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Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« on: July 03, 2010, 05:47:11 pm »
Just a theory but is it possible that homicides are committed because we no longer get to fulfill the instinct of killing animals?
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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 08:18:15 pm »
I don't agree with the concept.
Killing for food is different from homicides.

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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 09:21:47 pm »
Land? Slaves? Ritual sacrifices?
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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 09:58:28 pm »
Ritual sacrifices were done in empires... Land was only fought over when tribes grew in to empires... Slaves were only used in empires... These things are to do with civilisation...
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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 12:04:36 am »
Quote from: kurite on July 03, 2010, 05:47:11 pm
Just a theory but is it possible that homicides are committed because we no longer get to fulfill the instinct of killing animals?

What type of homicides? Under what circumstances?

Some of these homicides might, some might have nothing to do with it, unless you have a specific case or even a hypothetical case, it is impossible to answer that question.
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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 05:05:46 am »
We have an instinct to kill those who pose a threat to our family.

You would notice this instinct if someone raped your little niece.

Your rational mind would tell you to go to the police.

But your emotions want you to go and kill the raper.

Nothing to do with not killing animals.




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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 04:02:57 pm »
Warfare between humans(or between chimps even) is a very natural instinct, present even in palaeo times. Nothing to do with killing animals, IMO.
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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2010, 05:15:46 pm »
Homicides as serial killers commit them seem to stem more from mental and emotional instability usually caused by a poor upbringing, rather than any actual instinct to kill for food, especially seeing how most do not consume their victims.  I see this as a purely human condition, since animals in nature do not kill for no other reason than the pleasure of it like humans do.

As for humans having some innate instinct to kill, I did notice during my recent visit to Knott's Berry Farm, which allows chickens to roam free around the park, that pretty much every child and even some adults wanted to chase them.  It was most people's impulse to go after them, including my own, and that seems to me to show some sort of instinct to kill for food.
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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2010, 09:18:10 pm »
Many animals actually kill members of their own species for other reasons than food(lions and chimpanzees are classic examples)
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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2010, 10:53:34 pm »
I think society has conditioned us to think it is repulsive to kill for any reason, even for food. However, for the good of humanity, I dont think we have an innate desire to kill for no reason at all, except for food. Although, has anyone ever read anything by Plato? He postulated that people were born with a certain spirit which would make them either producers, warriors, or philosopher kings. The people who seem to be more aggressive and seemed that they could kill were the ones chosen to be warriors. I feel that people like cereal killers should be soldiers or something like in Platos time. It is possible that they need an outlet for their desires.
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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2010, 03:18:03 am »
Quote from: pioneer on July 30, 2010, 10:53:34 pm
I feel that people like cereal killers should be soldiers or something like in Platos time.

That's us, right..?
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Re: Do we have a natural instinct to kill?
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2010, 04:17:14 am »
yeah cause we kill cereal lol :D thats what we do. LMAO
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