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When to eat.
« on: March 27, 2010, 08:26:47 am »
Ok..

I can have sport from 18:30-20:30, 20:30-22:00, 19:30-21:00 and other similar times. The earliest I may start is 18:30 and the latest I may finish is 22:00.

It seems to generally take about 6hours after eating to satiety for my digestive system to be comfortable with exertion.

When should I eat..?

At the moment I'm finishing my meal around 6hours before sport, and afterwards, sitting around feeling energy depleted and like I should eat for several hours afterwards until I feel tired enough to fall asleep.

Although I've felt like I should eat between finishing sport and falling asleep, when I've tried it I haven't actually enjoyed the taste of the food(although it has been satisfying, just not tasty). So either I take a small bite of raw meat/fat, and eat no more; or I eat until I feel satisfied, even though it didn't taste good. If I do the latter, I am satisfied, feel comfortable and can actually go to bed fairly easily, if I do it quickly. Not that long after eating I start getting a lot of energy. If I am up when these occur, I can not get to sleep for a while. If I have already been asleep, they can wake me with thirst throughout the night and I will sweat a lot, and I get acne spots too, and some of my muscles can feel shortened the next day. When I have eaten after sport, I have also had the meal earlier in the day.

If I don't eat between finishing sport and falling asleep, I will be up for quite a long time before I can nod off and I will spend it feeling unsettled, knowing that I could be settled by eating, though that there would be other consequences to bare, the knowledge of which leads me to abstain.

I feel that the ideal scenario would be to wake up, and do sport before having eaten, and to then eat when hungry and have the rest of the day to process the food, having plenty of stored/controlled, not uncontrollably active, energy to use as the body so wills during sleep. Though due to the time of my sport, to do this I would have to live at night and I don't think that is really plausible.

What do you think is the best solution for me?

N.B. There may be some +'ves & -'ves which I've missed out for different scenarios, which may tilt the balance of choice unevenly between different options. *shrug*.

Also, for the meal between sport and sleep, I have tried it both high protein/low fat and High fat/low protein in addition to balanced and neither seemed to work any better.

Thanks.
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Re: When to eat.
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2010, 09:13:47 am »
I dont have a specific ZC answer if that is what you are looking for

are you looking to eat a single meal in the evening?

from your time frame I don't see why you can't have a large meal in the early afternoon, and a light meal at night.

at the same time 6 hours seems not right for raw food, did you have this problem before on other diets? I don't care to do much within the half hour or hour or so, and probably not hop on a bike or run for another half hour or hour or so, and do prefer to work out before I've had any food, but I don't know what sport you are talking about. seems like a long margin though.

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Re: When to eat.
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2010, 09:43:31 am »
from your time frame I don't see why you can't have a large meal in the early afternoon, and a light meal at night.

I will try this again, having the meal in the early afternoon(as I do), but trying to make the meal at night just a very light one. It's hard to do though, to keep it light. I will try it though.

Basically this is what I was doing though("a large meal in the early afternoon, and a light meal at night"), but I don't remember what happened when I tried to make the meal very light, or how light I ever tried to make it. I think though that it still caused the negative effects... I will try it again though, still.

are you looking to eat a single meal in the evening?

No, I really don't think I could go the day without eating and then do sport. I think to do sport before eating I would have to do it in the early part of my day. I don't know though, I don't remember what my past experiences were with this. I think it would have all the negative effects I mentioned. I could not eat in the evening before sport because as I said it takes 6hrs for my digestive system to be completely comfortable with exercise after eating to satiety, and eating in the evening after it, I have the negative effects which I said about, and if it was my only meal it would have to be big.

I dont have a specific ZC answer if that is what you are looking for

It might be nice to hear the opinion of some ZC people, as that's what I am. However, opinions from anyone are very welcome, such as yourself. Thanks.

at the same time 6 hours seems not right for raw food, did you have this problem before on other diets? I don't care to do much within the half hour or hour or so, and probably not hop on a bike or run for another half hour or hour or so, and do prefer to work out before I've had any food, but I don't know what sport you are talking about. seems like a long margin though.

Um, I don't really see it as a problem, it feels quite natural to me... However, maybe it is a problem. In which case I expect it would improve with time eating meat/fat only. It really doesn't feel to me like a problem though... *shrug*.

The sport I am talking about it Judo. It would also apply to running, tennis, badminton, rugby etc though. I'm not sure about cycling as I don't do it.

Actually when I ate SAD with lots of grains, pre palaeo(~2years ago) I did have 'IBS' type symptoms towards the end, and that meant I had to sit around for a long time after eating without moving at all, and then had a short window to do sport before I would be out of energy. This never worked very well though and I'm not like this in any way now... I could get up straight after eating and go for a run. It'd be uncomfortable for a bit and then I guess it gets compacted or something and I'd be alright. Later on though my digestive system would be tired/uncomfortable for a while until it had recovered, and I would have some slightly watery phaeces. I don't see the point in eating and then doing exercise that stops me from digesting the food anyway, and tiring my digestive system out so I can eat less later as well. However, since I've not been eating late anyway I suppose this wouldn't really be a problem. My sport performance is decreased though if I have not given it the 6hours. If though, for example I were to finish eating 3hrs before sport, it may mean that I only need 3hrs after the sport for me to sleep as the digestion process is sort of 'put on hold', though not perfectly, hence the watery phaeces and mild discomfort later on too.

Damn I wrote a lot there, probably too much.





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Re: When to eat.
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2010, 11:24:46 am »
Why not experiment and see what works best for you?
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