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Offline theskierkid

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« on: January 01, 2010, 08:10:43 am »
I am doing a raw meat/egg diet to help with some of the symptoms I've had.
Symptoms include:
possibly low testosterone
low energy
not very good reactions to carbohydrates
possible adrenal fatigue
pale skin
loss of appetite other than for salt and sugar

I've eaten zero carb before but cooked my food and used a lot of salt. I think that was a bad idea now..
my favorite raw foods are raw egg yolks,

Anyway I am 25 years old and I grew up on  "healthy" diet of lots of whole grains ..
I think that table salt is a bad thing to add to your food, and that sodium can be derived from raw foods instead
As much as I have tried to eat grains I absolutely can't stand them. I like bread and potatoes but again only with salt or other flavoring.
the thought of oatmeal makes me want to puke, and if I eat too much I genuinely feel unwell.
The only benefit I've noticed with stuff like oatmeal and buckwheat is that they stabilize my blood sugar..but I am completely over eating them.

I guess the main reason I am trying this is pretty practical. Complex and simple carbohydrates give me a range of symptoms from feeling unwell to headaches depending on what the carbohydrates are. I think the main problem may be adrenal fatigue, and I've heard that carbohydrates only make this worse. I feel like I have to ingest lots of high quality fatty products that are rich in vitamins and minerals.

Thoughts and comments welcome..


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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2010, 06:38:10 pm »
My experience is the exact  opposite, that adrenal burnout, is made far worse by going ZC. There have been several claims on this forum, for example, that going ZC can put a heavy stress on the adrenals causing numerous side-effects.

1 of the commonest symptoms of failing adrenals is an increasing tendency with people on SAD diets to not be able to digest (cooked) animal foods properly(with side-effects such as constipation/stomach-pains etc.), with many eventually being  forced to go vegan. Fortunately, for me, I found that raw animal foods, by contrast, were fine to digest so I was able to cancel  my raw vegan experiment. In hindsight, if I'd diagnosed myself with adrenal burnout years ago, I would have noticed
that one of the commonest recommendations for sufferers is to go in for unprocessed foods, thus speeding up my eventual discovery of a rawpalaeodiet.

I should also point out that when I went ZC or VVLC for certain lengths of time, my ability to handle raw carbs such as fruit became heavily reduced. This wasn't due to the raw carbs being unhealthy as such, it was merely that my body had changed over to a different style of digestion(ie gut bacteria meant to digest only meat not fruit, different enzymes being used by the body etc.). When I went back to eating raw carbs, after a while my body was able to digest them with no problems/side-effects, after a period of adjustment.
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 10:56:29 am »
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possibly low testosterone
low energy
not very good reactions to carbohydrates
possible adrenal fatigue
pale skin
loss of appetite other than for salt and sugar
I had all your symptoms, except that my cravings for sugar and salt weren't my only ones (I also craved dairy products), though they were probably the strongest, and my appetite was low but not gone. In my case, going gluten free and later raw ZC/carnivore reduced all these symptoms--even pale skin (I burn less easily)--but Tyler and others have had bad reactions, as he mentioned, so I don't know what to make of it all. Back in 2005 I found connections between gluten/sugars/carbs and adrenal fatigue/adrenal insufficiency/Addison's. I hadn't heard of ZC aggravating adrenal fatigue until I encountered people's reports here just last year. Since then I have seen other people mention stressing of the adrenals on extremely low carb diets.

While not ZC, Tyler's self-reported recent carb intake range is actually low (5-35%) compared to the SAD (49-50%), so maybe the safest course for people with adrenal fatigue is first try LC to VLC rather than ZC or moderate-to-high carb. Some people suggest this here: http://www.livinlowcarbdiscussion.com/showthread.php?tid=2955

The answers aren't very clear and I don't tell other people what to do anyway, so maybe you'll have to find out what works best for you and get your health stats checked regularly to make sure things are going well.
« Last Edit: January 02, 2010, 11:36:07 am by PaleoPhil »
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