sdml-creative-biz-goals-for-2011.html


Good luck with your goals my friend I checked your internet website with your music I think its very good!

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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2011, 08:13:09 pm »
Wow - brutal. Hahaha!!!

I am sick and tired of these entitlement issues that pose as creative force. There is no disagreement that focus on what you want to achieve is everything, and working out strategies before you do anything is the only way to succeed.

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The people who invented space flight were scientists who want to do space flight. The mindset of these people in no way compare to gangsters like Trump and likes which AH touts as masters of his trade. Rather, their mindset often prevent the better technology from prevailing to ensure their comfortable lifestyle at the expensive of the collective. A local example is that of wind energy. We can make insanely efficient small windmills that could easily power a farm and still provide excess. the most magnificent design was made by a farmer who now 15 years down the line are still fighting for the right to put it into production, but the rules and regulations keep changing because "the money" want to trade in large ineffective behemoth windmills because they have the potential to generate more income in the long term. It is the entitlement issues I am protesting against because if you are good at what you do, money will come around. If you are good at what you do and have a business plan/model, only genuinely bad luck, force majeure and the Donald trumps of the world can keep them away from you.


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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2011, 08:45:22 pm »
I don't see why you guys need to pick on Action Hero.
We are all here to share what we know.
We cannot assume nor judge what action hero does for a living.

We need a more welcoming attitude so people are encouraged to share what they know, whether it is health or wealth.

We're lucky we all now have health.  Having a lot of wealth with health is a pretty good combo.
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Re: Rawpaleo fortunes
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2011, 09:08:45 pm »
I don't see why you guys need to pick on Action Hero.
We are all here to share what we know

Good point...however, I think actionhero (he did make several excellent points himself) invites certain harsh critiques when he uses inflammatory language like "wage slaves" and "You'd rather stay in the fucking poorhouse" and such when such attitudes were unprovoked....

...with the focus on "unprovoked". We're all adults here and we all can get on the edge from time to time, but we generally require some provocation to turn the sharp edge towards each other.

Brother also made an excellent point. Namely, the internet is full of folks posting anonymously who can make all manner of claims because others can't verify them. They can also speak in a manner they'd never use in face-time. Amazing how polite people get when face to face, even if they are rude on-line.

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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2011, 03:36:49 pm »
We cannot assume nor judge what action hero does for a living.

No but as SD pointed out. We can judge his choice of words, his attitude and the people he hold up high (show me your friends and I will tell you who you are). When people reccommend to start adopting the thinking of known gangsters who will stop at nothing to have the riches they feel entitled to. I protest. And I get angry because of the damage this mentality is causing everybody. GS i understand what you are saying, but I am not padding any backs to protect peoples feelings or the popularity of paleo, not when they are speaking shit and its obvious.

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There are many ways to generate wealth that doesnt require you to sell your soul. Also, how can wealth accumulation by an admirable goal in itself if you understand that the global financial system
is a racket. Ok, so you do what you can to get comfortable, but if you knowingly join a racket to gain from it you are a muppet all the same. Remember that law, justice and "whats right" are entirely different things and do not connect in our system. Just because something has been made legal doesnt mean it is 'right'.

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even if they are rude on-line.

yeah atleat be consistent. I am rude crass all the time.  ;D
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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2011, 10:30:32 pm »
yeah atleat be consistent. I am rude crass all the time.

Hahahaa!!!!

I agree that financial institutions can be gamed and are constantly being manipulated by the rich & powerful. However, I disagree that they were set up as a racket (well, depending on the scope of the statement).

Money in and of itself is a good thing. Makes trade easier between individuals.

The monetary system...not so good. Financial institutions started as a good thing, but for the most part suck.

Personally, I don't seek to engage IN the system so much as I seek to have enough money to get shit done: Take care of my family, create a wealth-based safety net for the future, & enough to actualize plans. Of course, that's probably what robber barons said, too.
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« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2011, 11:59:50 pm »
I admit I am dead curious as to who chose the option for "earning 500,000 dollars or more a year". I am 90 percent certain that it was just meant as a joke. On the other hand, it is well-known that the rich are far more likely to go in for higher-quality diets than the less well-off. Well, no matter - if that was genuine, then I can fully understand why that person would want to remain anonymous, given the threat of receiving masses of begging-letters etc.
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« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2011, 02:52:31 am »
$500 000 isn't that much plus after tax, if you a wage slave in Australia makes it only $300 150. Ouch but I'd take it.

Most multi millionaires I know, you wouldn't even know it anyway, they drive around in crap cars, have houses which really aren't extravagant.

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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2011, 09:10:08 pm »
I don't see $500,000 in my immediate future, but some goals are coming within striking distance.

Of course, for the self-employed it's always about diversifying the revenue streams and creating passive income.
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