I'm doing a radio interview tonight about high meat....

[cherimoya_kid]

...with Radio New Zealand's "This Way Up" show. 


Here is a link to their website

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thiswayup/about

What do you folks think?

[TylerDurden]

How did this happen? Can you give me the GMT time when this  interview will happen? Or at least afterwards provide a link to the resulting recording on that website?

Why is there only a focus on "high-meat", not fresh, raw meat? Whatever the case, stress the number of years you've eaten the stuff without issues and the fact that the Inuit etc. have eaten "high-meat" for millenia without issues.

[TylerDurden]

Forget it, I just read when the radio show is on, but listening to the interview on Mac looks very complicated. Just tell us what the outcome was after  the Saturday interview.

[Alive]

@CK - exciting news, I am looking forward to hearing your interview this Saturday. Simon Morton is an excellent interviewer and his show This Way Up is very sensible so I am sure they will treat you well. How did they find out about you?

[cherimoya_kid]

How did this happen? Can you give me the GMT time when this  interview will happen? Or at least afterwards provide a link to the resulting recording on that website?

Why is there only a focus on "high-meat", not fresh, raw meat? Whatever the case, stress the number of years you've eaten the stuff without issues and the fact that the Inuit etc. have eaten "high-meat" for millenia without issues.

Someone did an interview with me for a magazine that somehow ended up in Harper's magazine or something. That's how the Radio NZ people found out about it.  I think the show airs on Saturday afternoons, I don't know which Saturday they will air my interview. 

[cherimoya_kid]

@CK - exciting news, I am looking forward to hearing your interview this Saturday. Simon Morton is an excellent interviewer and his show This Way Up is very sensible so I am sure they will treat you well.

Good, I'm glad.  I was a little concerned, since TylerDurden had mentioned that he got a very biased interviewer one time who tried to make him look bad.

[Alive]

@Cherimoya Kid - You are going to have fun 
Simon Morton is a cool dude and he will really want to hear your story and present it to people as truthfully as he can. Imagine the BBC but dressing down to wear Flip Flops (or jandals as they are called over here)

Here is Simon at Radio NZ interviewing Jeff Leach about how we should all eat more dirt:
Eat Dirt!
Eat more dirt! That's what Jeff Leach wants us to do. He's an archaeologist and science writer who reckons that a dearth of good bacteria in our guts is contributing to autoimmune disorders.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thiswayup/audio/2523451/eat-dirt.asx
www.paleobioticslab.com

I emailed Simon to point out that these bugs would be adapted to a raw paleo diet:

30 Jun 2012
Dear Simon,
Regarding your interview with Jeff Leech about the human microbe populations relation to health, all of our animal ancestors have for millions of years fed themselves on raw animal and vegetable foods and our symbiotic microbes have evolved to thrive on these foods.

For over 99.9% of our evolutionary history we have consumed raw wild foods.
To maximise their populations these microbes have co-evolved symbiotically with animals and humans - the more healthy hosts that are available then the more microbes there will be  (win/win).
Heating food creates massive physical changes to the food, including novel chemical breakdown/recombination/oxidation etc products that have been rarely encountered by our ancestors before the widespread adoption of cooking became culturally important.

For this reason Jeff needs to extend his research to include raw paleo eaters - see www.rawpaleodietforum.com for more information.

Also regarding the fermented yogurt culture, raw paleo extends this animal product fermentation to include fermented meat and offal. I have tried fermented meat and it was very interesting, with a stong smell like old camembert.Many people have reported that fermented meats have helped them recover from depression, which is likely related to the beneficial microbes in the high meat. As reported in new scientist recently microbes (in their case ones from soil) produce serotonin and improve mental health.

Raw regards
Mike

Simon kindly replied:

ThisWayUp ThisWayUp@radionz.co.nz
3 Jul
Hi Mike and thanks for the email which I forwarded to Jeff.
 Thanks for getting in touch and for listening.
 
Cheerio
Simon
 
This Way Up on Saturday 12-2pm.
Slices of life for curious minds.

Jeff replied:

Jeff Leach jeff@paleobioticslab.com 30 Jun
Hey Mike - Thanks for the email. Interesting stuff. No doubt big chunk of our diet has been eaten raw throughout history, but cooking sprinkled in there as well. As for as the gut bugs go, the less cooking to more nutrients end up in the colon where the bacteria ferment them - however, reduced cooking also makes them less available for fermentation as well (ie, they are passed in feces b4 they are broken down (at least completely). But you bring up a great point. I will look into this further and the link you sent.
Jeff

[cherimoya_kid]

Well, I just finished the interview.  It was a bit shorter than I expected, only about 15 or 20 minutes, but I think we hit most of the major high points.  He's pretty knowledgeable about food, much more so than I was hoping for.

I find it entertaining and odd that a diet that had me shunned/mocked several years ago now has me being interviewed on a radio program.  I chalk it up to two things

1. The diet really works, and people are starting to realize that--it not only works from a common sense POV, a logical POV, and a scientific POV, but also from a personal experience POV, and people find the confluence of all those hard to ignore, maybe.

2. I have tremendous, quiet confidence in myself and my diet, and my quiet confidence tends to convince people.  My confidence stems from how well I've seen it work for people, including me.  It also comes from the "robustifying"  effect that this diet has on people.

I'm really in love with the "robustifying" effect of the diet.  It's one of my favorite aspects.  It makes you clean AND strong AND confident.