Iodine and calcium

[LePatron7]

Hey everyone. I plan to be fully RPD by the end of January. I have a few questions though regarding certain nutrients that I think my specific carbohydrate version of the diet will be lacking.

Iodine, good sources are seaweed, and salt with added iodine. However I want to avoid both, being seaweed isn't SCD legal, and salt with iodine usually has added impurities. Does anyone know of some good RPD sources that I can make a regular part of my diet?

I know I've posted on calcium before, but again I'm a little concerned that my dairy free RPDiet is very low in calcium. Are there any of you that take calcium supplements? Or are there foods high in calcium you eat regularly? Have any of you been eating RPD without any calcium supplements and/or calcium rich foods?

Are there any other nutrients I might be missing? I think I am a little (orthorexic) obsessed with my diet, like Tyler pointed out. I mean... I make sure all my supplements are SCD legal, when I eat all raw, I don't cheat. And I have my diet mapped out to the tee of exactly which foods I'd be eating for the week, excluding fruits and veggies. Lol

[cherimoya_kid]

I use bone meal from time to time, if my teeth get sensitive.

As far as iodine, eating a variety of wild-caught seafood should be sufficient. Cod seems to have a lot, and tuna also has a good amount.  I can't find any data on oysters, clams, or mussels, but they might have a lot too.

[bookittyrun]

looks like shellfish contain iodine.  as do eggs, and obviously, multivitamins.  if you are considering a supplement for the calcium, get one that includes iodine, too. 

it's been my understanding, that iodine was added to table salt as a means of providing it to the general masses, those whose diet may not be all inclusive.  you may find you get an ample amount through your well-rounded raw diet.  why not grind / file those shellfish shells for a calcium additive to your diet?  nah, that's a lot of work... 

i apologize to everyone for pasting this crap here...
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/living-well-usn/articles/2012/03/14/5-non-dairy-foods-with-calcium
but maybe it'll help?  just ignore the ads and crap, in between the info...

good luck!

[TylerDurden]

Fish and shellfish all have lots of iodine in them.

There was a Bantu study which showed that Bantu women on low-calcium diets had stronger bones than Western women on high-calcium(dairy-rich) diets. This page is all  about the dangers of excess calcium:-

http://www.4.waisays.com/ExcessiveCalcium.htm

[LePatron7]

Fish and shellfish all have lots of iodine in them.

There was a Bantu study which showed that Bantu women on low-calcium diets had stronger bones than Western women on high-calcium(dairy-rich) diets. This page is all  about the dangers of excess calcium:-

http://www.4.waisays.com/ExcessiveCalcium.htm

I remember you, or someone, posting a study showing that certain places consumed little calcium, and were better of than places that consumed a lot of calcium. But I don't think it was Wai diet related.

[LePatron7]

Actually now that I think about it, it was a study showing increased osteoporosis in western societies where women consumed more calcium rich foods. And less in places they consumed less calcium. I can't find it though.

[TylerDurden]

The Bantu study is here:-

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2466922/

The other study was only a review, not a full study, but I can't remember where I found it.

[raw-al]

Fish and shellfish all have lots of iodine in them.

There was a Bantu study which showed that Bantu women on low-calcium diets had stronger bones than Western women on high-calcium(dairy-rich) diets. This page is all  about the dangers of excess calcium:-

http://www.4.waisays.com/ExcessiveCalcium.htm

Sounds like the author started with a conclusion and worked back. It sounded a little too pat an answer. This does not make it accurate or inaccurate, just suspect.

For one thing I am assuming this refers to pasteurized (most likely) milk rather than raw milk. There is a massive difference.

It sounded like the author was only looking at milk as a factor. Other features of modernity were not examined.

[Joy2012]

What kind of raw paleo diet will contribute to strong bones?

[cherimoya_kid]

What kind of raw paleo diet will contribute to strong bones?

high-fat, low-carb, with plenty of vitamin D-rich foods. 

Resistance exercise, like weightlifting, is very good for strengthening bones.

Vitamin D from sunshine and supplement is also good.

[Joy2012]

Thanks, CK.

Why high fat? Why low carb?

[cherimoya_kid]

Thanks, CK.

Why high fat? Why low carb?

Carbs reduce the action of vitamin D, while fats increase it. 

[LePatron7]

What would you consider low fat and high carbohydrate?

I plan to have 3/5th calories from fat, 1/5 car bs, 1/5 protein. Is that considered high carb?

[Joy2012]

Carbs reduce the action of vitamin D, while fats increase it.

Thanks, CK.

Will taking more V-D supplement help if one eats high-carb?

[cherimoya_kid]

What would you consider low fat and high carbohydrate?

I plan to have 3/5th calories from fat, 1/5 car bs, 1/5 protein. Is that considered high carb?

I'd call that pretty high-fat.

[cherimoya_kid]

Thanks, CK.

Will taking more V-D supplement help if one eats high-carb?

Somewhat, yes. Not that much, but somewhat.

[Joy2012]

Thanks, CK.

I did a little research on the internet. Surely I found articles saying that V-D needs fat to be absorbed. On the other hand, I have not found a study/article that says V-D needs "high fat" for efficient absorption and I have not found an article on how high carb hinders the absorption of V-D.  Does anyone have such articles at hand?

[cherimoya_kid]

Thanks, CK.

I did a little research on the internet. Surely I found articles saying that V-D needs fat to be absorbed. On the other hand, I have not found a study/article that says V-D needs "high fat" for efficient absorption and I have not found an article on how high carb hinders the absorption of V-D.  Does anyone have such articles at hand?

it's not so much that "high-fat" makes it more absorbable than medium fat.  The problem is that there are many substances in carb-y foods that deactivate vitamin D. There are articles, if you want me to dig them up. 

[Joy2012]

The problem is that there are many substances in carb-y foods that deactivate vitamin D. There are articles, if you want me to dig them up.

When you have time, yes, please give me the links to those articles. Many thanks.