I'm lost on the raw paleo path

[Isthmus]

Okay here is a little rant or description of some issues I'm going through, some doubts and confusion about my diet and lifestyle and what kinds of choices I am making. It's a bit crazy and intense but it's where I am right now, and some feedback from this community would be great, because I value some of the opinions here. Here goes..

List of problems:
- Fatigue and tiredness
- Poor libido and some erection problems
- Urological problem: discomfort and burning in pelvic floor area. Over frequent need to urinate. - - - Can be slightly uncomfortable when urinating. Slow flow when urinating.
- Find it hard to empty bowels sometimes, and some discomfort in bowels.
- Depression and tension
- Diagnosed with Aplastic Anaemia / Myelodysplastic Syndrome which means: Blood cell counts (White, platelets, neutrophils, red blood cells) are low.

But they have been improving over last 2 years or so when I have been eating raw 'palaeo' with raw cheese and milk too diet. Though my cell counts are not perfect they are pretty good, and doctor I spoke to recently doesn't seem to think they account for some of the tiredness I feel.

Attemped solutions: meditating as much as I can. Doing my best to relax, and exercising without overdoing it too much. Trying to do more yoga/stretching too.

Diet wise I really don't have a clue. Ginger, Chilli, Dairy, and drinking more than a small amount of fluids in the day seem to make urological problem worse. But then sometimes I doubt if these foods are the culprits when I get symptoms when I've been 'good.'

I have cut out all dairy, but I don't see how I can eat enough calories. I have a fast metabolism and am naturally skinny. I put on weight but now I'm losing it. I lost nearly 10kg, and I've come to a point where I'm almost scared to eat anything because I'm worried it's going to make any of my symptoms worse. I find it hard to eat enough calories and feel weak sometimes when I'm not eating enough. I don't see how to eat enough calories on this diet without dairy etc.

I think I might be eating too much protein, too.

I am half considering giving raw palaeo diet up after so long at this point. It is all so confused. I am sort of trying zero carb atm, even a teaspoon of honey at the moment seems to make my throat feel a bit sore as i eat it, what's with that? Lots of raw fish, some oysters, raw beef.

I feel like it's a mental illness, being this obsessed by food. the way it restricts me, and occupies so much of my thoughts and energy. I feel like maybe fuck it, I should just relax about it and eat whatever.

This probably seems a little crazy, and that's probably because it is. So you are aware I am getting professional medical help for these issues too, but I wanted some opinion from some raw paleo people too.

Thanks

[LePatron7]

You didn't mention your diet very much. Could you give more detail on how you've been eating, drinking, supplements, etc?

[cherimoya_kid]

Is your meat grassfed and grass-finished?  is the fish wild-caught ocean fish?  is your food frozen?

[Haai]

Raw animal fat (suet, fat trimmings, bone marrow etc) provides a lot of calories. Cutting out all dairy was a good decision. Cut out chillies too.

[Isthmus]

Is your meat grassfed and grass-finished?  is the fish wild-caught ocean fish?  is your food frozen?

Generally yes, to grass fed and wild fish. Rarely eat frozen food. Also normally all organic fruit and veg from as good quality as I can find. Though sometimes I have to compromise, beef I don't 100% know source, farmed salmon sometimes, and non-organic fruit and veg when I am traveling or away from home I have to do what I can.

You didn't mention your diet very much. Could you give more detail on how you've been eating, drinking, supplements, etc?

No supplements. Drink only water when I'm thirsty. Occasional clean organic teas, though not often.
Eating fruit, lots of avocados, and watermelon recently. Also mango's I like. And berries like blueberries/strawberries/raspberries.
Go through phases of eating more or less/no vegetables like celery, carrots are main ones.

Then lots of wild alaskan salmon / tuna. And beef braising steak cuts are main beef, with some beef fat and occasional marrow bones. Occasional lamb liver though I'm not a fan and now and then a beef heart or lamb hearts, though I have gone off them a bit and haven't had them for a while.

Thanks for your time and consideration

[LePatron7]

Drink only water when I'm thirsty.

You may want to drink more water (not tap).

Eating fruit, lots of avocados, and watermelon recently.

Then lots of wild alaskan salmon / tuna. And beef braising steak cuts are main beef, with some beef fat and occasional marrow bones.

You may want to experiment with decreasing your avocado consumption and increasing your beef fat consumption. Animal fats are generally much better than plant fats.

[van]

I think it's easy to eat too closely together fruits and meats (proteins)    Fruits will reduce substantially your ability to digest proteins.  Make sure you're really hungry before eating proteins.

[Isthmus]

http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/general-discussion/diet-coke-and-cooked-beef-burgers-are-the-cure/

If you see this other thread I created, you will see what lengths I just went to. I was persuaded into drinking diet coke and eating cooked beef burgers with loads of garlic. I'm trying to understand why I feel so much better already, whether it's placebo, or perhaps the garlic?

lol...

[Wai Kai Zen]

Thats crazy man  .
I dont know why thats working bro, but its definetly not raw paleo.

P.s. I cant send u a PM right now since I sent 5 messages this last hour already.
I will reply to your questions as soon as possible.

[Isthmus]

Thats crazy man  .
I dont know why thats working bro, but its definetly not raw paleo.

P.s. I cant send u a PM right now since I sent 5 messages this last hour already.
I will reply to your questions as soon as possible.

Sure

[Iguana]

I’ve been repeating it over and over again:

«Natural and human systems possess high dynamic complexity. (…) Effect is rarely proportional to cause. (…) Cause and effect are distant in space and time in complex systems while at the same time, there’s a tendency to look for causes near the events sought to be explained (…) the root-cause of the existence of the problem is not addressed (e.g. lack of upfront knowledge and resources, lack of understanding of system interactions and emergent systems properties). The complexity of systems overwhelms the ability to understand them. In many cases seemingly obvious solutions to problems fail or actually worsen a situation. (…) Time delays in feedback in systems result in the condition where the long-run response of a system to an action is often different from its short-run response.”
Ronald J. Ziegler, Complexity Reduction in Automotive Design and Development, University of Michigan, 2005, p. 34-36

Opioids, hallucinogenic substances, caffeine, theobromine, alcohol, etc. tend to make you feel great for a while, but in the long run the response is quite different.

Moreover, after decades of cooked and junk food, finally eating the food we are meant to eat will allow the body to expel damaged molecules it has retained because of a lack of similar but normal, undamaged ones. This is what we call “detoxination”: garbage is released into the lymph and blood in which it transits before being  finally expelled by the excretory organs. By eating junk and cooked food again, this elimination process is stopped because it no longer makes sense for the body to expel abnormal molecules since a constant overwhelming influx of such substances is coming again. Therefore we feel great… until severe troubles happen latter or much latter.   

[Iguana]

By reading your former posts on this thread, I see that  you're not sure about the source of your beef sometimes and that you eat sometimes farmed salmon and frozen-thawed food. As I often repeat, a train of 100 axles with only one axle derailed won't be able to reach 99% of its top speed. There is no linearity, no proportionality in cause and effect.

 Why can't you find enough calories? I don't understand. Nature offers so many different palatable foods! We have an incredible choice, from dates, plantains, figs, avocados, safus, various nuts, sweet potatoes, durians and vegetables to fish, oysters, various clams, crabs and lobsters, eggs, poultry, meats, organs... we probably lack insects and worms but that's partly because of a psychological blockage which might be overcome.