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Inspired by this article

foodandhealthblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/can-fruit-be-considered-primeval-food/
I started (again!) questioning my very "instincts" and this was what followed:

On a BASIC level,

Can we really get to our "primeval" instincts when we are surrounded by fake foods?
I mean, most of the foods we have available now did not exist "back then"or if they did, they are very much different in shape, taste, nutritional profile.
Therefore how can I fully apply instinctive eating into such a agricultural/confusing/sick present time?

and more PHYLOSOFICally..

Can we really get to "THE truth" when our thoughts are distorted by man made duality?

(I m starting to think dualism originated together with the neolithic era.
Not sure exactly why, but I have got this feeling.)
« Last Edit: September 08, 2013, 02:50:00 am by Aura »

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Re: Can Fruit be considered Primeval Food + How to tune with your Instinct
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2013, 03:31:52 am »
Hi Aura,

This has been extensively discussed, I think even by GCB himself somewhere in the Instincto section. It’s also addressed in his book http://www.reocities.com/HotSprings/7627/ggindex.html .

To answer shortly: lengthy and thorough experiments showed that the most wild the stuff is, the more precise is the instinctive regulation. The worst regulation is with cooked mixtures, aka cooking recipes, which are precisely designed to fool the instinct so that the food remains always tasty.

François
« Last Edit: September 08, 2013, 03:46:32 am by Iguana »
Cause and effect are distant in time and space in complex systems, while at the same time there’s a tendency to look for causes near the events sought to be explained. Time delays in feedback in systems result in the condition where the long-run response of a system to an action is often different from its short-run response. — Ronald J. Ziegler

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Re: Can Fruit be considered Primeval Food + How to tune with your Instinct
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2013, 04:12:22 am »

To answer shortly: lengthy and thorough experiments showed that the most wild the stuff is, the more precise is the instinctive regulation. The worst regulation is with cooked mixtures, aka cooking recipes, which are precisely designed to fool the instinct so that the food remains always tasty.

François

I think the opposite is true. We prefer cooked food over raw unmixed/unprocessed stuff because our instincts have been perverted.

My experience is that I am not attracted by wild fruits here. They are smaller, less coloured, more sour and full of seeds.
I prefer my sweet and juicy hybridized papayas to fleshy unsweet ones or big grafted mangoes to  smaller and stringy varieties.

My tastes are distorted after years of wrong foods and when I get to wild foods I do not like them.
I cannot trust my instinct at this time. I believe I need to take a step in between that is to push myself and reprogram them.

The straight assumption he does sound a bit too much philosophical for me, as if he never consistently ate a complete diet of wild foods. Didn´t he?
I honestly believe there is no way any of us would find  wild foods attractive from the beginning.
Exception made - of course - for wild foods we already got used to, like berries for example.


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Re: Can Fruit be considered Primeval Food + How to tune with your Instinct
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2013, 04:52:34 am »
I think the opposite is true. We prefer cooked food over raw unmixed/unprocessed stuff because our instincts have been perverted.
Completely wild animals also prefer cooked-mixed foods. Cooked-mixed foods are a trap in which animals and humans fall alike. That’s also why the cooking habit has quickly spread all over the planet and has been an irreversible trend.

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My experience is that I am not attracted by wild fruits here. They are smaller, less coloured, more sour and full of seeds.
I prefer my sweet and juicy hybridized papayas to fleshy unsweet ones or big grafted mangoes to  smaller and stringy varieties.
Yes, that’s it and it’s the same for everyone. We have to be aware of the fact that fruits, and cattle as well, have been selected during several thousands years to taste better and better. There are exceptions though. Sometimes wild fruits taste better than modern selected ones, especially after some time of practicing a raw-paleo-instinctive nutrition. Cempedaks, for example are wild or almost wild and were at first the better tasting fruit I ever ate. Yesterday, I found blackberries an absolute delight. It shifts somewhat once we have “filled the tank” for a while with some nutrients contained in a specific foodstuff.

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My tastes are distorted after years of wrong foods and when I get to wild foods I do not like them.
It can also often be due to an overload in some nutrient remaining from our “cooked and/or mixed days”.

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I cannot trust my instinct at this time. I believe I need to take a step in between that is to push myself and reprogram them.
It’s the same for everyone, even after decades of practice: beware of heavily selected meats (beef, pork, lamb) and fruits: stop a the earliest feeling of having soon enough, or even before. Prefer the wildest varieties and races you can find.

You’ll find answers to all these questions in http://www.reocities.com/HotSprings/7627/ggindex.html l

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The straight assumption he does sound a bit too much philosophical for me, as if he never consistently ate a complete diet of wild foods. Didn´t he?
Nobody could ever do that for years in our modern world, I think, except for a few days or weeks.

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I honestly believe there is no way any of us would find  wild foods attractive from the beginning. Exception made - of course - for wild foods we already got used to, like berries for example.
We all find wild foods attractive once we are sufficiently hungry. Of, course, if remaining in a constant state of overload maintained by the consumption of modern selected -mixed - seasoned - cooked foods, it will never happen.

François
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Cause and effect are distant in time and space in complex systems, while at the same time there’s a tendency to look for causes near the events sought to be explained. Time delays in feedback in systems result in the condition where the long-run response of a system to an action is often different from its short-run response. — Ronald J. Ziegler

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Re: Can Fruit be considered Primeval Food + How to tune with your Instinct
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2013, 05:59:49 am »
Now that I think about, fasting is an efficient way   to enhance senses.
Smell, taste, sight.
I think with this tool one could already trace a line on what is edible and whatis not.

I m going to read that website now.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2013, 06:19:03 am by TylerDurden »

 

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